Well there is mixed comments on this forum regularly about faction artifacts. Most non faction say the have to go, and have no place here. Most faction say they should stay (though there are those who speak against them). Now there was an interesting thread posted earlier which has prime examples as to the abuse, and unbalance these items bring into play. Now I cant quote since the thread is now locked, but im sure you can find it to double check the quotes for yourself if you think they are doctored. Sunchicken: I consistantly go out with a suit solo or group thats 50+ dci 40 lmc 10 mr 60+ 70 70 70 70 With the faction items its not hard for me to get nice suits and i have about 1.5 mill. Soul has multiple mills so i would think that anytime he went out his suit would be about the best suit that perticular template needs. Pwnography (from 2 seperate posts) Storm Grips 10 HCI 25 DI Talisman 10 HCI 20 DI Spirit of the totem 15 HCI 35 HCI 45 DI.... Ring: 10 HCI, LMC, 15-20 DI Bracelet: 10-15 DCI, LMC, 15-20 DI So now thats 45 HCI, say 80 Dmg Increase... Fey Legs, Quiver, Bracelet: 40-45 DCI RBC 15 LMC ring and Brace say 20-25 LMC.... Gorget: Mr2, LMC 5-8 Sleeves: Mr2 LMC 5-8 So that puts you at 35+ Lmc and 7 Mana Regen............... Pretty simple right......... orrr u can run the 4/6 Chiv template which i have you have anatomy/tactics as well with that u dont need much dmg to cap ur AI at 35........ so your moving shot doesnt do as much but who cares u dont need it to ur just running htem down while they cant heal much..... So you use RBC, Orny, Inquis, and Fc1 HCI ring....... 32 LMC right their.... 4/6 chiv... You get my point... its not hard to make the suit.. I do run that suit acutally.... i have been since i ran the character lol, I ran that suit when i was fighting tek outside of yew and he called 4 low in one was you.... and you looted that suit do you not recall LoL... Yes i'll still run it if no one buys the bow... I am just training my archers other melee skills and magery skills... So its not use currently... Now how does one not in factions compete with mods like these? Not very easily thats for sure. Also there are some in factions who cant build these suits, or not that close to the max mods like above. So really its quiet a stacked advantage to Factioners. Now albeit there is the risk of being orange everywhere to certain players. And the effects of 20 mins of stat/skill loss. Aside from stats, it would be harder to be a red, then a faction. hence why I guess so many reds just go faction.