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Primevil Lich And releasing Items? Is one ALWAYS released?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by weins201, Dec 11, 2010.

  1. weins201

    weins201 Certifiable
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    :sad3:

    I have been starting it a few times recently to do the lever quest but cannot find the released item so i am just woundering if there is ALWAY an item released?
     
  2. Cailleach

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    You have to bump the spawn to release an item, just starting it is not enough.
     
  3. weins201

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    In the past items were released when just started.

    I recieved levers, round skulls, brambles, fallen branches etc. Just from starting, I am asking if it always happens or is it just a chance?

    :scholar:
     
  4. Hoffs

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    Here are my observations about the spawn. Hopefully more experienced people can correct/add to this as appropriate:

    The various deco items appear in the spawn area at four different times:

    First stage - These items appear as soon as the spawn is started. They include some graves, the vats, the levers, the iron maiden and the pedestal.

    Second stage - These appear when the first red skull is added. They include the racks, the spikes, some runes and the small banana trees.

    Third stage - Appears when the second red candle of the second level is added. Includes the wall decoration, sparkles and soulforge.

    Final stage - These appear when the second red candle of the third level is added. Includes the large banana tree, pillory, ore cart, executioner's axe and the remaining runes.

    If you run through the spawn as normal, it seems that two items of deco are duplicated and can be taken away. However, when these items appear seems to vary with each spawn. So one spawn may produce a copy at the second and third stage, another may produce them at the first and fourth stage, etc. When an item spawns at the second, third or fourth level, you can get another item by allowing the spawn to regress and then working it back up again. However, if an item did not spawn at a particular stage then one will not spawn at that stage at any time until the spawn is restarted. For instance, if no item appeared at the second stage then it will not produce one there no matter how many times you work the spawn up and down.

    It would appear that the item that spawns can be any object which is currently available, not just the items that appeared at that level. So if an items spawns at, say, the third level, it could be any item from amongst the first, second or third level objects. Consequently, getting the higher stage objects is relatively rare.

    As a final note, it appears that on occasions you get a double spawn at a particular stage. As I have never had more than two items from a spawn (when working it normally), I would conclude that such a double spawn would preclude any more items from appearing during the rest of the spawn.

    There is obviously no way of farming the spawn at the first stage as these items only appears at the very start of the spawn. Farming the second stage objects is fairly easy, and can be done solo with something like a necro. Farming the third and fourth stage items is considerably more difficult and probably requires at least three to five characters, depending on their templates and ability, to push the spawn forward each time (on Siege that is, perhaps fewer would be needed elsewhere).
     
  5. Cailleach

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    In all honesty, I've never noticed an item unlocking when the spawn is started. On the other hand, although I've spent hours at a time rinsing and repeating the spawn for deco, I'm not noted for my early rising, so I'm rarely there when an early bird pops the spawn to do the puzzle.
     
  6. Uvtha

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    My experiences:

    1) No. It doesn't unlock something every time.

    2) Yes the initial popping of the spawn does unlock stuff. Some of the coolest stuff is first pop stuff. Like the crystal on the pedestal. It is less common though it seems.

    2) While this isn't provable, I've found that if you pop it, advance the spawn one, and neither gives you anything, then the chances that any subsequent spawn advancement will spawn an item is reallllllly low. On the other hand, if someone DOES spawn one of those times then the chances are quite high that at least one thing will appear in subsequent leveling/de-leveling.
     
  7. Lorddog

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    i solo'd this everyday for a year. I cannot get it to go over level 2 :(

    I did the puzzle each time and also the grizzled bones to get the soul gems.

    I also noticed I did not always find an item and the above exclamation make perfect sense. you can find the item pretty fast using ctl shift and looking for a double item or out of place grave.

    I did get the full vat and maybe all the bones inside. but never did get a full rack.
    the pedistol, anhk (half), wall fairy (?), iron maidon, and palm trees are pretty nice but rare.

    the puzzle quest is simple and quick
    my method
    1) run all the switches and mark the 2 that teleport u
    2) then work the first 2 switches until you know both numbers in sequence
    3) move to the next switch until you know its sequence until the 2nd to end.
    now you know the sequence so just run it.

    the way to work 2 switches is by click #1 first and #2 all the rest.
    check the message for when you have 2 correct and then you know the #1 spot. then work the #2 switch with only 1 click and the #1 switch with all the rest until you know its number.

    takes about 2-4 mins to do the whole thing

    Lorddog
     
  8. Sevin0oo0

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    sounds like a fun spawn, too bad it's a Fel only thing. Many of us will Never even see it
     
  9. Smoot

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    .... is a pvp area (its not in fellucca) really "off limits" to you. Im not judging you, but to exclude yourself from a fun and unique spawn (there are no other spawns like this one) is really a shame. There are many non-pvp guilds that do champs in fel for scrolls, and ive done the lich spawn many times even with my rp guild... -non faction, non pvp. Once we were even raided by a couple reds with full pvp temps / gear and killed them.

    In response to the spawning items, i dont know if its still the case, but when SA first came out there was pretty much always a stealther in the zone and you were lucky if you got to an item before he snuck up and took it. If done the spawn alot, and saw numerous times something pop up, and then quickly disappear. Plus we knew they were there because they would get revealed sometimes.
     
  10. lucitus

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    Trammies! The life is hard ;)
     
  11. Uvtha

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    Thats silly. Insure your stuff, and just bring whatever small expendables you need, and a bag of sending. If you get something cool, BoS it to the bank. If reds come, run into a sparkle and recall. If you die, so what? Res and come back its not like you'll lose anything other than like bandages or potions if that.

    What the big deal?
     
  12. Cear Dallben Dragon

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    the only reason devs put things in fel is so that EVERYONE can do them.
    I mean heck, if you wanna hit up lich some time on atlantic just holler. half the time no one's there.
     
  13. SchezwanBeefy

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    This made me LOL so, so hard.