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Provo vs Disco Tamer ?

Discussion in 'UO Bard' started by Moonglum, Feb 25, 2015.

  1. Moonglum

    Moonglum Visitor

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    Trying to decide what to pair up with my Taming skills. I'm thinking if I go Bard I can take one Discipline, either provo or disco. What are the pros/cons here?

    Taming aside...are there any Bard Templates that are useful for soloing Champ spawns?
     
  2. DreadLord Lestat

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    For PvM, I prefer the Disco Tamer so the kills go quicker. Before powerscrolls, I had a Prov Tamer which was nice but I prefer the Disco Tamer. I am not sure about Soling a Champ though.
     
  3. Tomarke

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    I have a provo/disco/tamer which I really enjoy. Depending on the hunt I can stone off provo and use peace for a peace/disco/tamer which is great for crowd control and group buffs when needed. It also comes down to which bard masteries you want to use.
     
  4. Moonglum

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    I guess I'm kinda going for a "pure" template. Tame/Lore/Vet/Mage/Music/??? Don't think I need T/L/V over 110, Magery is definitely somewhere in the 90-100 range, but I know you have to have max music/X to be good. SO leaves me something like sub 60 in another skill. Another music choice is useles, probably something like Hiding, Med, Eval...not sure.
     
  5. Tomarke

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    I'm going to have to disagree with you there but I guess it boils down to my personal playstyle. I'll just share my template with you and you can make your own decision, it is very effective for me:

    120 Lore (110 real, +10 on jewels)
    120 Taming (110 real, +10 on jewels)
    120 Disco
    100 Magery (65 real, +20 on jewels, +15 Tome of Lost Knowledge)
    120 Music
    120 Provo
    103 Vet (75 real, +27 on jewels)

    I keep my bard skills real to maximize what benefits I can from the masteries and I can further specialize my skills with different jewel sets/spellbooks. I can drop my taming skills down to real and increase med to give me some more mana regen if i'm not using a GD. My suit is max LRC and LMC with the rest in Luck, MR, MI, and Int with some other random stuff thrown in. I can play well in a group by changing out pets and masteries and I can swap out provo for peace if needed. If I was going to dump one of my bard skills I would definitely keep disco and drop provo and maybe add med.

    I haven't hit all of the possibilities. But anyways, have fun with whatever you pick. This just happens to work great for me.
     
  6. Lord GOD(GOD)

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    It depends what you intend to do with the Tamer. If you're doing Doom, Disco/Mage Tamer works with a really simple setup don't even need Vet, as does Ninja/Dexxer Tamer. (In terms of soloing everything + DF I mean) if you're using it for Champ Spawns I'd say Vamp/Chiv/Dexxer Tamer, as you can use the pet as a massive shield if you know how to position and command properly while you Whirlwind/Hit Area from safety. I would say for multi purpose (meaning events mainly) I wouldn't even pair Taming with Bard skills as they continually make events anti Bard, here you'd want Mage, Med & Vet imo. (That is if the Tamer part isn't optional, otherwise I'd use a Thrower at events everytime.)

    Discord/Prov can kill most champs in Ilsh if you've got good spawn available to you (often if other people join in - especially with summons - it all goes to crap) At Valor for example you've got greater dragons and parragons so Meph is easy as you don't have to damage directly and therefore avoid all the counter attacks, same with Neira. Rikktor/Barracoon you only really need Discord so you can Trib/Despair, though with Spellweaving as well you can Trib/Despair/WOD after powering up and see some hilarious damage. In Fel I'd just do Discord, probably on a Vamp/Wraith Thrower. One thing I'd bare in mind is your own play style, if you don't think you'd even use mastries, then go 90 real skill jewel up, and have a full dexxer offensive (bush/tact/anat).
     
  7. Xvim

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    I use this template

    120 taming
    120 lore
    120 music
    120 vet (heals uniquely)
    120 peace
    100 magery (can be 120 it doesnt matter )

    When i go tame wild animals, i use peacemaking for taming and resilience. I got luck suit so i cant use things like +skills gains on my suit. I switch
    peacemaking into Discordance for slaying uber monsters. I switch provo for strengen my dragon for PvP.

    I am really fine with this one if you dont plan to have meditation and having luck suit. Just requires 2 (or 3) soulstones.
     
  8. Kuzan

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    I use
    110 tame
    110 lore
    110 vet
    105 Mage
    120 Provo
    120 peace
    120 music
    I don't remember the real skills but I'm there with jewels and talismans
    I've been pondering adding disco in there dropin something
    Just wear max lmc and near 20 mana regen to deal with no Med