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[Magery] PVM mage template

Discussion in 'UO Spellcaster' started by Roddy Doyle, Mar 2, 2011.

  1. Roddy Doyle

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    After a few months of playing after coming back after a 5 year or so layoff, I am wanting to change up my mage bard. Basically I want to soul stone my 120 music and 120 provoke and make a mage for pvm (no pvping). So i wanted to get some advice on a decent pvm mage character. Right now my mage is 120, eval at 110 with a cap of 120, med at 110 working on taking it to 120. I soul stoned my magic resist which was 99.5 and took on focus which is going up quite fast and will have it at 100 pretty soon. So my question is when i soul stone music and provoke i will have 240 points to go somewhere. I have been told to take on mysticism and spellweaving. I just wanted to get some thoughts from peeps out there. Like would taking on wrestling and inscription be better or another combo. Thanks for any ideas.

    I also use a 100% LRC suite with 70 resist across the board.
     
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    I run
    magery
    Eval
    myst
    focus
    spellweave
    resist spells
    med
    I use jewels to bump some of the skills up and have mane regen of 12 or so in my suit

    this is my base template I swap out weave or resist with other skills depending on the situation
    Med is around 70 i think atm and marked down when all my skills are where i want them it will be around 50
     
  3. Roddy Doyle

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    does magic resist really help in pvm...i was told it really doesnt matter much so that is why i was taking it off to add something else
     
  4. canary

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    It is nice and convenient to be able to resist para and poison without resorting to eating or carrying anything. It also helps you not take a big hit for things like curse, etc etc.

    I also stoned my music and provoke, as I got annoyed with anything EM or event related being impervious to the skill set and wasting 240 points on my template.

    I took legendary:

    *Resist
    *Magery
    *Meditation
    *Eval
    *Focus
    *Mystic

    With a MR of 13 (without carrying anything) I find that I can replenish tons of mana and not have to worry so much with both 120 med and focus. I also have 14 resisting spells on my ring, boosting my total resist to 100 with a protection spell on.

    Personally, aside from WoD I don't see much see much use for the additional spells on a mage template when you already have so much at your disposal. I'd rather the points go into being more successful in magery, mysticism and delivering more damage with those spells.
     
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    Template

    Standard Necro/Mage/Weaver
    120 Magery
    120 Meditation
    120 Evaluating Intelligence
    120 Necromancy
    120 Spirit Speak
    120 Spellweaving

    Cost- or Skill-Effective Necro/Mage/Weaver
    120 Meditation
    120 Evaluating Intelligence
    120 Spirit Speak
    115 Magery
    115 Spellweaving
    105 Necromancy
    25 [Whatever Skill You'd Like - perhaps focus for extra mana]

    Suit

    Personally, I never choose all 70s at the expensive of other mods. Ideally, you want your suit to have 100 lower reagent cost, 40 lower mana cost, 6+ mana regeneration, 4/6 casting, 45 defense chance increase, +20 magery skill in order to use a mage weapon, and 60s+ resists.

    At a bare minimum, your suit should include 100 lrc, 40 lmc, 2/6, and 6+ mr.
     
  6. canary

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    Yes, but the OP wanted a good PvM template. Its much better to be carrying a sdi spellbook or slayer spellbook over a mage weapon in PvM. Its only good to use (imo) a weapon is when you are locked with the 15% sdi in PvP.
     
  7. NuSair

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    I carry both on my mages. Depending on the situation I swap them out.
     
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    Likewise. Mage weapon when clearing lesser spawn, then switch to scapper's for the SDI boost for the high-end mobs.
     
  9. canary

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    As do I.

    But the OP asked specifically about PvM.
     
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    He asked about a PvM template, which I gave him. I also offered suit advice--the type of suit that I use on my PvM mages. The reason that I use this suit when fighting lesser mobs is because my casting is interrupted less often. For spawn who die in a single wither, holding a slayer spellbook isn't especially helpful. That said, if the OP does not want to incorporate dci and a mage weapon into his suit, I also gave him/her advice on suit basics: 100 lrc, 40 lmc, 2/6, and 6+ mr.
     
  11. Roddy Doyle

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    I appreciate the advice :)
    Like I said I would drop my provoke and music which would free up 240 skill points and then was thinking of dropping resist which would be another 100 points (well 99.7). So I wanted to get some ideas of which direction to go with that 300 some extra points. I would mainly be hunting within a group of 3 - 5 players so want to be able to support them as well as contribute to the hunt(s). Thanks
     
  12. NuSair

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    I only do PVM on my mage and carry both.
     
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    I dont understand why u need Resistsing spells, i would go for mystic, mage, medi, SW, focus, and eval all 120, beleive me its the best u can do
     
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    I like my little gargoyle mystic/mage/discorder. It works well for hunting solo and with other people. Plus with stones you could switch out to provo when needed. If you just want a pure mage type char, then the template that zchosen layed out would be fun to play as well. I guess it just depends on what type of things your planning on using this char for in PVM.
     
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    The necro/mage/weaver is a super fun template. Go for high int/mana boosts as well as lmc, mr, and sdi, and plan your resists around wraith form and possibly protection.
     
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    I am making one right now with...
    115 Eval
    115 Mage
    120 Med
    115 Resist
    120 SW
    110 Wrestling
    And the rest in focus.

    If anyone sees a problem with this template please let me know.
    Thanks!
     
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    That is a fine template but I would recommend getting the 120 wrestling. The scroll is dirt cheap and I bet if you asked in GC someone would give it to you. Most people recommend away from wrestling in exchange for -20 mage weapon (and +20 in magery skill items to compensate) to free up the points but I like wrestling myself. If you do not plan on disarming though you could always rock 100 anatomy. GM anatomy and 120 eval = 120 defensive wrestling. You cannot of course use the special moves going the anatomy route.
     
  18. Xenobia

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    I can do 120 wrestling for sure. Thanks so much for the info. I am new to this type character (meaning I always have a secondary skill like taming or archery) so I wanted to make sure this was the way to go.

    Again, thanks!
     
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    Well I can't guarantee its the way to go, sometimes you need to be crazy like me to WANT to use wrestling...
     
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    I'm a little on the crazy side too so I will try anything once and if it doesn't seem to work I will stone it and work at something else. Somehow I think the wrestling is a good idea though :)
     
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    I only PVM, so I run with Protection on 24/7, which means I don't need to use FC2/FCR6 at all - freeing up four very expensive and Intense mods on my jewels. My template is maximized for fun and survivability - avoiding direct damage and - and hence, being targeted, as much as possible:)

    Mystic 120
    Focus 120
    SW 120
    Magery 115
    Med - flucuates from 60 -115
    Eval - zero (110 soulstoned)
    Hide 100
    Stealth 80

    suit is 100 LRC 70's 11 MR 40 LMC MI 16 600 luck
    jewels +20 magery, +30 DCI, +24 SDI, +14 Int, +200 luck

    Main offense is summon RC, then hide:) Takes a bit longer to solo mini champs, but I don't die and I can stealth into or out of anywhere I want. The SpellWeave is necessary for self rez and to beef up your RC so the higher monsters don't dispel. WoD for the win is laways nice, averaging 370ish with Focus3 and 550+ foe Focus6.

    Usually carry a sc mage-20 swd +15 DCI and/or shield with SC, DCI15, and 8-15 Phys (help negate Protection penalty). Usual spellbook is a scrappers or Generals book (mr3 30 sdi if casting SW spells).
     
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    Can someone explain this please? How is it that SW aids in preventing dispels on the RC?
     
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    Arcane Empowerment.
     
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    My Favorite PVM Mage 4 Champing is my SW/Hiding/Mage from my 2 Pur Mages (Nekro and myst avaibled to as 6 skill setting)

    125 Int/110str/ 20 dex

    120 Magery
    120 Eval Int
    120 Meditation
    120 Resie
    120 SW
    100 Hiding
    20 Focus

    SDI 52% (+ Book and 40% from Arcane) Gear Armor white +20 Magery and +30 Resie white 6 FCR but 0 FC.
    +25 HI finished my 130 HP, 40% LMC, 8 MR around at 100% LRC so i can good play white 66/70/70/70/70 white protection on.
    Only can play white protection on mage.
    Most time i champ on felu and use slayer books in hand but have an mage weapon and shield avaibled to on me thats give me defense if needet and +30 dci (15 mage weapon 15 on arcane shield).
     
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    60 Necro (for Wraith Form)
    110 Magery (for flamstrikes, u wont cast evs, or ee etc...)
    120 Eval (max damage for magery spells)
    120 Mystic (never Fail colossus)
    120 Focus (for max damage on mystic spells)
    120 Spell weaving (never miss World of death + timer for arcane circle)
    100 Scribe ;)

    i dont go 4/6, i think 2/6 is enough
    u have 70free skills, and 40 skills from crystaline ring (+20mage +20focus), makes 110

    i added 100 scribe for more sdi, you could add 110 resisting spells or 100 meditation which i dont recommend for pvm

    N.B: wraith form + good damage = u never get out of mana, its amazing, u should try this template, TRY TO GO MAX SDI PARTS, will help u leaching more mana!!!!
     
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  26. Shinners

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    ZChosen your temp seems very interesting im going to give that shot lol.. Ive never done spellweaving or mystic i was gone from UO before any came out so yeah should be a treat lol..
     
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    If a pure mage template is what you're going for; I'd run
    Magery
    Eval. Int.
    Meditation
    Resisting Spells
    Wrestling
    Parrying
     
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    I'm a returning player building a mage for the first time.

    I noticed many templates use Spell weaving. For a PVM mage.

    What is the benefits of SW on a Mage?
     
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