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PvP and tamers

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Splup, Jan 30, 2009.

  1. Splup

    Splup Guest

    I heard that something is being done to tamers in PvP. Been searching for the info but can't find it.

    Could someone give a link to whats happening, or then explain it, please :)
     
  2. ColterDC

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    Unless someone else has more info, the only thing that has been said is that they are looking into adjusting a pet's power.
     
  3. Wenchkin

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    May be in a future PvP fix after the heal pots and such are tested, but nobody has given firm indications of when and what *sigh* So it could be a completely ineffective change or a whacking great nerf and nobody is saying.

    Probably a gently gently fix though, EA seem very scared of annoying tamers, so my gps are on completely ineffective changes to tamers.

    Wenchy
     
  4. Viper09

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    Ahahaha, exactly what I was thinking :D

    To the OP:
    Good job at the sneaky of starting the whole argument here again. Almost thought you were being serious for a second ;)
     
  5. Yalp

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    ditto!
     
  6. Splup

    Splup Guest

    Actually I am serious. I'm creating char on a new shard. I don't use tamers on my main shard (except discotamer for PvM), but been thinking about making one here since I'll be playing alone instead of playing with my guild. So was thinking if I want to go through the trouble of training taming ;)
     
  7. Kellgory

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    The only thing that I've heard was that they were looking into the damage done by Greater Dragons. So far the only change done to tamers is they made it where pets would not attack someone in the same faction.
     
  8. Viper09

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    The only mention the devs gave to nerfing taming was during one of their townhall meetings and it was only in regards to the greater dragon. Other than that there is no other mentions to it.

    If they do end up doing anything against taming, it wont make your effort worthless. Tamers will still be able to use them in PvP I'm sure.
     
  9. WarUltima

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    I still think GDs arent the problem, its the dreads. At least you have to tow a dragon behind you. dreads on the other hand can be used far more effectively and still packs the ability to onstantly kill any player with some luck rng rolls and assistace from the tamer.

    Dreads when not in combat has mounted running speed(ridden by tamer) and when in combat it dishes out high melee dmg, mechine gunning spells and last but not least the same good ol 50+dmg 3 screen range fire breathe. Have you seem one of those gimp archer tamer lately? A zero skill combo like run up dismount shot, moving shot spam aint gonna kill anyone. However if its dismount, all kill, moving shot spam 150dmg in 3 second happens all the time. Its amazing how a "mountable" pet can turn a zero skill combo into a killer combo while not requiring the tamer any real player skill to do so.

    Tamers can wreck thru victims quick assuming the tamer knows what they are doing. Also the previous pets all had their weakness e.g beetles dies quick, nightmare is no where near as powerful as dreads, cus and hiryus can be poisoned to prevent tamer from remounting. Dreads on the other hand instant arch cure any poison, has 650+ hp, fire breathe for 50 and has no slayer in game against them for just 3 slots. Its just weird they passed QA to be tamables and abused in pvp.

    If you dont see the real problems behind all these rational reasons making em overpowered you are probably a tamer urself, and/or not a real pvper, and/or an evas ion based template and/or dont care about balance in pvp. at this very moment the best way to take out a good tamer is to gank him outnumbered or play a tamer gimp urself. Tamer template itself is a ganking template and not currently balanced for 1v1 and if dev thinks its ok to leave a few handicapped templates in game then leave everything alone, if not I would like to see some real balancing acts.

    Peace out.
     
  10. :yawn:

    Seriously...didn't we go through all of this enough already?

    I think the devs have enough info to make a decision. So why go back through it again?

    :bdh:

    It's really a tired topic...

    [​IMG]
     
  11. WarUltima

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    If you have nothing legit to say explaining why instantly killing players and 50dmg fire breathe from 3 screens away is ok then the door is that way. No one forces you to read other peoples civil yet legit conversation, stop reading the threads you don't like. Leave the topics to people who concerns about game betterment and balances.

    Afterall, we are not the ones who's been posting meaningless comments and pictures are we. ^^
     
  12. Restroom Cowboy

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    Dread Warhorse...before and after the nerf.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Good point.

    This thread is useless.
     
  14. WarUltima

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    Good girl. Thank You. (Sorry to be rude but people who care about balance needs this space) =)

    And seem like you are very concerned about this "useless" thread, enough to keep replying trying to keep people revealing more details. Sorry, if it means to make the game better I am not afraid to present any evidences/details that devs need even if its beating on dead horse.

    I would love if everyone will be able to scale up to tamers level but it will suck if everyone is able to instant killing others. This makes the game ******** (looking back at WoD archer, nerve all kill death strike gimps ect, yeaa those sucked and unfortunately tamers are doing just that)
     
  15. Yalp

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    Oh geez... here it goes.. name calling peeps who don't agree.

    The reason for the frustration is that there are 5,252 threads already on this exact same topic, with each thread going on for pages at a time. In each thread there are hundreds of posts name calling, insulting and belittling each other.

    But in those same 5,252 threads, there are real stats, actual debate issues, and well laid out reasoning for the posters' pov. And it's been done time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again.

    So when some yahoo starts another NEW thread about the same ol issue which has been hashed, rehashed, thrown about, re-thrown about, examined, re-examined, debated, re-debated, discussed, re-discussed you can hear a collective groan coming from the people on the boards.
     
  16. Heartseeker

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    I can't believe people are still bringing this up.

    GD are probably the stupidest pet to play.

    Their AI is laughable.

    All the players saying how they cast FS and then breath weapon are full of it.

    They are just as likely to cast something totally stupid and run off.

    I took my Greater to do some Champs, and I will never again.

    I can't believe people complain about them in PVP.

    Unless you are looking for duels, they are about as useless as a mongbat at Champs.

    They run after everything and are so slow it isn't funny.

    Lastly, their following skills suck, since they get hung up on the environment everywhere.

    If anything I feel sorry for them.
     
  17. Wenchkin

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    Well, until EA put their cards on the table and give us proper details, players will continue to ask for said details. And others who feel that something should be done, will get increasingly frustrated when nothing appears to be happening.

    Don't blame players for asking these questions or being impatient after months waiting for firm info. It's EA who aren't providing the info or reassurance here. EA were the ones who said changes were coming, so now they need to follow up and say what those are and give a timeline.

    Tamers want to plan templates and sort out pets, PvPers want to know where they stand when fighting tamers. Both sides deserve to be told what's going on.

    Wenchy