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PvP currently disrupted

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Omnius, Sep 8, 2009.

  1. Omnius

    Omnius Crazed Zealot
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    UOAM no longer work - good bye quick responses and efficient coordination of groups
    UOA - all sorts of problems have cropped up, basically complex macros are out
    Players having problems patching, other players hiding in the new lands whilst folks have not yet all upgraded.

    PvP is officially disrupted. How long does everyone think it will take to get things back in gear? UOAM might be the biggest problem of all.
     
  2. lady_pearl

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    uoam is working for me. It just wont show the new lands.
     
  3. Nexus

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    UOAM? Stick a fork in it, it's done...UOA? Dunno could be tomorrow could be next week...Might be never who knows...
     
  4. Kat

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    If UOAM is done, so am I. Will just be a matter of letting GTC's run out.
     
  5. Tjalle

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    How is it disrupted?

    A player sees another player. They fight.
    If they are not alone then more people fight.

    Don´t let programs like these be a gamebreaker. Just go out and fight...
     
  6. Viper09

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    Do all big-time PvPers really rely that much on UOA?
    I never used it.

    I'm sure it's just a matter of time until UOA works again with the new changes though.
     
  7. Dol'Gorath

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    UOAM hasn't been supported for years. The fact it was still working to this point was a miracle. It was bound to no longer work sooner or later.
     
  8. Mitzlplik_SP

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    UOAM will continue to work,just won`t see new lands on it.
     
  9. Goldberg-Chessy

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    Basically if you cant be part of an "organized" huge gank squad you are quitting?

    Vent is not enough for you lol?

    "OMG EVERYBODY COME TO MY DOT RIGHT NOW!!"

    "I PEELED OFF AND TRIED TO 1 VS 1 AND GOT OWNED AND NOW YOU ARE ALL JERKS IF I GET LOOTED!"

    "DON'T ASK ME HOW I GOT SPLIT OFF IN THE FIRST PLACE CUZ ITS NEVER MY FAULT THAT I CANT STAY WITH THE GROUP! EVERYBODY ELSE IN MY GUILD IS TOO FAST FOR ME!"

    Any of these sound familiar?
     
  10. Slayvite

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    Dear gods!!! you dont mean PvP'ers actually have to use their brains now and press keys??? Oh the travesty :party:
     
  11. Hugibear

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    At first I thought you were at some point in time part of her guild. But the 1 vs 1 comment gave you away she would never fight anyone 1 vs 1. Her guild needs map becuase they play about 80% stealthers. Cant organize a gank when you dont know who is where.
     
  12. Diomedes Artega

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    This.

    And...quite frankly, neither have been supported for a while. If you look closely, early 2008 was the last time UOA worked. Now the map...that has been a LONG time since it was updated with support. Years in fact.
     
  13. Lynk

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    Ya this patch is weird... one guy in my guild can't use UOA or Map, but the rest of us can without issue.
     
  14. Nastia Cross

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    Outside of pvp, I didn't think this would be an issue until I thought to wander about the new lands last night. I felt extremely lost without the use and functionality of UOAM. I use the classic client and wish they would update the pathetic little classic client map to one more like UOAM. I understand that the developer will not give out the code for UOAM, but there's got to be a way to get the feel and most of the functionality without encroaching on his copyright or whatever. The zoom in and out, the resize, the ability to see and track guild and alliance members and the ability to look at different parts of the map without actually being in that location are all things that are useful for the entire UO population, not just Pvpers.

    I hope that in the near future, the devs grant my wish and give us a better, more functional and user friendly map.
     
  15. Lord Gabriel

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    I would like to think that at the least, although very brief any 3rd party programs that some might use in pvp would be not working. So at least for a day or two pvp would be a more level playing field.
     
  16. ACB1961

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    UOAM hasn't worked correctly for us since the snow. It will work somewhat if you have a spot it likes to calibrate it. If its working for you be happy as long as possible.
     
  17. Ya I really wish the person that made UOAM would please come back and update it to these new lands or allow others to pick up the torch on this mapping of the new lands.
     
  18. Cloak&Dagger

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    I have a fairly serious question, while for some of you it may be second nature by now to be using these programs, and for others you may have never experienced play with out them, but my question still stands.

    What did you all do before UOAM? Not pvp? I realize things are MUCH different...But I have not used UOAM since before it stopped being updated, its just a matter of knowing your shard, if you know the land marks or houses (if pvping in a housing type area) then you can easily coordinate where everyone is, Granted with more people this gets harder to do but really if you are really having a battle with 30+ each side, then you need to learn how to work in groups of 10 or something.
     
  19. PASmountaindew

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    PvP is only disrupted because the popular third party apps used to script and speed hack have not finished getting their apps compliant with the new updates that have been published. there i said it
     
  20. MiNi MaGi

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    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you sound like a pvpr from atlantic :D
     
  21. MiNi MaGi

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    umm no..:dunce:
     
  22. MiNi MaGi

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    uoam is a huge key to pvp or pvm. i dont care who you are unless your god! if your in T2A running around and i say hey come to COD... and considering half the players ive ran into on uo couldnt even tell me where half the spawns are.. let alone come find me? and describe where i am? pfft gl bro go run around T2A and decribe the terrain so i can find you LOL:dunce:. and its just as bad in YEW, but i wont even go there because im 100% agaisnt gate fighting. ANYWAYS this is a dead subject with UOAM it wasnt even updated for umbra/Luna.. so people need to get over it.
     
  23. MiNi MaGi

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    im agaisnt "illegal" 3rd party programs not uoassist and uoam.. but i can promise you that the "illegal" ones dont get affected by this and the ones that do are fixed within a few hours. i wish the uo team could work this fast lol
     
  24. Cloak&Dagger

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    One, t2a is a breeze for me to navigate...I only play with 4 other people all of which (except one) knows it well enough to know how to navigate to where we say to. But this does not answer my original question, What did all of the people crying do before uoam? not play the game?

    And as for yew, "just south of the crypts" or "just north of this house" works just fine, it is not that difficult to find, really if you are THAT far away that they would die before you get there, then uoam aint saving them anyway. Then again I am not for gate fighting, Only really pvp in t2a or cities if we are doing any sort of faction fighting but other wise only in t2a.

    I never said uoam was useless, but people are going to quit playing over a third party unsupported application that has not been updated since....When was the last time again?
     
  25. Lord Frodo

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    That so, UOA just dowloaded a patch. LOL
    :link:http://www.tugsoft.com/UOAssist/default.asp
     
  26. MiNi MaGi

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    let them quit :) more house space! ill play uo solo and have castles all over the place! and im sure it is a breeze for you to navigate.. its the same for me but if im chasing someone down and we are teleporting all over the place and running north then east then south/east(and no i wouldnt seriously chase someone that fkn far or if i did i def wouldnt need help but just using it as an example).. its just ALOT easier for you to follow my dot v me talking in vent when other people could be calling targets.. but i dont care about it not being updated because there isnt any new lands we can pvp in so what does it matter imo.
     
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  28. Gellor

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    Here is a person who understands the issue.

    I doubt there are four people in UO who could find a location to within a screen purely based upon a description. "I'm 4 clumps north of COD near the rock ledge". Yeah right, you'll find that:thumbsup:
     
  29. Diomedes Artega

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    This is water over the dam. If you looked in the notes excluding the recent publish, then yes it was as I said. Look again. Yes, it says 2008. If you want me to correct myself, yes it says they are working on support IF people want it. Which of course they will since that is what this whole thread starts with.

    In fact, it said March 20, 2008. Nice updating.
     
  30. Sneaky Que

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    UOAM is working just fine for me and my guild. Just not in the new lands obviously. The majority of PvP will of course still happen in the Britannian and t2a Fel areas. Not a big deal really.

    UOAM is just an aid for the game in general, not having it work in the new areas is hardly game braking.
     
  31. bumblefutz

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    Am I the only one who's played 10 years without UOAM and wishes people would STFU?
     
  32. Viper09

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    I've played this game for around 6-8 years. I've never used any 3rd party program. Not even UOA.
     
  33. willreed

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    Love it hate it doesn't matter. It all comes down to what you're prepared to live with and to live without.

    Been living and dying here since 12/1997.
     
  34. CatLord

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    I thought pvp was disrupted because there is no easy way to self/cross heal, auto targetting... but that is just me...
     
  35. willreed

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    CatLord, Good point. Back when if first came out that was a major thing for us too. Am I remembering this correctly that UOA used to have a Minimum HP level that when your HP fell below the set point it would auto swig a pot or band? That may be what I'm thinking about. Anyway, it does have some 'fire and forget' features that are handy.

    Gellor, You're right, at least irl we have GPS.
     
  36. The Fallout

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    Yes, quit for something that isn't even EA/Mythic's fault. My god people quit for the silliest reasons.
     
  37. Viper09

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    Seriously.

    I've never used UOAM. I know many many people who don't use UOAM, we have no problem playing, navigating, etc. :D

    But hey, if they want to quit over a 3rd party program that EA/Mythic has nothing to do with, let them. Even though it is a horrible excuse to quit over.
     
  38. Lady Michelle

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    When you click on UOAM and that gump comes up to update map files go to advance an remove check marks then press ok. When I was just click on ok i was getting an error report and it was closing out til I did the advance setting
     
  39. Flutter

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    UOAM has been working for us just fine.
     
  40. RichDC

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    As a matter of fact, thats exactly what i did. Ive used UOAM since i started, thankfully for me it works fine.

    So does assist...no problems with that either.
     
  41. AaronTheAssassin

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    I taught the lost art of...Co Ordinates!!! Dun dun Dun, this lost art works on ALL MAPS in UO and IRL! there is even a UO-PRO (AKA Legal) UOA Add-on that would allow you type in a command to get your co ordinates.

    What co ordinates is, is like placing a grid equally spaced all around the map, and then inside the grid is an even smaller set of gridlines, and inside those are a lot of itty bitty teensy weensy gridlines. This grid system allows you to chart your exact location! (Holds up an Oooh And Aaah Sign) and for 4 easy payments of $29.95 I can teach you this age-old wisdom OR, you can go back to elementary school.

    on a serious note, I used Co Ords for remembering important locations, and calling for assistance in combat, and it is impressive to idiots.
     
  42. Vhyle

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    I don't know what UOAM is, nor have I ever used it. But is it that big of a deal? People can't PvP anymore without it? Just go out there and whoop some ass. Use a map. It's not hard to do.
     
  43. Kat

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    I'll add to that statement since it isn't clear. I am DONE if there isn't a comparable map application or in-game solution released in the near future. I am not particularly attached to UOAM itself. lol

    I just feel lost without something comparable to fall back on and playing without it isn't particularly enjoyable in combination with my playstyle. I don't see what is so difficult to understand about that.
     
  44. UOAM is out completely for me. I can't even get the program to open. It starts up, but dies before the map comes up.
     
  45. Nastia Cross

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    I don't think that you're getting the point. We've been asking for an integrated map for BOTH clients that has the functionality of UOAM and we've been met with silence. Certain people have stepped up to develop a new mapping program and there was very good discussions amongst the community but once it became clear that a map program was near completion, the thread was locked.

    All we want is a clear indication that EA/MYTHIC is working towards a much better map for the classic and enhanced clients. Silence or vague answers about the status or future of the in game map doesn't help when many UO players rely on UOAM (and not just for PVP either).
     
  46. CatLord

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    Unless characters develop "Eagle View", why would they see more than their immediate surroundings?
     
  47. Nastia Cross

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    Ever used a road map or mapquest to get where you're going?