Since it is becoming bluntly obvious the Dev's are not going to do anything to encourage PvP I say we take it into our own hands. As it stands right now Atl is the biggest PvP shard, simply because it is the most populated shard. I purpose that we the payers create a PvP shard our selfs. I recommend that "select" an east coast shard with a smaller population (for housing) and all of the major PvP guilds transfer or create characters on that shard. Once the PvP guilds get established on the shard of choice every PvP guild will war each other. This way there will be PvP across all shards, and add risk when doing mundane tasks in Tram based facets. If a guild attempts to PvP while not showing "orange" due to not declaring war on the other PvP guilds, in order to be safe in tram facets, that guild would be singled out and killed on sight any time there is a fight in Fel and they attempt to show up. No trying to have the best of both worlds. The reason I recommend selecting an east coast shard with a smaller population is mainly because of housing, but also so the majority of players would have to start from the same place because there will not be as many established PvP guilds on a smaller shard. What does everyone else think?