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Question For Dev On A Known Problem That Needs To Be addressed

Discussion in 'UHall' started by lub1985, May 16, 2008.

  1. lub1985

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    im a idoc hunter its great u guy fixed a bunch of the idoc problems but there is one problem that still exsists that has not even been addressed an alot of people will agree is a hug problem an it was eather done by your staff or a really huge exsploit but we would like to see some action on it now to exsplain the problem......

    i have ran the world of brit on the trammel side an fel side today on lake austins shard an low an behold the problem i was hoping would be fixed is only 100 times worse then it has been now i ran 6 of the server sections of going by the uoauto map outa the 6 server box's i checked me an my group counted an marked in uoauto map over 1200 small towers all owned by a name of (dsfasfa) that are all empty houses that are only there blocking hundreds apond hundreds of house spots in tram an fel an theres about another 500 to 800 that are placed that just say private an unnamed with no character placer name so we are talking in the area of 2500 to 3000 house spots being blocked an im sure alot of uo would like to know one if someones has done this why hasnt nothing been done about it or 2 if it was ea why where these houses placed into uo there is something seriusly wrong here an from what i hear this is not the only shard having this problem Dev's plz give us some insight on this problem!!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. woooow ... I'm all for removing unpaid for houseing ... but ... having just taken a quick run across the LA shard ... from brit gy north to the mountains, east to snakes pass, back to the west thru the forest of sameleth, then back south to brit, along the "housing row" between LB's castle and the mountains ...
    *shakes head*

    an awful lot of "green space" ... a scary lot of green space ... screens of green space between any placed houseing ....
    Possibly MORE green space than is on Siege ...

    Just saying ... as much as I am for removing exploit/unpaid houseing .... On LA .... might want to consider being the Last to get "cleaned up" ...
    cause ...
    it WILL increase the green space ... but ... that wont necessarily be a "good thing" for LA ....
    Just saying ...
    Might end up with more green Space than Siege or Oce ...

    *shrugs*

    post a screenie of your automap markings ...
    your numbers are questionable
     
  3. Basara

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    We did a catalogue of ALL the DSFASFA houses on Lake Austin - there were only about 150, and we've sent the list to Jeremy.

    It WOULD be nice to have it fixed and those removed, though.

    One of the reasons LA has so much open space is that it is, IIRC, the only pre-AoS shard (and it's only BARELY pre-AoS at that) that doesn't have any grandfathered housing. And, a lot of houses were built on LA that SHOULD have fallen, but haven't (belonging to people who moved or started anew when the shard opened, then the houses never fell).

    T'Amon, you want to pipe in here? You were the custodian of the dsfasfa list....
     
  4. Dermott of LS

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    It looks like the trend seems to be reversing itself at least a little on LS. FOr a while, my cabin was the only house in the near area, there was room for three or four other houses in that area.

    Now at least 3 of those slots have been taken and not by the biggest houses that can fit either, but by the original small 7x7 houses. That's telling me that LS at least is seeing some new blood that does not yet have the resources to obtain larger structures at the current time, OR, it could be secondary account holding houses, but then, like I said, these are not the efficient "fit the biggest possible footprint for the most storage" buildings either.
     
  5. Azureal

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    Hooray, Oceania got a mention! Woohoo! Green space in Oceania I gotta agree with. With waterfront views, in Trammel with space enough for 2 18x18's side by side, or damn close together. Find this for me please?

    For a quiet server we sure do have a lot of castles.
     
  6. Pipes in ... the number is about right. It was submitted in PM when Jeremy was taking it that way, then via support pages. There are 2 or 3 around the Cove area that I think we missed. Will have to check coords next time in the area. I know 1 is due S of the town gate.

    Fayled is right ... there's scads of green on LA. I'd love to see DSFASFA units gone, but it's not like there are hundreds of folks crying for housing.

    To the OP: Run around LA Malas some time ... we could set up a whole world of 18x18s on that facet. I know where 10 units can go easily.
     
  7. Pickaxe Pete

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    That is quite astounding. I am guessing these are not trial accounts, as the 15-days-or-older rule has been in place for a while now.

    Clearly someone knows of an exploit whereby they can place an unlimited number of homes with the same character. That seems quite serious.

    Or, it is an EA employee attempting to make the shard appear fuller than it is. In which case one would think they could also change their name very simply for each placement.
     
  8. Dermott of LS

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    These are old houses. If I remember correctly, the system at the time was that EA took control of the house (thus the DSFASFA) while an account was banned/suspended yet under review (in case of a wrongfull banning). The idea was that once the review was complete that the house would then decay with the items inside deleted and the real estate would become available again.
     
  9. Basara

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    Actually, the dsfasfa houses were ALWAYS EA/OSI owned....

    They were part of a promotion at the time LA was opened, that was either cut short or never implemented. The story goes that certain new accounts could do something to acquire one of the houses randomly as part of the promotion.
    ALL of these houses are small stone towers. The one exception WAS a small stone tower until Silvani or someone else at EA 3 or so years ago razed one to a foundation, to see if they could be removed by individual action. This oddball can be found between Wind and Despise. Another plot that might have been one was nearby, owned by Silvani, that looks to have been resized, and stayed in a state of decay for a LONG time before turning into an "Owned by OSI" house.

    The OTHER houses, though, without ANY owner name, are actioned accounts' houses.
     
  10. Dermott of LS

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    Ahh I had forgotten about those.
     
  11. Desolation87

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    Now, LA has a whole lot of space, anyone, and I really mean ANYONE could place an 18*18 straight away. Don't you think the seriously stretched Devs would be better spending their time on other things?




    Woot LA btw!
     
  12. Plucky Duck

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    I love how ham handed and fast everyone is at wanting everything the way they want it the second they want it. I find it hard to believe this person is an idocer if he doesn't understand where those non named houses came from. They are banned accounts and are in no way associated with anything the devs stated they were fixing.

    They did state they were going to fix something that had to do with account aging issue that gave people permanent static-ed housing , But since this publish hasn't been active for a whole week yet let alone the three months it will take if they did in fact fix the inactive decay timer. So I would really suggest people try and practice some logic and patience and try and show the devs you know what you're speaking of before you make a post the devs don't deem worthy of responding to do to its lack of accurate information and pulling way exaggerated numbers and without understanding the different nuances of housing decay that a idocer should know.
     
  13. Basara

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    Yeah, but....

    Location, Location, Location....

    Some of these are blocking REALLY nice spots - like the strip by the south vesper road that has like 8 or 9 of the things in a near perfect row, wall to wall.
     
  14. Plucky Duck

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    sorry about my heated response but to me its two issues.

    This is a Shard specific issue and is one of the bottom three populated shards ingame and this issue is not at all related to what the devs stated they would fix at all. Just like someone is going to say why didnt this fix (fix) the old only two lines of text pre aos banned houses that are perma blessed and why didnt it fix any of the perma blessed seer enhanced villages that are no longer in use. Just a what have you done for me latly attitude that bothers me sorry.

    The other issue is simple. This game is in its death rattle and if they fixed such minor proplems which would take up a ton of there man hours this game has no chance of survival.
     
  15. Joyous2K

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    I think this is one that is best addressed by Cal: UO and all of its great people are steaming mad about this known issue. Piping hot with anger. But in the interests of the gmae and the new events we respectfully bow at you not having any changes made to this known problem.

    I think abandoned houses should be destroyed, but it may look ugly after they are all gone.
     
  16. Plucky Duck

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    You just made my point for me.

    I said there are many reasons certain houses became blessed (staticed) through the ten year history of this game. They stated they were fixing the big known issues in regards to the vast majority of those issues. The issue brought up here is not one of thos big issues but a small issue on one of the most underpopulated shards.

    I am sure if they get the tim or if this issue being brought up here is an easy fix they might get around to eventaully addressing it.
     
  17. THP

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    There are heaps of unpaid for houses on all shards

    Jeremy did say that the team were looking into doing another ''bigfall day''...

    Hopefully they can make some sort of event around it even...there are even keeps and castles that have stood forever unpaid for years that never get used and never will unless the devs roll there sleeves up and do a sweep of the land again!!! and this time get it right!!
     
  18. Lord Kynd

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    a few things...

    so YOU actually think EA will let there famed owned by OSI/BSFA houses go for free ? lol find a different place to place.

    LA .. ONLY pre-aos shard ??? you hit your mellon maybe? atlantic was around long before AOS . WE have grandfathered housing still all over.


    on a side note, good to see a MOD using all caps to emphesize(spelling to tired) words, now maybe that one girl MOD will ban you too :p
    CAP'S are not YELLING. Learn what communincation skills are.
     
  19. Wraith One

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    First off I would like to mention that the grandfathered homes will not be in any way changed simply due to reasons they mentioned years ago. Grandfathered homes were and still are homes that people owned on a single account and never traded. The only way to get one is to get ahold of a grandfathered account. This was due to the old housing system allowing players to own more than 1 home per account. Now, as for the banned account homes and the dsfasfa thats just a whole new story. You might actually be more surprised that there aren't just the banned account homes with no owner name, but others that are stuck in different ways. Some are just sitting there, some are stuck in Demolition pending and never to leave that state of decay, and then your no owner homes. Then you got the unpaid for houses which actually as far as I know is actually a bug within their own housing system. Then lastly, you got the shard specific dsfasfa homes which should be around 144 to 150 only in trammel that was intended as a free giveaway home to newbies that started on LA when it opened, but well you guessed it. No one wanted a small house on a new shard with no way to get their current stuff to LA. (Xsharding did not exist when LA opened). Now you say there's a lot of green space on LA? Heh, you should travel more shards just about every shard aside from Atl, GL, LS, Europa, and Chessy is lacking more homes than usual, and even then those few shards mentioned are missing homes just most of the bigger homes are still left.
     
  20. Basara

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    Try reading my post again... You apparently missed what I was saying completely...

    I was saying that LA is the only shard made prior to AoS that doesn't have grandfathered housing, as far as I know.
     
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