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Question or two or three on thieves :)

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Antmf712, Dec 26, 2013.

  1. Antmf712

    Antmf712 Journeyman
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    I am making a thief with ninjitsu as part of the temp.
    Stealth 80
    Hide 100
    Steal 120
    Snoop 100
    Ninja 120
    Fencing 120
    80 Poisoning?
    or should I go detect hidden or tracking?

    Is this a good temp to run with on Siege?


    And last but not least how much Str , Intel, and or dex?
     
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  2. Lythos-

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    That template may work but there's going to be drawbacks since you won't have tactics. Personally i would replace wep skill and poisoning with wrestling and magery with +skill items to get it to where you need it. Then you can have some form of healing and be able to cast EV's if you're stealing from mobs and mind blast if you're stealing from people. You will have the defense of wrestle while you're unarmed stealing instead of having to disarm your fencing wep.

    As for Siege: never played there and stats it would depend on final template. That's just my .02.
     
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  3. Great DC

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    I would suggest 120 resist and 120 wrestle instead of fencing/poisoning. Lots of ways to get bonus skill points on that template. Or resist and a way to heal; bush, chiv, healing. Para spam and mana vamp will get you alot without resist
     
  4. Voodoo Bad Mojo

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    isnt there a UO Crime forum for this kinda discussion?
     
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  5. Viper09

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    Seeing as there have been many discussions on UHall about other templates, I don't see any reason why the OP can't discuss thief templates here...


    In regards to the template, I don't think you need to go all the way with ninjitsu. I'm sure there are benefits to maxing it out. The question you need to ask is what you want that skill for? I use it for llama form for moving around fast in stealth mode and shadow jump, so I leave the skill locked somewhere around 70.

    The biggest problem that I see is with fencing and poisoning. You not only lack tactics, but a formal way of healing. The best you could do with that is kill a few crafters because you probably wont last very long in a real PvP situation. Plus, you're a thief, not a murderer. You're goal is to loot the person without killing them :p

    Instead, I would suggest wrestling so you can disarm your opponent and steal their weapon afterwards (which you can do if you're quick enough). I think you may need tactics with this, in which case you'd drop fencing and poisoning in favor of wrestling and tactics.
     
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  7. Lorddog

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    btw siege is the best and we have the best cookies too!
     
  8. CrazyUserName

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    so are you saying there are "the best" cookies to steal... or does everyone on siege give them out willy nilly?

    and what makes Siege cookies the best? did you put more butter in them? more chocolate chips? no insurance? potential death around every corner? :)
     
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    Dude. Don't lie. Everyone knows my cookies are the best.
     
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  11. startle

    startle Siege... Where the fun begins.
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    Prove it! :cool:
     
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    I can't believe nobody's yet joked about checking out this baking superiority on Siege and losing one's cookies!
     
  13. startle

    startle Siege... Where the fun begins.
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    Those of us on Siege who rarely carry anything that they care about (a lot) without it being our Blessed Item, can appreciate the wonderfully illustrated journey's of our own infamous expert of pilfering - our very own, Ladra.
     
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  14. Victim of Siege

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    She already did . . .
     
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  15. kaio

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    Im no expert on running a thief on siege. My experience with playing on siege is that, it really, and i mean REALLY sux, not beeing able to travel around.
    On siege the only way is with the magery gate spell. so you might wanna add some magery to youre template, or else youre kinda stucked in towns, unless you like to run alot.
     
  16. weins201

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    Why do you want Fencing and Poisoning?? That isn't a Thief that is an Assasin, you need to figure out what you really want to do, if you run that on siege you wll get mangled and one oyu go red youcant be a thief anymore?? So Stealing, or Killing? Nija tgo into animal form isn't going to work like you think / want. The Wrestle Mage idea is good, as you wont have to run all over the place.

    Again are you really going to steal or somting else - if you are really gonna steal I would put on detect and tracking to find others in the area before you try for stuff :)
     
  17. Viper09

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    Animal form is still a great skill if you have it high enough to do llama form. The speed boost is very nice when stealthing around.
     
  18. Prime.

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    If you're going to be a PvP thief I'd suggest going 100% defensive in your build, you can't go 50/50 in this games current settings. You'll get dropped pretty quickly. So wrestling/resist are great replacements ^_^
     
  19. The Predator

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    My opinion for a Siege based thief based on a good play style:
    • Drop Ninja to 100 (+20 extra points for template)
    • Drop Fencing for Wrestling (120)
    • Drop Poisoning (80) and (+20 extra from dropping Ninja) into Magery (100)
    If you can get a Burglar's Bandana with a Clothing Bless Deed --- Do it, and add extra points (30) into Ninja/Mage.
    This template is versatile in my opinion. Good offensive and defensive options. I.E -- Disarm/Death Strike with Wrestling. Invis/Stealth get away when you cannot hide, EVs at Spawn, Healing, etc.
    Been a while, but I think it's a nice template.
     
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  20. Antmf712

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    Thank you so much I think this is waht I will go with, Thank you all. Have a Happy and Healthy New YEar