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Rarity on books from Garg Quests

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Kylie Kinslayer, Sep 29, 2010.

  1. Kylie Kinslayer

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    I have been doing the quests trying to get a set of books. I have ran across 3 different types, normal (all colors) ... Collector's Edition (white) ... and First Edition (black)... Some I have told about the first edition thought I was lying until I showed them so that got me to wondering how often each type spawn. Anyone have any idea?


    also:

    There is a complete list (which seems incomplete) of the books here In Game Books
    I have ran across one {The Book of Ritual} which is not listed. Anyone esle ran across any not listed there?
     
  2. Storm

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    I am just collecting the collectors I had so many of the others I had to throw em out
     
  3. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Sorry, you had a bunch of the first editions? or just the normal ones?
     
  4. Beastmaster

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    There are also Limited Editions.
     
  5. MalagAste

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    Aye Limited Editions are sort of orangish....
     
  6. Kylie Kinslayer

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  7. Yalp

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    There are actually 4 types of books.. Regular, Collectors Ed, First Ed and Limited Ed. I believe the Collector's are always white, the First Ed's are Black and the Limited's are a brown/beige color.

    this is a better thread for the books.. I believe there are 37 different titles

    http://vboards.stratics.com/uhall/185507-axem-quest-books.html
     
  8. Trebr Drab

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    The Book of Ritual is Kodeks Rit, which is written in Gargoyle. I wonder if what you have is a translated copy by a player. The official books stop their pages where they end, if I'm not mistaken, so you can check this out by checking the number of pages.
     
  9. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Nah, not a player copy. Actually got it from Percolem Quest. Author unknown and stops at the third page just like Kodeks Rit too. Thanks tho, guess all the garg language books have standard versions too. Cool.

    *added*

    Well it WAS by unknown until I opened both Kodeks Rit and The Book of Ritual. Now it says by Naxatilor, just like Kodeks Rit.
     
  10. Trebr Drab

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    Really? Now that's interesting.
     
  11. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Yeah, seemed strange to me too. Maybe when I get the Kodeks version of family it will change as well....
     
  12. Beastmaster

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    All the Kodeks have 2 versions
     
  13. Sevin0oo0

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    Is this from the same quest?
    Snilwit's Big Book of Boardgame Strategy [Collector's Edition] white
     
  14. G.v.P

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    COLLECTIVE BOOKS

    Norm. - Varies
    Col. - White (semi-rare)
    Ltd. - Orange (rare)
    1st Ed. - Black (rarest)

    1 A Treatise On The Lore of Gargoyles
    2 Alice in Wonderland
    3 Baldwin's Big Book of Baking
    4 The Book of Administration
    5 The Book of Circles
    6 The Book of Family
    7 The Book of Prosperity
    8 The Book of Ritual
    9 The Book of Spirituality
    10 The Book of The Underworld
    11 The Caverns of Freitag
    12 The Codex of Infinite Wisdom
    13 Crossbow Markmanship by Iolo Fitzowen
    14 Dilzal's Almanac of Good Advice
    15 The First Age of Darkness
    16 Hubert's Hair Raising Adventure
    17 Knights of Legend, Volume I
    18 Kodeks Benmontas (Administration)
    19 Kodeks Benommani (Prosperity)
    20 Kodeks Destermur (Underworld)
    21 Kodeks Kir (Circles)
    22 Kodeks Rit (Ritual)
    23 Kodeks Xen (Family)
    24 Logbook of the Empire
    25 The Lost Book of Mantras
    26 Of Dreams And Visions
    27 Plans for The Construction of A Hot Air Balloon
    28 Plant Lore
    29 The Quest of the Avatar
    30 The Second Age of Darkness
    31 Snilwit's Big Book of Boardgame Strategy
    32 Tangled Tales
    33 The Third Age of Darkness
    34 Warriors of Destiny
    35 Windwalker
    36 The Wizard of Oz
    37 Ye Lost Art of Ballooning

    I only have maybe 60% of them myself, but the above is thought to be the list.
     
  15. Harlequin

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    Yup, you can get it from the same quest.

    Of the 3 rare types, first editions are rarest, then limited, then collector's.
     
  16. G.v.P

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    Correct; all hunter quests give a book.
     
  17. Tina Small

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    I'd be happy to add more numbers to that old spreadsheet I started earlier this year to try to help determine which books/editions are the rarest.

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aj2lpjetLFwwdG5YZnltRXBnS1JLUDZpT3Q1eHJTQ0E&hl=en

    If you've been collecting the books, just cut and paste the list below into your own message. Then either highlight the whole list and click on the little "#" icon where you see the other message formatting buttons to "wrap" the whole list or do it manually by inserting a "CODE" command (should be in the square brackets though) at the top of the list and a "/CODE" command (again, needs to be in square brackets) at the end of the list.

    Once you have the clean list copied, just substitute the appropriate letter(s) on each line for the hyphens to indicate which edition(s) of each title you have. (F = First Edition, L = Limited Edition, C = Collector's Edition, and P = plain/normal edition.) All we're going for here is to know if you actually have a particular edition of a title, without tracking actual quantities. The bar graph under the second tab of the document will help show visually which editions of specific titles have been most elusive. One of the developers commented about a year ago that there's definitely one title that is rarer than the others. (My guess is that it is the "Third Age of Darkness" but I could easily be wrong.) I gave up a long time ago trying to track down that comment though. LOL Can't remember now who even made the comment.

    Code:
    F L C P
    
    - - - - 1 Alice in Wonderland
    - - - - 2 Baldwin's Big Book of Baking
    - - - - 3 The Book of Administration
    - - - - 4 The Book of Circles
    - - - - 5 The Book of Family
    - - - - 6 The Book of Prosperity
    - - - - 7 The Book of Ritual
    - - - - 8 The Book of Spirituality
    - - - - 9 The Book of The Underworld
    - - - - 10 The Caverns of Freitag
    - - - - 11 The Codex of Infinite Wisdom
    - - - - 12 Crossbow Markmanship by Iolo Fitzowen
    - - - - 13 The First Age of Darkness
    - - - - 14 Dilzal's Almanac of Good Advice
    - - - - 15 Hubert's Hair Raising Adventure
    - - - - 16 Knights of Legend, Volume I
    - - - - 17 Kodeks Benmontas
    - - - - 18 Kodeks Benommani
    - - - - 19 Kodeks Destermur
    - - - - 20 Kodeks Kir
    - - - - 21 Kodeks Rit
    - - - - 22 Kodeks Xen
    - - - - 23 Logbook of The Empire
    - - - - 24 The Lost Book of Mantras
    - - - - 25 Of Dreams and Visions
    - - - - 26 Plans for The Construction of A Hot Air Balloon
    - - - - 27 Plant Lore
    - - - - 28 The Quest of The Avatar
    - - - - 29 The Second Age of Darkness
    - - - - 30 Snilwit's Big Book of Boardgame Strategy
    - - - - 31 Tangled Tales
    - - - - 32 The Third Age of Darkness
    - - - - 33 A Treatise on The Lore of Gargoyles
    - - - - 34 Warriors of Destiny
    - - - - 35 Windwalker
    - - - - 36 The Wizard of Oz
    - - - - 37 Ye Lost Art of Ballooning
     
  18. Sevin0oo0

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    Great Job! Thank You for all your efforts
     
  19. Yalp

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    Tina,

    Since the last thread where we tried to identify these books, I've continued to collect. The 3rd Age of Darkness and Ye Lost art of Ballooning are the 2 I can't seem to get in any version. My updated list is below


    F L C P

    - L C P 1 Alice in Wonderland
    - L - P 2 Baldwin's Big Book of Baking
    - - - P 3 The Book of Administration
    - - - P 4 The Book of Circles
    - - C P 5 The Book of Family
    - - - P 6 The Book of Prosperity
    - L C P 7 The Book of Ritual
    - L C P 8 The Book of Spirituality
    - L C P 9 The Book of The Underworld
    - - - P 10 The Caverns of Freitag
    - - - P 11 The Codex of Infinite Wisdom
    - - C P 12 Crossbow Markmanship by Iolo Fitzowen
    - - - P 13 The First Age of Darkness
    - - - P 14 Dilzal's Almanac of Good Advice
    - - C P 15 Hubert's Hair Raising Adventure
    - - - P 16 Knights of Legend, Volume I
    - - - P 17 Kodeks Benmontas
    F - C P 18 Kodeks Benommani
    - L C P 19 Kodeks Destermur
    - - - P 20 Kodeks Kir
    - - C P 21 Kodeks Rit
    - - C P 22 Kodeks Xen
    - - C P 23 Logbook of The Empire
    - - - P 24 The Lost Book of Mantras
    - - C P 25 Of Dreams and Visions
    - - C P 26 Plans for The Construction of A Hot Air Balloon
    - - C P 27 Plant Lore
    - - - P 28 The Quest of The Avatar
    - - - P 29 The Second Age of Darkness
    - L C P 30 Snilwit's Big Book of Boardgame Strategy
    - - C P 31 Tangled Tales
    - - - - 32 The Third Age of Darkness
    F L C P 33 A Treatise on The Lore of Gargoyles
    - - C P 34 Warriors of Destiny
    - - - P 35 Windwalker
    - - - P 36 The Wizard of Oz
    - - - - 37 Ye Lost Art of Ballooning
     
  20. G.v.P

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    That's odd that you havent received ballooning. I have both ballooning and third age, so if you have the rest, that confirms the 37 normal.
     
  21. Tina Small

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    Yalp, I updated your totals. Thank you!

    G.v.P., do you want to post your information or at least confirm which editions of The Third Age of Darkness and Ye Lost Art of Ballooning you have so I can add that information?

    Any updated info for Pfloyd, Bliss Marie, or Warpig?

    It would be nice to get information from a lot of other people as well to confirm if there really are very few first edition and limited edition drops.

    Just based on the information people have already provided, first editions have never been seen for 28 titles; limited editions have never been seen for 20 titles; collectors editions have never been seen for 9 titles; and no one has seen a plain edition of The Third Age of Darkness.

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aj2lpjetLFwwdG5YZnltRXBnS1JLUDZpT3Q1eHJTQ0E&hl=en
     
  22. Lord Chaos

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    There's also the "Why am I paying 13 dollars a month for this?" Edition. :lol:
     
  23. Saunders

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    My tiny collection: NB 1st edition Wizard of Oz
    Code:
    F L C P
    
    - - - P 1 Alice in Wonderland
    - - - - 2 Baldwin's Big Book of Baking
    - - - - 3 The Book of Administration
    - - - - 4 The Book of Circles
    - - - P 5 The Book of Family
    - - - - 6 The Book of Prosperity
    - - - - 7 The Book of Ritual
    - - - P 8 The Book of Spirituality
    - - C P 9 The Book of The Underworld
    - - - - 10 The Caverns of Freitag
    - - - - 11 The Codex of Infinite Wisdom
    - - - - 12 Crossbow Markmanship by Iolo Fitzowen
    - - - - 13 The First Age of Darkness
    - - - - 14 Dilzal's Almanac of Good Advice
    - - - - 15 Hubert's Hair Raising Adventure
    - - - - 16 Knights of Legend, Volume I
    - - - - 17 Kodeks Benmontas
    - - - - 18 Kodeks Benommani
    - - - - 19 Kodeks Destermur
    - - - - 20 Kodeks Kir
    - - - P 21 Kodeks Rit
    - - - - 22 Kodeks Xen
    - - - - 23 Logbook of The Empire
    - - - - 24 The Lost Book of Mantras
    - - - - 25 Of Dreams and Visions
    - - - P 26 Plans for The Construction of A Hot Air Balloon
    F - - P 27 Plant Lore
    - - - - 28 The Quest of The Avatar
    - - - - 29 The Second Age of Darkness
    - - - - 30 Snilwit's Big Book of Boardgame Strategy
    - - - - 31 Tangled Tales
    - - - - 32 The Third Age of Darkness
    - - - P 33 A Treatise on The Lore of Gargoyles
    - - - - 34 Warriors of Destiny
    - - - - 35 Windwalker
    F - - - 36 The Wizard of Oz
    - - - - 37 Ye Lost Art of Ballooning
     
  24. Yalp

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    for a really good and accurate picture I should have, and everyone should have kept every book.. ;) but alas.. I've either thrown down so many of the plain books, sold off so many of the white collectors books which were duplicates for me.
     
  25. Tina Small

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    Saunders, thanks. I added your info.

    I agree, Yalp. I'm not even sure where my books ended up after I quit in July. I think a bunch of mine were on a boat on LA that I'm sure is long gone by now. It's silly that looking at that damn chart is making me feel like starting to play again just to do those darn quests to see which books I could get. Not that I want or need them or wouldn't just put them on another darn boat and let it sink too.

    *Sigh*
     
  26. Saunders

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    Ah, Tina, we all play for different and strange reasons. Who can say whether collecting information is a silly one? I wouldn't. :)
     
  27. Kylie Kinslayer

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    F L C P

    - - - P 1 Alice in Wonderland
    - - - - 2 Baldwin's Big Book of Baking
    - - - P 3 The Book of Administration
    - - - - 4 The Book of Circles
    - - - P 5 The Book of Family
    - - - - 6 The Book of Prosperity
    - - - P 7 The Book of Ritual
    - - - P 8 The Book of Spirituality
    - - - P 9 The Book of The Underworld
    - - - - 10 The Caverns of Freitag
    - - - - 11 The Codex of Infinite Wisdom
    - - - - 12 Crossbow Markmanship by Iolo Fitzowen
    - - - - 13 The First Age of Darkness
    - - - - 14 Dilzal's Almanac of Good Advice
    - - - P 15 Hubert's Hair Raising Adventure
    - - - P 16 Knights of Legend, Volume I
    - - - - 17 Kodeks Benmontas
    - - - P 18 Kodeks Benommani
    - - - p 19 Kodeks Destermur
    - - - - 20 Kodeks Kir
    - - - P 21 Kodeks Rit
    - - - - 22 Kodeks Xen
    - - - - 23 Logbook of The Empire
    - - - - 24 The Lost Book of Mantras
    - - Cx2 - 25 Of Dreams and Visions
    - - - P 26 Plans for The Construction of A Hot Air Balloon
    - - - P 27 Plant Lore
    - - - - 28 The Quest of The Avatar
    - - - - 29 The Second Age of Darkness
    - - - P 30 Snilwit's Big Book of Boardgame Strategy
    - - - - 31 Tangled Tales
    - - - - 32 The Third Age of Darkness
    F - - P 33 A Treatise on The Lore of Gargoyles
    - - - P 34 Warriors of Destiny
    - - - - 35 Windwalker
    - - - P 36 The Wizard of Oz
    - - - - 37 Ye Lost Art of Ballooning


    That's all for now. Also have 18 duplicate Normal ones, just in case anyone is trying to keep track of the rarity of C, L, and F drops.
     
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    Awe, this is why i ICQ'd you the other night too. You should come to Pac though :)
     
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    I gave away my normal books and didnt keep track but i thought i had them all. I know that doesn't mean anything now. Here is what i do still have though:

    F L C P

    - L C - 1 Alice in Wonderland
    - - - - 2 Baldwin's Big Book of Baking
    F - C - 3 The Book of Administration
    - - - - 4 The Book of Circles
    - L C - 5 The Book of Family
    - - C - 6 The Book of Prosperity
    - - - - 7 The Book of Ritual
    F L C - 8 The Book of Spirituality
    - L C - 9 The Book of The Underworld
    - - C - 10 The Caverns of Freitag
    - - - - 11 The Codex of Infinite Wisdom
    - L C - 12 Crossbow Markmanship by Iolo Fitzowen
    - - C - 13 The First Age of Darkness
    - - - - 14 Dilzal's Almanac of Good Advice
    F L C - 15 Hubert's Hair Raising Adventure
    F - - - 16 Knights of Legend, Volume I
    - - C - 17 Kodeks Benmontas
    F - C - 18 Kodeks Benommani
    - - - - 19 Kodeks Destermur
    - - - - 20 Kodeks Kir
    - L C - 21 Kodeks Rit
    - - C - 22 Kodeks Xen
    - L C - 23 Logbook of The Empire
    - - - - 24 The Lost Book of Mantras
    - L C - 25 Of Dreams and Visions
    F L C - 26 Plans for The Construction of A Hot Air Balloon
    F - C - 27 Plant Lore
    - - C - 28 The Quest of The Avatar
    - L C - 29 The Second Age of Darkness
    F L C - 30 Snilwit's Big Book of Boardgame Strategy
    - - C - 31 Tangled Tales
    - - - - 32 The Third Age of Darkness
    - - C - 33 A Treatise on The Lore of Gargoyles
    - - C - 34 Warriors of Destiny
    - - - - 35 Windwalker
    - - C - 36 The Wizard of Oz
    - - C - 37 Ye Lost Art of Ballooning
     
  30. G.v.P

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    Yeah sure after I eat something I'll post pics.
     
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    Oh my bad, I only have The Third Age of Darkness of those two :x.

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