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Reminder: Windows 'host' file

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Petra Fyde, Jul 2, 2012.

  1. Petra Fyde

    Petra Fyde Peerless Chatterbox
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    Everyone who added the login server address to their host file to connect must be sure to remove it or comment it out now that the problem is resolved.
     
  2. DevilsOwn

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    curious about ramifications of not doing so.... I did the fix when we had the trouble, logged in after things were repaired and there was no issue.. have not yet changed that line and still having no problems
     
  3. Petra Fyde

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    It will have no effect now - but if they move the log in servers in another 6 months or a year, the location will no longer be valid. Are you likely to be able to remember that far down the line that it is the cause of the problem? Or will you be uninstalling and installing the game and tearing your hair out because you can't work out why it won't connect?
     
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  4. DevilsOwn

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    :p uhhhh, Petra, you know me.... I'd be tearing my hair out!
     
  5. Speranza

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    AHAHAH! It's like you know us :)
     
  6. Zyon Rockler

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    Why is it not fixed. They should ask windows to fix it so it goes into google. They should rebuild the system so it will search. seems dumb to me that it can not look for it.. I would think if EA told them at microsoft they need to fix it they would. I mean if I can type it in a search box and find it..... That means no matter where they move it ,they could even change the name and it would look for UO.. The exe on uo should save the log in addy and change it for you by using the old one in a list like the old switch boards worked. Seems unreal they build an ONLINE game and cant even find a way to let ppl know where they are.

    Just goes to show how long a road we have.
     
  7. Petra Fyde

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    erm? It is fixed, but some people edited their host file to look for a specific ip address. They must now take that instruction out, because if the address changes that host file will prevent the new address being found.
     
  8. Zyon Rockler

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    why? Why would it stop it from finding the right one.
    That would mean it is not fixed because it could happen again >. Right?
    So then we have to edit the host file again.. Right? Just so we can conn.
    So the same thing happens again everyone comes on here says hey I can not get in.
    That is not fixed.. All they did was wait for the lights to come back on and say oh good now we do not have to fix it...

    Right?
     
  9. Petra Fyde

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    All this thread is for is to remind people to change back that file. What EA do about making sure it doesn't happen again isn't relevant here.
    IF they don't change the file back, and they move the server, that file will prevent their pc's from finding the new location.
     
  10. Zyon Rockler

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    I will fix it later but am not paying them if I can not conn.. Its not my job to edit files every other day..
    I was just trying to point that out. I am not the only one so maybe they can read this and some one will get it fixed before it happens again.
     
  11. PsychoKinetic

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    *looks confused*


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    Anyhow, thanks for the reminder Petra. The line has been commented out.
     
  12. IanJames

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    This has nothing to do with windows. It has to do with DNS refreshing across the Internet. Sometimes it takes awhile. Jeez do some small amount of research instead of flying off the handle.

    Thanks for the reminder Petra. I had already forgotten :)
     
  13. Zyon Rockler

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    Understanding SOA records

    To me this is a windows problem because you have to edit the windows Host file. If you do not the game crashes back to the desk top. The easy fix is to have two lines going in but they only have one host so when they lost that server anyone who would try to conn to it was dropped. Would it not be better if the host file could try again like making a phone call using other numbers to make the same call. So if you call and there is no answer or its busy or it is not there at all it will try to call other numbers..

    This would bypass the refresh rate. If you had to wait 6 hours to make the same call you can now call right away the same place with new number.. The thing is that there was no way to tell the conn where to hop to next so it just stopped and closed..... There was no way to reroute it on its own so when they try to fix it they could not because it is set up on a refresh rate timer. They also had no way to edit our host files in windows so we could have the new phone number that works..

    Its the same thing with the power if you break an electric line the power will go off and when you turn on your lights they will not go on.. If you had two lines and your box had a host file it could say oh I see no power here what about there.. Oh ok now we have power..

    I am not upset at all I think its kinda funny how they can not fix it but am not going to pay for something i can not conn to. Next time it might not just be one server block this effects the internet not just UO.

    I see it like someone Riding a bike down a steep hill am not the one who will be flying off the handle but you will see who will be next time. I can only say I hope someone will fix it before it happens again and even more severs are blocked and everyone is dropped to windows.
     
  14. Spiritless

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    Honestly Zyon Rocklet, you should probably avoid discussing things you evidently have a complete lack of understanding about. Right now you're getting worked up and portioning blame out where unwarranted because of your lack of knowledge on the topic. Several users have tried to tell you this but you keep forcing the issue for some reason despite your ignorance. Just accept from others who do know what's going on that this problem is nothing to do with Microsoft or Windows. EA already fixed the underlying issue and people merely made changes within Windows so they could get online quicker than what they normally would have done if they'd waited for the DNS addresses to propagate. Making these changes was never required; this was a bandaid fix which is better to now remove since it's served its purpose and may be detrimental in the future.

    This is a solid reminder and one everyone should heed who did edit their hosts file to prevent future issues. :)
     
  15. Zyon Rockler

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    What? I do not get paid to know things or to discuss things if you do not like what I have to say then do not read it.
    How dose what happen have anything to do with me at all? I am not worked up, I am not ignorant and I do not have a lack of Knowledge nor was anything I said unwarranted.. Why are you trying to make it like it was my fault? If you would like to talk about me why don't we meet in person? As far as stratics do not try to make me look bad the mods should act on this right away. I can not be leave they let ppl like you even post.. Attacking me for what? I was trying to say how I feel and have every right to do that. I do not care if what I said was all wrong. I do not get paid to be all right. It is up to the ppl who work for uo to make a statement not some BS about how I do not know what I am saying and that is why no one could play? LoL

    The fact is dear the game could not con and ppl had to edit a file IN WINDOWS to get it to work.. That is all there is to Know, dose not take anything more then that to be said about it.. All I said was I hope they fix it and i have to put up with all kinds BS for it.. That is just sad..
    Any how posted the link if you would like to learn about it from ppl who do know.. You can even call them and talk to them.. Real nice ppl. I will tell them you think they are a lack of knowledge also the internet seems lacking some of that.. MM maybe cause its using the current host file? Unreal. Why don't you talk about the fix for us they put in?

    I just hoped maybe we could learn from ppl what happens and they could tell us more about it.. I guess its fixed is good enough for ppl like me who lack in everything and do not know anything.. Its so good to know there are ppl in this world who know everything I will sleep much better knowing that.
     
  16. Shamus Turlough

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    Ok, let's all just relax. No need to get all worked up over such a minor issue.

    1. The fix involving changing your host file was not an 'official' fix by EA/Mythic, it was one discovered by a Stratics member and shared with the rest. It is not a fix, more a bandaid to be able to log on until it is fixed.
    2. In all the time you were on here screaming about not wanting to reverse this fix, it could have been done a hundred times over, and been done with.
    3. These kind of reactions only lead to people 'in the know' not wanting to share these temporary solutions for fear of getting flamed.

    In conclusion: Nothing to see here, move along, go play, and have fun. :)
     
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  17. Zyon Rockler

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    This is how I relax, talking and learning, researching.

    I don't know why anyone would be worked up. It's not even an issue to me. When UO goes down or the Internet, I play other games or do other things like posting on Stratics.

    I know changing the Host File was not a fix from your prespective but from mine it fixed the problem, therefore it was a fix. If it had not been done I would not have been able to connect. No one really cares about EA or what they do, our concern was connecting to the game. There are other issues that could come out of this as well, such as lag, and other things that the servers can cause but that's really not my problem to fix, that's more something that I experience.

    I already fixed my computer. I don't know why so many people have to assume so much about things. I edited my file, actually just switched them out and left the others alone. There's a folder on the desk top of each computer. So, if the problem ever happens again where the computers cannot connect, I will know immediately if the solution is to use the Host File because mine will connect or possibly there's will connect and mine will not. So, I will be ahead of the game. What's the difference if I do it now or later? So, I feel very confident in my decision. I do appreciate the reminders but I for 1 really don't need one but I will help by bumping this thread again.

    I have never run across a problem with Windows that I could not fix on my own, although, I have used Forums and talked to people. I don't have any kind of reaction at all. I mean look here I am talking on the Forums, i'm not afraid to be flamed, i'm not worried about being wrong. This is a place to talk about issues that have to do with UO. This Host File is very important. The Host File was originally used to keep a record. The new DNS automatically changes and searches from what I can gather from my experience, The Host File worked very well as a back up. I don't understand why we wouldn't want to discuss how something was fixed so easily but yet wasn't used initially as some type of back up plan.

    It seems alot of times people learn from books or go to school and they get this understanding of how things are and when they can't find it in their books or when they realize no one has ever taught them something that is being discussed, right away everyone thinks it's wrong. Maybe, people are just afraid of change, maybe people are just incapable of seeing something in their minds that does not exist or does not work in the way that they have learned that it should.

    So, you get all these assumptions of what those people must be like and rather than staying focused on the issue, they become focused on the person and they lose sight of what is truely the optimal, ultimate solution and rather than moving forward try to tear down the ideas with its' flaws rather than looking at things with a vision.

    So, it causes many years to pass before fixes are actually put into place where someone realizes this is the best way to do something. Eventually the ideas surface no matter what because they become a necessary change but in the mean time, we are slowed down because we think our understanding is superior to that of anyone else rather than working together, they try to separate from each other. I am not afraid to be flamed and i'm not worried about being wrong and i'm not upset, i'm more bewildered at human behavior and the growth of society. When I look at these systems, I find them very basic. It reminds me of a power grid, one that can actually change it's domain and the more research I do, the less I can find my lack of understanding.

    So, I thought, since we are talking about DNS and Host Files we might be able to bring some interest to the subject. You never know who is reading these boards and there are alot of people out there who find things ironic because they happen to be working on this particular thing right at the moment but with everybody being worried about my demeanor, it kind of derails that whole idea. Right away someone has to be right or someone has to be wrong, someone has to be in control and we lose out on an opportunity to advance but I guess these boards are just not ready to maintain a focus and I guess the Devs here and the people that work for EA will never actually be able to compete with the information that the internet provides. To me, it's more of an opportunity for them. I already have all the information at my fingertips and I have a vision that I was willing to share with them if they had answered some of my questions.

    There is no communication here, at least not on this subject. I appreciate the reminder and hopefully others will learn from it and I am so glad that EA has fixed the problems.
     
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    Oh lord......
     
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