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Remove Faction Item's From Siege Perilous Please!!

Discussion in 'UHall' started by SoulWeaver, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. SoulWeaver

    SoulWeaver King of The Bearded Ladies
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    Please remove the faction items from siege perilous and bring it back to normal or at least change the prices to normal shards so its not costing everyone hours and hours of farming and hours of farming gold to buy our suits back. It's better off if this is removed but a change will be sufficent as well....

    Please also nerf those darn Greater Dragons in PvP, its fine for PvM Reduce the damage done to people thanks!
     
  2. Leaf

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    I agree. The faction items have done more to hurt Seige then any good that could come from them. Just causes lots of drama that isn't needed. Some things are better left alone. Instead of adding items, they should fix the bug that doesn't allow Minax to change the prices in towns they own.
     
  3. TheScoundrelRico

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    No need to remove the items. Maybe just less whiney players. If they don't like the faction items...don't play in factions. If you want to run around in high end gear, wear the cursed or uncursed artis...same level of loss if you die, except those items can be worn by your killer...la
     
  4. Lord Kotan

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    This items on seige, when someone dies, stays on their corpse? and can be looted and not given back - right? so aren't they like normal artifacts on siege now, or is it the fact that people get mad their items were taken? or what? I'm not 100% for sure were the problem lies.
     
  5. TheScoundrelRico

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    It depends on who is doing the killing/looting. Personally, I looted quite a few items off of corpses and stolen some items too, but because the items can only be worn by the named player, they are only worth as much as that one player is willing to pay for them. It seems some people are taking the items and throwing them into the trash, so the other players in their guild will do the same. There are some players who will sell the items back, but they are asking for alot of gold and not budging on price. Then you have others who are sad that they have to farm silver to get these items. They want to PvP 24/7 and feel the only way they can compete is to wear this armor (even though that isn't the case)...la
     
  6. FrejaSP

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    I agree, remove the factions items and greater dragons from Siege.

    I have no chance for a fair fight vs a faction player and there is no way I'm going to join Faction.

    We are alot PvP'er who do not like Faction but as it is now, we have a mega disadvantage in PvP and it hurt Siege badly.
     
  7. TheScoundrelRico

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    Not true at all. There are plenty of non faction items you can wear if you wanted to fight someone in faction gear. You just choose not to wear arti suits. That is your choice. It's not like the faction items are blessed or insured...la
     
  8. FrejaSP

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    The faction items are better than the arti items and I'm not going to do weeks of PvM to get to PvP in them a day or two. Just like the faction players don't want to do a lot of farming to get their items.

    I really feel this items hurt Siege, lets get rid of them. Also they hurt crafters who sell less crafted items.
     
  9. Lord Gareth

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    If its a quick wont take to much time to do i'm all for it. If a Faction/G Dragon change just for Siege is going to take a good chunck of time then i'm against it.
     
  10. Bruin

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    Agreed, remove faction items from SP.
     
  11. Chad Sexington

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    Faction items on SP should be thrown in a trash barrel on sight. Problem solved.

    Everyone dies some time, right? Trash'em all, and all that silver farming will be for nothing.

    :grouphug:
     
  12. Nickster

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    I agree with chad......
     
  13. QueenZen

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    When doesn't any change take FOREVER to do...esp. for Siege ?

    Personally I do not PVP there on Siege ie crafter chrs. but I am growing tired of the DRAMA of this guild that guild this person of this or that guild refusing to sell back items or...trashin someones item$ and all the whining pithing and moaning over these special faction items. There probably are more players per capita on Siege IN factions than not in factions...even with less population than other shards may have...more of our smaller population ARE factioners so..it makes for a bigger mess there on Siege..for all of em.

    It really has reduced some to sounding like ................post AOS age of Item$ trammelites ...cuz the suits or pieces cost so darn much and they feel they need them to compete at all anymore........so it is just a fricken mess which sort of seems like these just do not belong on ........the harder shard..of vets...in an all fel ruleset. Get rid of the junk...........!! :)

    Let peace and harmony and normal trashtalkin and normal disagreements return or resume instead of whinning over.................pricey faction uber leet bs items on Siege. . it is tearing up what bit of good repore and *community* that is left on Siege...jealousy angst and arguing over STUFFS all the time since these were introduced on Siege. Meh ! ! ! Tells me those things probably ought to be more common or equalised or REMOVED period from Siege. Too much hissy fitting, more desparations more angst with many of em esp to loose said items.. since these came to be on Siege.

    But what do "I" know Ima just a crafter but these faction items seem to be tearing what is left of public repore apart on Siege...and that does not seem to be a good thing at all for Siege. :scholar:
     
  14. RichDC

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    I got an idea that could be fun...keep the faction items but remove the monsters from silver farming (only way to get silver is by PvP) that way they can use the items but wen they die (if people dont like them) they will have to play in regular armour/arties until they kill enough to buy the armour back!
     
  15. Righty

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    I have no problem with the faction arties. I used to mindlessly, endlessly, PvM before the faction arties to get HoTLs and fey leggings, etc. These faction arties are no different; mindless, endless PvM to get the better gear to wear in PvP. The only difference here is that a person is guaranteed to get silver every time they kill a faction monster. Not the case with the older system in which I would have to kill tons of monsters to get a paragon, then kill paragons in hopes to get a drop, and hope and pray that its a good artifact and not phil's wooden steed.

    Faction items are fun and allow for more exciting templates. My only suggestion would be instead of 5x the silver make the cost more along the lines of 2x or 3x(as it is with gold transactions).
     
  16. I agree that the current system on faction items sucks.

    But i am also of the opinion that silver should be usefull for something on a personal level, something good.

    Maybe faction potions

    something like faction heal pot 1000 silver?

    also maybe faction style robes and hoods

    +3 phys resist faction color robes for silver, (lootable, but only usable by factions, and change color based on who wears them?)

    Magic hooded shrouds, like the one that adds to stealth form oaks or w/e


    Would also be cool if we could faction dye any armor/weapon/deco and even pets!
     
  17. SoulWeaver

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    The main problem is like righty said its the cost of silver on siege is 5x more then normal prodo shards...

    That means it takes 5x longer to farm all the silver that we need for our suits... now if u want to run a good faction artied mage suit its almost 100k silver more or less...

    The other problem with silver farming is there is only one location for silver serpents that spawn fast enough to make farming worth it and thats blighted grove...

    The demons spawns are slow now and cant even compete to get as much silver as the serpents...

    The cost of these items are just making it more difficult and frurating for players yes they dont have to be factions but and can use cursed items but like someone else said Faction Items have been enhanced with better resists, better mods, and if the guy knows what he's doing you will die from his ability to get max hci,dci, di mr sdi lmc, etc.. etc..

    So either get rid of faction items on siege all togeather please or change the cost of items. I do agree with the person that said killing faction players for silver. I think this should also be increased 40 silver from a kill is nothing to what our items cost... Maybe we should get 1k per kill or something to that effect....

    Anyways hope E.A. is willing to do something for this cause.
     
  18. Kael

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    The faction items have no place on Siege imo
     
  19. archite666

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    id take removing greater dragons or fixing them first.

    I like the faction items as well, more templates.

    agree with righty, you will always have items to farm to get better, and back then we faction dyed all the arties so only faction could wear them anyway, its pretty much the same thing.
     
  20. SoulWeaver

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    I do agree i love being able to make differnt templates, but i really do think they should make it the same price as prodo. It'd be an easy fix for them to do in the next publish, patch, or server down... But yes remove those studpid dragon or at least lower the dmg on them!
     
  21. Tjalle

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    Agreed!

    Pls remove them from Siege...