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Renowned...wth?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Lord Chaos, Apr 13, 2010.

  1. Lord Chaos

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    Ok, haven't actually had any experience with any renowned creatures, but did bump into a renowned pixie (larger than the normal sized ones) and despite having a high end geared character with with legendary skills I was not moving its healthbar at all, but it was certainly pummeling mine despite having high DCI, 150 hp and all 70s resists.

    Are these supposed to be group only or is it just for tamers?
     
  2. Yen Sid

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    I do it with a Mystic/Mage/Weaver just fine. All of the Renowned in fact.
     
  3. BeefSupreme

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    Huh? The pixie takes me 4 minutes to solo..
    Same with pretty much all the others. I'm not a tamer.
     
  4. Lord Chaos

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    well, some battletips would be appreciated then, because just fighting toe to toe didn't work too well, and even with Consecrate and Enemy of One, its healthbar wasn't moving.
     
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    The renowned pixie has around 10k hit points and takes a long time to kill. It takes my disco tamer around 10 minutes using a greater dragon. Maybe you can try using a pixie swatter next time. The fey slayer will do more damage but it will still take a while to kill it.
     
  6. Freelsy

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    Used my sampire and it was a breeze....took about 5 minuts I believe, tops.

    120 swords
    120 parry
    120 bushy
    100 tactics
    100 resist
    100 necro
    60 chiv

    simply, honor, EOO, consecrate weapon and just LS'd it to death. I was using runeblades and not dashio's either.

    I believe the lowest my health got was 70 out of 148.
     
  7. Llewen

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    Now there's an unwarranted jab thrown in ignorance. There is nothing that a tamer can do in pvm with a pet, that a sampire can't do much faster, and with much less risk.
     
  8. Konge

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    That's kinda the thing that annoys me... everything is balanced for vs tamer and sampires... what about people who don't wanna play tamers or sampires? Make one or get a group? Kinda irks me... You complain about it, and you're jumped on by tamers saying sampires are worse and blah blah.

    I don't know, Just wish there was more I could do with my non sampire non tamer chars...
     
  9. Invalid

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    The second post in this thread makes your comment look pretty stupid.
     
  10. Lord Chaos

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    Well, the whole sampire crap is after my time, so no idea about it. But it sounds like a stupid combo.
     
  11. Konge

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    Not really, do you want me to amend it and say "Or mages" who can just spam summons or explode run away anything in the game?

    I want to be able to do something with a warrior, that isnt' a sampire. Your troll makes you sound pretty stupid. Now Shhsh.
     
  12. Lord Chaos

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    For once we agree.
     
  13. Invalid

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    Ya I do, and while you're at it, add ABC archers, pure pally warriors, whammys and any other template people use effectively that hurts your argument.

    Really? You just said a couple posts back you don't even know what a samp is. Pretty strong conclusion to come to considering you just said you don't know what they are or what they do.
     
  14. Lord Chaos

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    Nothing other than whats written in the warrior forum about it.
     
  15. Konge

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    Pure pally warriors? Really? No you have no idea what you're talking about. i classify whammies as sampires, they're essentially the same thing, just SS instead of necro.
     
  16. Aibal

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    The renowned pixie I have solo'ed on a sampire, abc archer, mystic/mage, necro mage, pure mage, bushido macer, and yes, even a pure paladin swordsman. They're really not that difficult, perhaps your armor/weapons/skills are lacking? Or perhaps this is just something else to whine about?
     
  17. Lord Chaos

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    I was asking a question, not whining about anything.

    And its clearly stated in the first post that the equipment/skills wasn't really lacking.
     
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    ANOTHER way to solo it is to drag some of the creatures from the undead to it as they will fight each other. I dragged over 10 green mummys to distract it while my dragon had at it.

    Lorddog
     
  19. Aibal

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    Well if the equipment/skills were not lacking, then the tactics obviously were the culprit.:mf_prop: The renowned's aren't Ogre Lords. Welcome to the Abyss, obviously your first time downstairs. Less time being a board warrior and more time in the Abyss and I'm sure you'll get it all figured out.:thumbup:
     
  20. Lord Chaos

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    Don't plan on spending too much time there, its boring. Was just curious about it.
     
  21. Aibal

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    I can see where getting your ass handed to you in PvM could get boring....
     
  22. Lord Chaos

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    Wasn't getting my ass handed to me, just noted I really wasn't doing any noticable damage to it, despite high damage numbers when hitting. So kinda gave up because I was bored of just wacking it.

    Not much fun down there yet, might arse myself down there for more imbuing ingrediences.
     
  23. Konge

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    Not all the renoweds are like that. Just the Ratmen, and the pixie for all I know (haven't fought them all).

    The wyvern is challenging, hits like a truck, dunno bought the HP, was messing with my Samurai's template so he wasn't able to actually fight back (trying to see how I could fit necromancy onto him without compromising how I like to play).

    The acid elemental is easy, goes down quick, so do the Goblins. Fire demon is easy on a tamer, on my non sampire samurai, wasn't able to effectively fight the fire demons to advance the spawn, partly because of lag causing me to miss time defensive moves such as Feint and the fact I wasn't using potions.
     
  24. maroite

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    Uhh... My bush archer and normal samurai can do renowneds with little to no trouble... and faster than my mage/tamer. lol
     
  25. Konge

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    Apparently you didn't read the whole thread, I wasn't referring specifically to renowneds. Also stated archers can do almost anything. -_-
     
  26. Freelsy

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    C'mon guys, we really know what Chaos wants. He wants to take his forensic evaluating/animal herding master down there and wtfpwn the spawn. If you cannot kill any renowned with a swarm of sheep and dogs there is seriously something wrong with this game...its obviously to hard.


    Can we get a nerf to these pixie renownds? They're way to hard. :sad4:
     
  27. Aibal

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    This statement:

    conflicts with your original post:

    Sounds like an ass whooping to me......:thumbup1:
     
  28. Aibal

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    Oh, and this

    certainly sounds like a whine to me.rolleyes:
     
  29. Lord Chaos

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    You have a reading problem.

    And again, you in special ed. class?
     
  30. omgmir

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    Pretty much.

    Thread summary:

    I went to abyss
    Found a renowned
    Hit it a couple times and it wasn't dead yet
    Nerf abyss it's too hard
     
  31. Lord Chaos

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    You don't have anything better to do than running around trolling every thread I make?

    either way, nowhere did I call for a nerf to the Abyss.
     
  32. Cetric

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    I KNEW IT!
     
  33. Aerodice

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    Many of the renowned bosses are easily soloed but some of them have a ton of hit points so they take a long time to kill. The ratmen renowned are very easy to kill as they don't do enough damage to merit being much of a threat. However, they take a good amount of time to kill because they have a good 50000 hit points.

    Your best bet is to use anything that will amplify your damage. Many renowned have slayer vulnerabilities. For the high hit point renowned bosses, you will either want to maximize your damage output by targeting their weakness or get a group to help you take it down.
     
  34. omgmir

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    Yes mate, everyone that disagrees with you is trolling. rolleyes:

    You need to go look up the definition of that word because i've yet to see you use it correctly.

    You don't want to see my replies? Quit posting new threads 5 times a day about stupid stuff.
     
  35. Picus at the office

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    If you have not build a sampire yet you are missing out. This game has been edged closer and closer to SPmmorpg for years and not having the best single player char to kill stuff single handedly is silly.
     
  36. Gowron

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    Wow! It's funny when someone complains about not being able to solo a monster, gets advice on templates to use, refuses to adjust by using said templates, and then goes back to complaining.

    The best part of this game is the ability to make whatever template you want to use, however, it comes at a price. There are some things that any template can't do.

    You chose your playstyle. Live with it, and quit whining, go back to playing the game.
     
  37. Petra Fyde

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    1) What weapon were you using?
    2) how much hci do you have
    3) How much damage increase do you have?
    4) The most important attribute may not be the character's, but the player's. How much patience do you have?
     
  38. gortman

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    Wow - I had no idea they had so many hit points. Haven't been to the Cavern of the Discarded yet so thanks for the info.
     
  39. Liquid_Ape

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    Just to make sure I understand, you don't want to change your template to match the current state of the game, you want them to change the game to match your template?
     
  40. Liquid_Ape

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    OK, I'll bite. What makes it a stupid combo?
     
  41. Lord Chaos

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    A Samurai Necromantic Paladin? Whats stupid about it? lol

    They should long have made it so certain skills like Necromancy and chivalry can't be used together.
     
  42. Lord Chaos

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    Except its a silly part of the game to require so many templates (and most of them require 720) for so many different things, the cost in PS (stat and skill) and gear is staggering. As far as I can see on a shammy it would easily cost 20+ million to make one properly, then add the time to actually take skills to legendary if you don't use a certain program that most of UO uses.
     
  43. Liquid_Ape

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    It is one of the most effective PvM templates in the game right now, but it is stupid because Lord Chaos thinks that Necro and Chiv don't belong on a template together? lol you win! I'll delete mine! I don't think item insurance belongs in UO, so everyone stop insuring your items!!!!! Lol its stupid!
     
  44. Konge

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    You miss the entire point completely, you see, you're supposed to read all the posts, then make a witty reply, because if someone else already said it, and their witty reply was debunked , then you just look stupid.

    I said simply, I just wish I could do more with my non-sampire warrior. Didn't ask for a nerf to anything. I stated my opinion. You need to take a reading class or something, or at least have the paitence to read more than one post and go "OH MY GOD, NO ONE COULD HAVE POSSIBLY ALREADY STATED THIS! I'M SO GOING TO LOOK COOL."
     
  45. omgmir

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    From a RP perspective he has a point. Too bad as soon as you realize that, you realize it's being delivered from a guy unironically named Lord Chaos and that just leads to a /facedesk.
     
  46. Konge

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    You miss a lot of points don't you?

    I believe the point Chaos is trying to make is that Necromancy and Chivalry oppose each other, thus, using both should nerf each other as they're opposing each other. Necromancy sort of nerfs chivalry by lowering Karma which is the backbone of chivalry, but Necromancy never received a hit for having Chivalry.

    And before you troll, or do your witty reply that makes you cool, I'm not asking for it to be changed.
     
  47. Lord Chaos

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    Having Necromancy and Chivalry makes no sense, not even gamewise. And as can be seen it apparently leads to a bit overpowered templates to say the least.

    Either way, its just stupid and either way, you're welcome to your shammy, though of course then you'll be one of those people who whine about the game being too easy and then we get more and more powerful mobs until only the most tight templates can even exist.
     
  48. Liquid_Ape

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    You said, "I want to be able to do something with a warrior, that isnt' a sampire. "

    How can you do more with a warrior that isn't a sampire? If you won't consider other templates, one of two things is going on here:

    Either, a) you are just complaining about things without a solution in mind or b) the game should somehow change to make non-sampire warriors be able to do more.

    If you are just complaining but don't want anything to actually change, how exactly does that help anything?

    If you do, in fact, want the game to change so non-sammy warriors are more effective, then please say how so?

    As for the ad hominem attacks, thanks! This is my first time posting here, so thanks for showing me how to do this the right way.
     
  49. Picus at the office

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    By the time I get to 8200 posts I'm gonna be a Kaziliiaonare.
     
  50. Cetric

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    wow for real, how do you have 8200 posts in 2 years? i thought i posted alot... guess not lol