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Request for love for fishers

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Gem, Jan 19, 2009.

  1. Gem

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    Now that thieves have gotten a little love with the new balms, etc.
    how about some for fishers?

    Easy things that could be done:

    Give the little peculiar fish etc. a better/longer effect span so they are actually USEFUL--like 30 minutes. The we could start selling them rather than dumping them.

    New/different shipwreck loot. maybe even retire some of the old stuff.

    New ingriedents to fish up. Pearls were a great addition!

    And don't get me started on bigger things on the wish list :)
     
  2. Jirel of Joiry

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    /Agreed Fishers need loving. Better fished chest loot would be a good start.
     
  3. Maggie

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    I would be happy with the longer timer on the fish and the sos loot can be the same but have the librarians collect them. I donate my fish and scales to the library and my fisher gets far more points fromt he animal tamer collecter than the fisher collector. If something is taged recovered from a shipwreck we should be able to turn in.
     
  4. Destiny<3

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    Please!!! :)
     
  5. Pasquinade

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    /Signed!

    Give me a reason to use my fisherwoman more, please.

    I like the idea of having a much longer timer on the special fishies, or mayhaps give them a use in cooking!!!!!!
     
  6. It Lives

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    I would Like to See the new skill in sa using messes of fish for unraveling and a good amount of new content for fisher folk. Maybe something in Ilsh. oooH paragon sepents!:)
     
  7. jelinidas

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    :eek:snap:
     
  8. New boats would be nice. Perhaps improveable ones, like frostwood making them go faster, or combine a cannon deed to get firepower, or to have a hatch of sending (powered by powder of translocation natch).

    And darnit, get rid of the footwear.
     
  9. MalagAste

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    The footwear was somewhat humorous the first few times you pulled some up.... however after you have 200 pairs on your deck the humor wears off....

    I have long said that changes to fishing and treasure hunting need to take place.... these are two really neat and highly ignored fun things to do in game... there is so much wasted potential...
     
  10. Gem

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    Maybe footwear turn-ins at the Library??? (I used to always name my ships either The Imelda Marcos or the H.M.S. Florsheim!)

    I love the boat ideas, but figured I'd keep the requests simple....but then I have always dreamed of dyeable sails :)
     
  11. Spelosty

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    I agree fishing needs help. New boats would be fun....
     
  12. Borric

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    Yes. Give some love to fishers.

    I'd like to see new colors to "Big Fish" that transfer thru to the taxidermy kits. I'm kinda sick of green and blue as the only two colors and that changes depending on which way you face the fish (East=green South=blue).

    ...

    And stop the footwear. Usually my pack holds about 300 stones of footwear that only sell for 100gp for the whole lot.

    My offer still stands, bring me you named big fish and I'll pay to mount them on my wall!
    Great Lakes - 7o, 13' N x 34o, 35' E
     
  13. Basara

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    Even making the small fish the equivalent of the Rose of Trinsic (something I've repeatedly suggested) would be a good start.

    Adding any of the "recovered from a shipwreck" items to the collection would work as well.

    One could also make sea serpent scales donatable to the Fisher, just like they are to the Animal trainer.
     
  14. Lia

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    I'd like to see all those fish that no one wants in aquariums any more be able to be added to the water tiles in our houses. I'd LOVE to have animated life-like pools.
     
  15. Karthcove

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    Move the footwear to shallow water only.

    Have a very rare chance at getting "Ship plans" in an SOS chest. Same designs as currently available but the new ship could have a bigger hold which can carry more items/weight and could also have a chance of being made from heartwood, blood or even frostwood.
     
  16. Fifi LaForge

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    So many great ideas. I love the idea of turning in shipwreck items to the library collection. I've been turning in fishsteaks forever and still don't have nearly enough for anything decent. Talk about low point value..sheesh!

    We have been given the occasional nice item like white/colored nets and pearls, but that's about it.

    There is an interest in game to play pirate characters or buccaneers. Give us a bit more substance. Something more than the solid blue ocean and endless footware. What kind of pirate beats people to death with his shoe? How about a water dungeon? Can only be entered with a boat and must be navigated with a boat. How about craftable rafts for tourneys and races? Or perhaps being able to craft a captains chair from fished up pillows and staves? Or how about a specific place, like off the shore of some island where the waters are more dangerous, filled with kraken and serps for the times when a fisher needs more challenge? Give us some puzzles and scenarios.

    Please don't let fishing become a dying activity. Give us some love and I'll give you my shell collection. Thanks for listening.
     
  17. Oriana

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    You know you've got my backing. Anything to bring out more in these very neglected skills.
     
  18. Karthcove

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    And these special fishing locations require at least 70 fishing skill to enter, much like the need for 70 magery to enter Wind.
     
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    The footware is just fine. I fill those very game unbalancing footware BODs.
    There was the one mention of Ish Fishing and that would be great. Like mining with a gargoyle pickaxe. Doing it in Ish makes it all the better. Paragon chest from a Val eli lets you know how bad your miner really is. Just need to make scale producing cretures in paragon for give paragon gold scale. Have two random high resist and 60 Luck for armor.

    Back on the fishing there could be the added rare recipe items for that overused carpentry skill to make a series bow deco. Something besides the dragon. How about fishing being enhanced by other skills like cooking and taste ID allowing net fishing. 2-5 cast more based on three skill levels. Pulling 5 serps on cast could make those scripters less competitive then those of us that reaaly play the game by using that mouse devise. The big fish pulled up worth 5 point per stone to the library.
     
  20. Gem

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    With all these fabulous ideas...how can they possibly not take some of them and run with them ? *grins*
     
  21. hawkeye_pike

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    If I remember correctly, the Developers posted maybe half a year ago that they were looking into making fishing and treasure hunting more interesting. I remember that very clearly, as I decided to make a Fisheman and Treasure Hunter right after this announcement.

    It probably still is on their to-do list, but they may be busy with the upcoming events and the Stygian Abyss release.
     
  22. Borric

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    I forgot one.

    Explosion potions should be a viable means of fishing.

    :thumbsup:
     
  23. zorrah

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    I absolutely positively LOVE to fish, though I have to admit that there are times when I need to take a break as it does get a *tad* monotonous.

    I have come and gone from UO a few times now, always to play another game (and yes, if fishing is a possibility in that 'other game', my character fishes, dammit!). And every time I come back for a variety of reasons, but the one reason that is always first and foremost in my mind when I return is the ability as a player to customize. Whether it is customizing the clothes and armor you wear by dying them, your house by decorating it, or your time by going out and running around for hours killing bunny rabbits or slaying monsters or chopping wood or exploring cities or, heaven forbid, going out on a ship for hours to fish. I almost always walk away from my time in UO feeling fulfilled and entertained.. though the times that I do not feel this way is generally after a long trip at sea. ;)

    Players, bravo on the wonderful ideas put forth here. I love 'em! They show the creativity, ingenuity, and intelligence that is so commonly found amongst players in this game.

    Devs, please (at least) take some of the ideas listed here into consideration. For the most part, they are based on the principles of gameplay that UO players are attracted to, and it is those reasons why we keep coming back to this wonderfully complex and enjoyable game. Well.. those of us who leave in the first place, anyway ;)
     
  24. gummy460

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    Oh man devs please listen to this post
     
  25. Surgeries

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    /Signed.

    There are some awesome ideas in this thread, I must say!

    :please: Devs :hug:
     
  26. Doireann

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    What about just plain fishing up some artie? Not having to kill a leviathan but maybe, at gm, one has a chance for something unique and fun to pop into one's pack. I'd love to see fun things, maybe even a fancy shirt that is from a dead pirate or maybe a noose from a hanged pirate? Or perhaps odd things like clams or lobsters. Something we'd lock down in our boat house for fun.
     
  27. Gem

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    Wonder if a developer might actually answer us?
     
  28. Maplestone

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    I found it interesting that the application for the EM program used a fishing event as an example.

    assorted suggestions:
    - use spring cleaning points as a guide to spice up the fishing collection (also add aquarium rewards as donatables)
    - have different types/materials of fishing poles have different risk-levels ("gargoyle's fishing pole", or "bait" that can be made from small fish )
    - fishing holes/whirlpools (have locations that can fish up a number of creatures before being exhausted)
    - ghost ships (ruined ship sitting on the ocean, opening the hold might reveal treasure, bandits, skeleteons or a kraken)
    - replace deep sea shoes with aquarium fish.
    - a craftable that uses conch shell as an ingrediant to make a special horn
    - swallowed by an invulnerable gaint whale: drydocks your boat and deposits you in a small dungeon "inside" the whale
    - "castaway" escort quest (NPC adrift at sea on a log who can be rescued)
    - deep-ocean champion-spawn-like-place (takes many fisherman many casts to pull up the ulimate spawn)

    I would avoid adding random uber-monsters as fishing has tended to be a relaxing occupation - if someone wants to pull up something bigger than a serpent, either use special bait or another facet, etc

    (looking forward to seeing if the SA client has improved upon KR's boat motion and fix aquarium gumps)
     
  29. Basara

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    For that matter, they need to change the library donations to work LIKE the Spring cleaning, for items that have to be donated one at a time. Keep the current menus for the stacks of items, but allow the non-stackables to be donated via dropping on the NPC. It would sure allow those of us that aren't scripters to donate in a less painful matter (I donated 40 completed treasure maps last night - that was a pain).
     
  30. mutau

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    Paragon Krakens or Para Leviathans. I can see the gray screen already. LOL
     
  31. mutau

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    I think there some sea serpent scales that don't stack with the same color value scales. Those 'rare' scales should be like uber rare for points and have a higher turn-in value, other than just the 20 point for any scale.

    i love the idea of having the shipwreck loot as turn-ins at the library collection!
     
  32. Gem

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    I didn't know the EM application used a fishing event as an example. At least that means someone knows we exist!


    Great ideas...I especially like the ghost ship!
     
  33. Esmeralda

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    /signed

    New boats, or a chance to customize the excisting ones would be great too!

    Hmm what about a house boat?
     
  34. Harlequin

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    Having a fisherman/t-hunter, can I sneak in a request to have my fishing pole act like the telekinesis spell? Esp when trying to set off traps...heh

    I am a GM fisherman, I should be skillful enough to cast my hook to latch onto the treasure chest lids and open them, latch on to doors and open them, trigger switches etc :D
     
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    I would love that too. I can see unattented macroing could be a problem in Trammel, so maybe make the best drop happen in Felucca. If in Trammel, best drop will be where most sea monsters are. In Felucca, PK's will add the risk, so monster free places would be ok too.
     
  36. Borric

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    What if they put a context menu on fishing poles?

    Set to fish footware
    or
    Set to NOT fish footware

    Like a mining pick/shovel.
     
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    Hmmm ... I would say, lets start with something smaller ...

    - What about different graphics for big fishes? Tuna, Shark, Swordfish, Ray would be a start
    - Give small fishes a use. Maybe make them ingredients for lures/lure-like buffs. Give those that use lures a (higher) chance to fish up monsters. (Not necessarily those with todays fishing rewards but maybe normal serpents, krakens, water elementals. Maybe with a slim chance to have something very special on them like a minor tokuno arty or an alacrity scroll.)
    - Let us rarely fish up new clothes for fishers (they should require fishing to wear). Maby from shipwrecks?
    - What about an/some armour sets for fishers-only? (Like those from the last spring-ticket system. But have them require fishing for wearing.)
    - If pou would allow artefacts to be fished up occasionally ... make them for fishers only.
     
  38. Karthcove

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    Unattended macroing would be just a bad in Fel. Drops would need to be in chests from mibs or when you pull up the deep sea serp, something arbitrary you need to be awake for.
     
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    I love fishing but we really could use some improvements. We definitely need different prechest loot. There's so many ways to improve fishing. Please devs, hear our pleas. :bowdown:
     
  40. kaio

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    Would be nice to see some kind of peerless-fish boss or something.
    For keys, to keep it in peerless perspective. U should hand in colored fishing nets, and perhaps some other junk to get say access to the underwater cave, where such a boss might live?
     
  41. stigand

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    I totally agree! I was playing back in the renaissance days, and the one thing that was always talked about and NEVER done was making a pirate expansion! This would obviously would include fishing and it is something that fits in so well with ultima it is surprising that nobody at Origin or EA ever put it into the game! If anyone here played Ultima 7, this game's grandfather, they would remember good times exploring the ocean finding dead pirates and old treasure. Another thing they should add it better ship to ship combat. At the moment only a mage or an archer can be effective on a ship. There should be ways for a swordsman to board an enemy ship and fight the occupants. As for fishing, having more useful fish consumables and possibly consolidating fishing and all this into one sailing skill would be best.
     
  42. FTLOG...please just add fishing loot (nets, pearls, those little fish, soaked footwear) to the library community collections already. Please?
     
  43. Gem

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    So many fantastic ideas! You can see that we have much time available for daydreaming whilst we are out there fishing :)

    Surely one or two might catch the imagination of the developers?
     
  44. Mysterylabs

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    I vote for adding to library collection. Anything to draw me back to fishing would be a plus! I have not fished for a long time and it was one of my more favorite activities.