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Request: Issues with HIGH SEAS fishing

Discussion in 'UHall' started by B_Barracuda, Oct 19, 2010.

  1. B_Barracuda

    B_Barracuda Guest

    I hope that the game developers will read this.

    I've been grandmaster fisher for a long time, and I was very much looking forward to the fishing enhancements coming with the HIGH SEAS booster. I've been fishing ever since its release. There's been a lot of discussion about fishing on these boards, maybe we should put them into one thread.
    Here's my feedback (positive things first):

    • The new fish types are fantastic and well done.
    • The new feature of crab and lobster fishing is great.
    • The new ships look really really great and work perfectly!
    • I noticed that an area cannot be fished empty anymore. Is this intended? I can fish at the same spot forever.
    • Crab and lobster fishing is tedious because the traps disappear too often. The tediousness is somewhat reducet due to the facts that spots cannot be fished empty anymore.
    • The fishing quests are good, but due to above issue I hate it when I get a lobster/crab quest. It is demotivating having to work for 3 hours in order to get a book as a reward!
    • It seems that if you get a quest, the chance of fishing or catching requested creature is reduced.
    • Make lobster traps craftable by a carpenter.
    • The lack of fishing powerscrolls is not comprehensible. Even after a couple of dozend fishing quests I got not even a 105 powerscroll. I think fishing powerscrolls should come much more easily. It is easier to get a 110 magery or swords scroll, or a 120 imbuing scroll, than it is to get a 105 fishing scroll. Even after the chances of getting one have been increased. Is this intended? Fishing is not a powerful skill which would be subject to balancing issues! I don't want to be legendary fisherman in a day, but at least I'd like to have the chance to improve my skill while doing all those long-winded quests.
    • I love the new ships! Can you consider publishing a fisherboat as a new ship type? Smaller than Tokuno Ships so we can access the fishmonger docks more easily. 1 or 2 cannons would suffice. Large hold (20,000 stones). Maybe with a fishing net feature that we can throw out into the water.
    • Consider to reduce the amount of fished-up boots the higher your fishing skill gets. (I love the idea in general, but there are too many of those boots!)
    • Introduce better rewards for legendary fishermen. The current trophies and rare fish are not really triggering our enthusiasm. Maybe some new deco items, or add-ons to ships (like a fishing-net mountable to a cannon slot that would fish up 2 items at the same time), something like that.

    Thanks for reading this!

    Edit: I find the fish weight ok; the hull of my boat can hold 16,000 stones.
     
  2. Silverbird

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    Lobster traps - It seems to me that those have a lifespan of 5 catches. Once this is exceeded, the trap sinks. Please change it in a way, that it doesnt sink, but that it breaks on emtiing it. maybe with a saying like: 'You realise that this trap is too used and throw it away.' I really HATE it, when trap gets pulled down after 3-4 *bob*. its not the lost trap that I cry about, its the lost custodeans.
    I already mentioned in another thread ... but twice might be better. :D I hope there has no glitch sneaked into this rewards/ps system. With latest changes we need at least fishing skill of 106 to get monger quests for dungeon fishes. And if you need such a quest before you get a 110 or higher, we are into trouble.
    Legendary fishing - I dont think, that we actually dont know all side-effects of 120 fishing. So asking now for more seems to be a bit too early for me.
     
  3. B_Barracuda

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    I am sure that traps have no lifespan. Some of my traps sank after the first attempt, others I used 10 times. Also, you can put a used trap (if it faces in the correct direction) back on a stack of new traps, which wouldn't be possible if traps had some kind of hidden lifespan attribute.
     
  4. Spellbound

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    Fishing feels quite tedious now after a week on the waves. I've amassed 1527 uses of fish baits (including reaper fish, lava fish, and blue lobster), 3 lava poles and 4 lava lobster traps, multitudes of books #'s 1/2/4, and a single book #3. I'm cursing the fishmongers have demanded snow crabs in half of my last ten quests. Even with their blind need for chionoecetes and several 6 part quests, I have not declined any quests for fear of losing hard gained loyalty. Reading the boards of others with 2 powerscrolls awarded already is encouraging. Yet, even a 105 eludes me. Feels like Doom arties jinx all over again.

    One question...Does one have to get a 105 ps before the chance for a higher level scroll?

    *goes off to rub the lucky statue and trap more snow crabs*
     
  5. Yalp

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    I am not enjoying the fishing quests much anymore. After how many dozens of quests, 60+ the (105!) PS eludes me. The lobster traps are a pain in the arse..too high of failure on them and all I do is run around clicking like a madman. I am getting carpel tunnel and have had to change the batteries in my wireless mouse multiple times now. I enjoy the new fish being found in differing locations... but with 56 new fish I feel buried by sheer numbers, it takes hours to get just 10 that your need.. god help you if you have a multi part quest. Not so fun. I have a grand total of 1 Lava trap, 0 Lava pole, 0 PS, Bait (too many to count, thank god they stack), and Book 1x3, Book 4 x3. I have made more yellowtail barracuda steaks than I can count. I do look forward to fishing up the other legendary fishes to make the special pies.

    I tried capturing the pirates a grand total of 1. The costs of resources to repair a ship that is damaged (too fast) is too expensive for my tastes. It took more than 2 hours to make all the required canon firing items... not including the time I needed to get saltpeter (fixed issue now). I fought a Corgul 1 time. The duration it took to get it dead was 1.5 hours (4 of us). The sash was meh. I've been part of a group that threw 5 nets to get the scalis ..nothing popped.

    In all.. I like the ideas of the booster.... the execution has been flawed. There are more fun things in the game I enjoy doing.

    Would I recommend people spend their hard earned money to get the booster pack? Not unless they were the kind of people that like to stare at a screen clicking until their fingers went numb.
     
  6. Risso

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    Oh lawdy lawd, 10k worth of cloth and boards is much too expensive, nevermind you get 10k as a reward anyway :p
     
  7. Martyna Zmuir

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    As an aside with the crabs and the lobsters, it would be nice if cooks could, well, cook them.

    Right now there is no use for crabs/lobsters beyond the quests and a trophy or two. If Sosarian chefs have yet to discover how tasty these crustaceans can be, it’s time to teach them! But that begs the question, what are the fishmongers doing with them if they can't be eaten?
     
  8. Basara

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    Was the change that broke "Target Relative" in UOAssist accidental (as a result of other changes) or deliberate (to deal with other programs that abuse it in other ways)?

    Any chance we could get that ability as a macro in the clients? It's VERY useful for fishing (and was the only way I even used that UOA macro type).

    And, what about the fish weights? 10 stones each is a pain.

    And, I'm glad someone listened at town hall, about the messes of small fish.
     
  9. Thav12

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    But it seems you don't need it anymore. You can now fish in one spot. just make a macro with ten fish last targets and repeat times 10. that gives you 100 attempts at 9 seconds each. 900 seconds is 15 minutes. one click per 15 minutes is not bad... This is in the modern client that everyone should be using of course...
     
  10. Yalp

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    Yeah... how long do you figure it takes to chop 10k in wood?

    10K in reward split ... I got all of 1400 gold myself. Far more efficient ways to get gold.
     
  11. Lord Frodo

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    UOAssist has not been updated to accept the new booster yet. Still works for the most part.
     
  12. Silverbird

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    I am not shure about that one, but I just got another 105 fishing ps. I am already at 105 fishing and it was a 6-part-order (10 apple crab, 10 fred lobsters, 15 black seabass, 20 cobia, 15 amberjack, 10 red grouper). It was my 82'th delivery.
    I really need a higher ps. rolleyes: Seems like I should start and try to collect enough 105's to build a 110.:sad3:
    Btw there are scrolls around, that got not reported here. Someone on europa tries to sell a 105 on a luna vendor for 10 mills. Its definately not worth that much gold!
     
  13. Basara

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    Previous game updates, even when we had to wait for a UOA update, haven't broken "Target Relative" before.
     
  14. hawkeye_pike

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    I think "Target Relative" is something that doesn't exist in the EC at all. Am I right?
     
  15. Merion

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    I agree, that was the only reason I did not uninstall the Classic Client before.

    True, but it would be nice if you could fish with a one-button-macro while cruising from one port to another - what one is doing a lot with the new quests.


    You're right. But I would really wish for it, if only for fishing. Or just add fishing poles to "target by resource".