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Returning vet, needs help for a Sammy Template

Discussion in 'UO Warrior' started by Bloodeye, Nov 8, 2007.

  1. Bloodeye

    Bloodeye Guest

    Hi Folks,
    im playing since the beginning of Uo but paused 3 Years.
    Im a bit out of date and read much in the forum and figured adding bushido to my template, could help my dexxer get back into action.
    I saw some nice Screens of soloing heavy stuff with the right suit and the right template. As getting a right suit is for me not the problem, but do a good template is something else, i would ask for youre advice.

    But anyway.
    My Dexer has currently:
    120 Fencing
    120 Tactics
    120 Anatomy
    90 healing (droppel to make space for chival and parry, but capped to 120)
    100 Resist
    80 chival
    90 Parry (with an item i get 100)

    I use him for PVE and PVP, thats the reason why i got Resist.

    I now would like to add bushido and a bit of necro, for vamp thing.

    Im up to dropp or raise anything. not a prob, so just help me plz

    Best Regards
     
  2. Valhakar

    Valhakar Guest

    You will need 120 parry and 120 Bushido for PvP.

    Havign Chiv, healing, and Bushido is extremly reduntant. You need to ask yourself are you going to be a low mana, hard hitting melee or a balanced stat melee with mana regen.

    Brute force, lose the chiv and go with healing. Focus on stamina regen

    Balanced, lose Healing and dump some anatomy points. Focus on mana regen.

    My target build is VERY hard to play, but when it all synchs he tears through mobs like tissue paper. I am only at 83 Bushido and have no power scrolls yet, but I have dropped healing to get used to the build.

    Target build

    Anatomy 90 (Only here for DPS bonus)
    Bushido 120
    Chivalry 75 (all you need for EoO)
    Fencing 110
    Magic resist 110 (bumped to 120 in the PvP suit)
    Parrying 120
    Tactics 100

    The total is 725 (735 with MR item), so I will need to find an item with one of the skill +5. This build will be very equipment dependent, but once done will mow through spawns and be the bane of every mage out there. [​IMG]
     
  3. Bloodeye

    Bloodeye Guest

    All right.
    So Necro for this Vamp thing, isnt worth the points?
     
  4. Valhakar

    Valhakar Guest

    You could, but you would have to gut Anatomy.

    I have 4 soul stones, so my experimenting is fairly painless. For example, I may decide to lose the magic resist (use 30 tinker skill dart trap boxes to break para), and rely on the suit resists to protect me as well as the mana free healing.

    Anatomy 100
    Bushido 120
    Chivalry 75
    Fencing 120
    Healing 90 (never fails)
    Parrying 120
    Tactics 100
    725 total points

    If you use soul stones you can have one trade mule, one resource gathering mule, and one skills mule. I have one poor guy with a weird mix of unmatched skills.
     
  5. Bloodeye

    Bloodeye Guest

    What if i take out of parry and bushido 5 points each. So 115/115 and 10 out of Anatomy, so i have 20 free Points.

    I Could spend them for 20 Points in Necro, to get it with jewelry high enough, to cast wither, for the mana leech and curse weapon.

    Then i could use a fast life leech weapon and would still have a decent mana leech with the wither form.
     
  6. Valhakar

    Valhakar Guest

    You are getting into Necro territory, which I cannot comment on. Haven't tried it.
     
  7. Bloodeye

    Bloodeye Guest

    hehe,

    maybe some other can help.

    I was wondering about a good Wraith Form Template, though i dont like to buff up my skills to 99 for the vampire form.

    I could go for 40 necro, to use wraith and curse weapon

    and use a high mana/ll weapon
     
  8. Jolt

    Jolt Adventurer
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    The amount of mana leech in wraith form and duration of curse weapon is dependant on your Spirit Speak.

    At 0 SS the benefits will be negligable, and far outweighted by being able to ride a swampy and spam conc weapon.

    If you want to use some of the necro stuff then you'll need a bigger investment of skill points.
     
  9. Bloodeye

    Bloodeye Guest

    Im opened for any template.

    I dont know about healing, i saw some templates without it, but i want to do pvp aswell and i dont know if i can keep myself alive w/o healing

    I can drop Anatomy and Tactics
    to space for other skills

    maybe 40ss/40necro
    enough for a decent leech?
     
  10. Jolt

    Jolt Adventurer
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    Personally I'd take it upto around 60SS to make it worth your while. A template like:

    120 Weapon
    120 Parrying
    120 Bushido
    100 Anat
    90 Healing
    70 Chivalry
    60 SSpeak
    40 Necro

    Obviously there's no tactics there, so you're dealing less damage and don't have access to the weapon specials (whirlwind is awesome for a samurai), but otherwise I think it would work. You could drop healing, but the healing from bandages is extremely useful. The primary strength of these samurai templates is their durability, this is due in part to their different ways of regaining health.

    If you were specifically looking at the build that people are using to solo peerless and dark fathers, the vanilla Sampire build seems to be something like:

    120 Weapon
    120 Parry
    120 Bushi
    85 Anat
    85 Tactics
    90.1 Healing
    75 Chiv
    25 Necro

    Not that exact build, you can shift around a few points from tactics to anatomy or visa versa, but that's it roughly. Obviously in order to get into vamp form you'll need the +necro gear. The +30 jewelry, the totem and the grimore aren't too hard to get hold of. Cursed midnight bracers aren't too hard to get at the moment either given the invasion. The last item you'd need would be the necro/ss flavoured mark of travesty which IS hard to get hold of and is quite expensive. For this reason if you want to adopt this build you might want to borrow 9 extra points from tactics or something to take your necro to 34 instead.

    It's a good build because you can do decent damage and retain all the other features of the standard samurai build. Vamp form has a lesser life leech in it, as well as the poison immunity, mana regen and the ability to stay mounted and keep the swampy.
     
  11. Bloodeye

    Bloodeye Guest

    Thank you very much.
    I will try both builds with some soulstones, i have currently quite enough cash to get everything i need for items.

    One last question.

    For the both forms, Wraith and Vampire

    On which weapons i should focus? Im a Fencer! I personally would go with warfork and hci/dci shield, but im not into bushido that much, so i dont know which is the best.
    1h? 2h? Shield/No Shield?

    And for the Wraith form a nice hld ssi ll wep? and for vampire obvious a mana leech one?
     
  12. Valhakar

    Valhakar Guest

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    Thank you very much.
    I will try both builds with some soulstones, i have currently quite enough cash to get everything i need for items.

    One last question.

    For the both forms, Wraith and Vampire

    On which weapons i should focus? Im a Fencer! I personally would go with warfork and hci/dci shield, but im not into bushido that much, so i dont know which is the best.
    1h? 2h? Shield/No Shield?

    And for the Wraith form a nice hld ssi ll wep? and for vampire obvious a mana leech one?

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    A Sammy build cannot use a shield.

    With 120 parry and 120 Bushido you get:

    Chance of blocking with a shield: 5%
    Chance of blocking with a 1-handed weapon: 35%
    Chance of blocking with a 2-handed weapon: 40%

    I do not have the gold resources you seem to have so I have to scrounge for my Sammy. I use an Enchanted Titan Legbone (short spear arty that people throw away) and a Valorite Kryss with 30% mana leech and 28% stamina leech. One does damage, the other attempts to fill me up with mana/stamina.

    I suggest practicing any of yoru builds against Ogre Lords. They tend to smack the heck out of you and take stamina down to nothing. It will let you play in a "worse case scenerio" situation. REMEMBER, being a fencer gives you a build advantage. With the +10 SSI from Divine fury and 120 dex you have maxed out the swing speed for everything except the pike and the lance.
     
  13. Bloodeye

    Bloodeye Guest

    Thank you very much Valhaker you helped me very much! [​IMG]
     
  14. Bloodeye

    Bloodeye Guest

    Hi Folks,

    i was able to finish my char

    120 Fenc
    120 Bush
    120 Parry
    100 Anat
    100 Tac
    90 Healing
    70 Chival

    I got
    Heart of Lion
    Mace and Shield glasses
    Legs of Bane
    Stormgrips
    high mr/lmc gorget and sleeves
    45 hci/45 dci, 70 70 70 70 66 resis
    quiver etc
    War Fork with 45 ml and ll, 40 di
    War cleaver 45 ml, 40 harm, 35 di
    and a bunch of other weps

    atm 0 tactics, for necro and ss to test the template
    Im currently running vamp form, but wanted to give wraith form also a shot

    i tried a few things, but got the [censored] beaten out of me.
    I wasnt able to solo the Bone Deamon for the Golden Skull, he like two hittet me.

    I have no problem at all to get gnaw for the dread horn key, but spite and irk the changelings, kill me always really fast

    I always keep confidence up, sometimes evasion and hit with lightning strike after honoring or momentum, if i have time i go for consecrate weapon.

    What im doing wrong?
     
  15. Sounds like you have a nice suit and a good template. You just need practice?
    With changlings, irks and spites, physical damage does not hurt them, you most definately need to use consecrate at all times which is hard if a druid or satyr peace you or get a diff wep that hurts them most in their weakest resist to save the mana.

    The eo1, honor and momentum are all based off the base damage, and if you are only doing physical damage and getting 1 or 2 hp damage, there is not much to multiply.