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RMT

Discussion in 'UHall' started by MrButton, Mar 5, 2013.

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  1. MrButton

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    Hello,

    I created a thread yesterday about the official policy of RMT (Real Money Transaction for game items) in Ultima Online and the thread is nowhere to be found.

    You can search for other threads about RMT's from a while back that are still on these forums.

    Was it deleted? Moved? If so, what was the reason?

    The purpose of the thread was to dispel some of the confusion regarding official RMT policies.

    Mods, please advise.
     
  2. Petra Fyde

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    I removed it. Maybe I should have just locked it.
    RMT is not allowed on these forums and is a breach of EA's terms of service. However such trading is not illegal, you are not breaking any laws that could be actioned in court.
    Web sites which deal in such trades are not allowed to be promoted on these forums.
     
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  3. Viper09

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    Just to add this tidbit in though. Everyone should be very wary of using the websites that do engage in RMT. As mentioned in the removed thread, there have been stories of account hijackings when people have used some of those sites. Never release any information that could compromise the security of your account.
     
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  4. MrButton

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    Thank you. However the tread was a discussion on the official policy of RMT and was not promoting anything, nor was any site named. It did not breach the Stratics RoC or ToS.

    There was no actual RMT taking place.

    It was a discussion and debate on RMT's in an effort to dispel some of the confusion on the official UO policy.

    As was apparent from the thread discussion alone, it is still a subject that is debated as many would argue that it is not mentioned in UO's ToS or RoC.

    There are other threads with RMT discussions on these forums that have not been locked or removed. How was this thread any different?

    A simple search for "RMT" will reveal these.

    No warning was given and no PM was sent to me.

    The deletion of the thread, in my opinion, was unwarranted.

    Thank you for your time.
     
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  5. Lady Storm

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    Mr Buttons perhaps I can make it more plain to you then the very easy explantation Petra gave you.
    Stratics is quite plain in the rule ... DO NOT TALK OF IT....
    In UO your subject to imediate banning of your account if a report of you doing so reaches a GM or a Dev and is confirmed by activity in your account files.
    You will not get a second opinion on this as that is in stone. In game you are subject to the games TOS/ROC... period. They will not debait you on this.
    Petra did as she should when a thread of this type is started. You were not singled out. You will not be pm'ed or given any such warning to a thread that breaks the rules.
     
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    Clearly you don't post here often.
     
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  7. Prawn

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    I almost got banned for saying "Dupepersonalattackracistcashsale"
     
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  8. virtualhabitat

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    You know a little German.
     
  9. MrButton

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    Thank you for your post Lady Storm.

    Please search for keyword "RMT" using the search function on these UO Stratics forums and you will clearly notice it has been discussed numerous times.

    Moderation must be consistent.

    I don't think there is much more I need to say.

    This will be my last post.

    Thank you to all who contributed to my original discussion.
     
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  10. Lord Frodo

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    IBTL It was asked, it was answered, time to lock this baby.
     
  11. Dermott of LS

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    ...

    The latest Dev Statement was in 2008 at a town hall stating that while Mythic as a company is anti-RMT but that UO has had a hands-off approach and as such it is legal, but not promoted in UO. There has not yet been an updated Dev statement on the issue so at the most it is still legal in UO, and at the least it is an unenforced rule via the TOS/EULA.

    The warnings about dealing with third party RMT sites are warranted (and another reason for companies to work on their own internal systems).
     
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  12. Love them Redheads

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    Add that to the number of morons who download a cheat script, hack, etc

    And there you have the vast majority of these so called "innocent" people who get their accounts hacked then come on here crying up a storm.
     
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    ELECTRONIC ARTS TERMS OF SERVICE


    You agree to these terms every time you log into UO

    You are only granted the use of every thing in UO. EA owns every thing. I know you are only buying stuff, it is illegal to purchase illegal items in case you didn’t know. You are as gulity as the seller.

    To answer the question about accounts.

    And please if you do not understand the use of a " , " go ask an English teacher.
    It is up to EA weather or not they choose to enforce these or not, you have no say so in it.
     
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    Calm down, "Officer".
     
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    Petra or any mod on at this time before this becomes a knock down drag out with the op Lock this thread thank you
     
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    Thread? What thread?
     
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  17. Petra Fyde

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    This question has been answered.
     
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