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[Provocation] Ronin question

Discussion in 'UO Bard' started by startle, Mar 2, 2011.

  1. startle

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    I know that Ronin's are not effected directly by Bard skills, so you can't Peace, Disco, etc... But can you provo something ONTO THEM?
     
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    "Your target does not seem interested in attacking that."


    *sigh*


    (it's a pointless nerfing of a valid skillset)
     
  3. startle

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    That's what I discovered when I tried.... Oh well, I guess it wouldn't be "fair" if Bards could provo everything....
     
  4. PsychoKinetic

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    Mages can cast at anything. Warriors can attack anything. Tamers can "All Kill" anything.


    If there is a reason to nerf bards in this manner, Ive never heard why.
     
  5. Cirno

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    There is one axception to the tamer example.
    In order to attack mechanical enemies, the tamer has to tell the pet to guard, them, and then attack the mechanical, so that the pet will guard them from the thing that is now attacking the tamer they're guarding.
     
  6. Poo

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    i kinda agree with NOT being able to bard mechanical critters.

    cause really what effect would music have on a machine, no?
     
  7. PsychoKinetic

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    I have never agreed with the addition of "mechanicals" to UO in the first place. But that's a discussion for a different thread. Given that they are here though, by their very nature, I agree that barding should not affect them.

    And even I though fully understand (and agree with) why the devs feel that some high-end non-mechanical creatures should be immune to the bard skill set I don't think that its ever been appropriately explained in an in-game context.

    For instance the ronin (and also ninja) mentioned in the original post. Are they non-bardable because they're human? That won't quite work because there are other humans in-game that can be barded. Are they too smart to be influenced by bards? Again, there are creatures in-game that lore much more intelligent than they do.

    I know I would have a much easier time accepting why my bard is nerfed if I could hear a reasonable in-game explanation.
     
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    I could not agree more with you on the ronin and ninja thing there
     
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    maybe ronin and ninja are all deaf :p
     
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    maybe its the whole lute vs bamboo flute controversy all over again.