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SA FINALLY usable.. BUT the pathfinding is irratating

Discussion in 'UHall' started by smip, Jan 15, 2010.

  1. smip

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    First.. I was plesently surprized to find out when I logged onto SA today it was accually playable. I am tickled pink and now I am learning how to set it up for my use on my different chars. There is one thing that I find VERY irritateing is the pathfinding issue this client has. It automatically goes into pathfinding if you move your charactor after a short period of time.

    I just wanted to know... Is there any way to turn OFF Pathfinding in SA?
     
  2. Miriandel

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    I don't know what you're talking about, there is no pathfinding in EC, which can be irratating when you need it (e. g. for boats).

    What sometimes happens is the client is busy loading a house for example and you don't seem to have control over your character which runs randomly, but this is not pathfinding but lag, AFAIK
    And it happens very rarely TBH, nothing game breaking.
     
  3. Mitzlplik_SP

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    I know what ya mean,I hate popping out of my gate only to be on a dead run with my foot on the floor. Very annoying but nothing we can do about it. :(
     
  4. Ender

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    Finally playable? Upgrade your computer for the first time in 10 years?
     
  5. Ezekiel Zane

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    There most definitely is pathfinding in the Enhanced Client. It's annoying as heck that there is not an option do disable it like there is in the CC.
     
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    Are we perhaps talking about how running at a wall of a building causes you to run around the entire damn building? Because yes, I find that annoying.
     
  7. Miriandel

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    Pathfinding is when you right-clic on the ground and your character runs there, right?

    If you know how to do that in the EC, please enlighten me, I never could manage to do it.
     
  8. pgcd

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    No pathfinding in the EC (afaik), BUT if you right-click, then left click while holding down the right button, it will follow the mouse until you right click again.
    Bug? Feature? The jury's still out on this.
     
  9. MalagAste

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    Bug and the most annoying one there is! I hate it! Drives me bats.
     
  10. Miriandel

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    It's not a bug, it's a feature, and a very usefull one.
    Just right-clic to have your character move, like always, then left-clic and you can release both mouse buttons, your character will now be on auto-run.

    This is not pathfinding, and it's how it works in other modern games too, including WoW.
     
  11. insanepete

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    its a great feature for long runs to the abyss, dont need to hold down the right mouse button :D should be a small tutorial tho for new EC users as alot of stuff seems buggy until you know how it works and you find an application for it. i thought it was broken path finding at first as well.
     
  12. Mapper

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    EC client has been playable for me for quite a few months, But I'm glad other users are giving it another go and enjoying it.
     
  13. BloodstoneGL

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    Lol this feature has been in UO forever now. I remember using it to run from town to town back when moongates had phases and you'd get tired of waiting. It's better than having to hold the mouse button for 10 minutes.
     
  14. Ezekiel Zane

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    In the Classic Client this is called pathfinding is it not? It's a double right-click though instead of a left-click while holding down the right button. You can disable this in the Classic Client.
     
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    Again, this same feature is in the Classic Client but with a double right-click. It can be disabled by checking the box in options that says " __ disable pathfinding."
     
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    There is a bug in the classic client as well with pathfinding. One of my 7 characters constantly goes into pathfinding often with one click of the mouse. I have toggled pathfinding on and off, toggled run mouse in seperate thread, and restarted the game. But the bug persists. It almost makes my character unplayable as I take off randomly for no apparent reason. Also the *pathfinding* message most of the time doesnt pop up. Its only that character oddly.
     
  17. smip

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    Well this answer is really helpful isn't it? LOL
     
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    Yes, yes. When I hold down both mouse keys I run. I click the right mouse key to stop. However, (I have absoutely no lag) if I hold down my right key as usual and run about half a screen then my char is on auto run as if I pressed both mouse keys again. I have to tap the right mouse key to make her stop.
     
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    I usually checked it about once a month. I was an avid 3d user until they disabled it. It was very laggy when ever I loged on.. I tried to play with the graphics in it but then today I discovered when I am in windowed mode it made me laggy. Absoutely no lag at all out of windowed mode. :thumbup:
     
  20. Mitzlplik_SP

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    Probably alota truth to that answer. Maybe not for you but alot of others I`m sure.
     
  21. Cirno

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    As has been said, it's a feature, implemented to mirror the 2D client.
    There is a problem where sometime it thinks you've left-clicked, depending on where your mouse is when you release the right mouse button. I think over containers or health bars cause this.
    In both clients, this allows you to move as if you're holding down the right mouse button, while not holding it down. in the enhanced client, the movement behaviour that attempts to travel around obstacles can make it seem like pathfinding, but "follow cursor" would be more accurate to describe it.
    Pathfinding is in the 2D client, where you double right-click and your character automatically moves to the point you clucked at, using some basic pathfinding code to find a path, while ignoring player input.
    It's not quite the same.
    In modern MMOs, the standard controls are that holding the right mouse button down looks around while facing your character in the direction you're looking, and the left does similar but without changing your character's facing. Holding both mouse buttons moves forwards in the direction the camera's facing (the same as holding right mouse and a forward key).
    there are usually abilities to bind a key to toggle moving forwards, and sometimes I think to toggle the thing that the right mouse button does.
     
  22. BloodstoneGL

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    No pathfinding was double right clicking and you person would walk to that spot. I'm talking about hold the right click down and start walking then left click while walking and you can take you hand off the mouse and you will continue to walk/run in the direction of the pointer.
     
  23. MalagAste

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    Supposed feature or not first off there is NO WAY to turn it off.... The few times I've actually tried to play the EC (When it didn't crash my computer)... All I was doing was walking... and I can guarantee that I was only clicking the LEFT button on my mouse.... most all of my characters would do it.... heck all I had to do was try to walk two steps and open a chest.... and they would start the stinking pathfinding....

    I would NOT have a huge issue with the "feature/BUG" if there were some way to turn the danged thing OFF!!! But it seems to me no matter what you do your character will still and constantly mostly at the most inopportune moments follow the danged cursor.... it's not only irritating it's down right maddening... and it is a huge factor in my "dislike" of the EC.... besides the fact that every other update to it causes my computer to crash everytime I play longer than 5 min.

    Without using one of those "skins" someone made it's also too much of a strain on my eyes... FAR too dark even with the adjustments to contrast and brightness... So if we were to be forced to exclusively play the EC I would be forced to quit UO, simply because I'd either crash every 5 min or my eyes would hurt so bad after only an hour my playtime would be severely limited forcing me to seek out a new game that doesn't cause such eyestrain...

    The new "skin" I downloaded helps some... but it's not 100% it's still fairly dark... and some of the graphics are "fuzzy" still.
     
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    You can turn it off by right clicking. It's just kinda hard to get used to. In other games autorun is my thumb button and then I click any other button to get out of the auto run. In SA when you click both mouse buttons the charactor starts moveing and keeps moveing where ever you point to until you right click to stop it.

    The autorun thing can be good it's just not so good when you don't need it such in the puzzle room.. the one when you run to each color. I am trying to master that in the EC. I thought would be good for me to teach me to automatically click the right button to make her stop running. This way it MAY come second nature to me if I did it enough.. LOL
     
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    I am a HUGE online gamer. One would think that updateing the graphics drivers (which was the first thing I did along with any other updates the computer would have) and things like that would be the FIRST thing someone does when they have major lag or graphic problems.

    I keep my computers up to date to the point where my husband gets upset with me for wanting a new computer about every other year. This year was the year to get a new computer. My computer is fine and up to date. The game runs very smooth. I just had it in window mode. For some reason the game on my computer does not like window mode. Other than that... and the autorun the EC runs great for me.

    I just hate when someone is asking for help we get really STUPID replys like that... it's not helpful and it wastes time reading idiotic replys like that. :thumbup1:
     
  26. Ezekiel Zane

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    Turning it off by right-clicking isn't disabling it. That's just stopping you from continuing to follow your mouse cursor with no buttons pushed. It still happens all the time. It may be a feature in most, maybe all, modern MMOs, but it's not in the classic client and I know I'm not used to it. If I want my character to move somewhere I'll hold down the appropriate mouse button to do so.
     
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    Yes and no.
    Right clicking to stop it following isn't the same as disabling it from ever happening. Every feature should have an option to disable it, if the user wishes.
    It is in the 2d client, though, and has been for as long as I've been playing. The difference being that it's less sensitive, and less prone to happening when not intentionally triggered.
     
  28. MalagAste

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    NO I want it to NEVER EVER Turn on..... As in a permanent way to shut it off!...
     
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    What are you talking about? It's been in the classic client for as long as I can remember and is a very useful feature.
     
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    Yes ...it has been a great feature and I use it all the time. It's much nicer than having to hold the button down all the time. :thumbup:
     
  31. Ezekiel Zane

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    Well you know what? I just tried it and you're right, it is in the Cc. However, I've played this game for nine years and not once, not one single time, has this ever activated on it's own. Nor, have I ever inadvertently activated it. In the Enhanced Client though, it's happening all the freaking time and I would like it to stop. All anyone is asking for is a way to disable it.
     
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    Ditto!!:mf_prop:
     
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    You know.. they keep saying it's in the classic client. But it's not the same thing. In the CC you have to double left click (or is it double right click?)for it to work. AND you can disable it completely. The EC you don't even have to try. You just run normally and when you let up on the mouse, you keep going.

    I wish there was a way to turn that off. I don't like it at all.
     
  34. Ezekiel Zane

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    I thought it wasn't in the CC either but actually it is and it's exactly the same as in the EC. Here's where the confusion is.

    Pathfinding: double right-clicking on the ground & you will auto-move to that location

    Follow mouse: hold down right button while then clicking the left button, release and you will follow the mouse without any button pressed until you right-click again.

    Two distinctly different functions albeit both annoying LOL.

    Pathfinding can be turned off in the CC but not in the EC. As far as I can tell, I did look, Follow mouse cannot be turned off in either client but it is obviously rarely inadvertently activated in the CC.
     
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    Has anything ever been done with this? Still happens to me and it is still irritating as hell.
     
  36. Sounds like some people are talking about the autorun feature (left clicking the mouse while running, then you can let go of the mouse buttons and continue to run). It has a way of kicking in accidentally. You can disable it by unchecking it in the options menu ("Enable Autorun"), which is different from "Always Run".
     
  37. MalagAste

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    Holy buckets..... what is this rez dead posts day?
     
  38. LOL! I didn't even notice this started in January, but it did seem a little odd there was so much discussion on this now!
     
  39. Mapper

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    At least this post is from this year. :eek:
     
  40. MalagAste

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    However just so you know..... they did do something about that )*(*)(*) that happens that makes you constantly follow your cursor in the EC and you CAN now permanently turn it OFF thank the GODS!....
     
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    So, I came in to type something along the lines of "finally upgrade your computer?" and lo and behold, I had already posted it. 6 and a half months ago.
     
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    They fixed this in the EC client. There is an option in settings to disable following or something like that.

    I'm not sure if it is a custom UI option or if its for entire client.

    However, I know for a fact there is one. I have it selected on all my characters, and I have no more pathfinding issues in the EC.
     
  43. Ni-

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    That bug you're experiencing is not really "pathfinding" as in the CC. It's like you pressed the left button while the right was held down, but you didn't. So you are heading in the direction of the pointer, not a predetermined location.

    I believe I have experienced this bug. I only notice it in conjuction with lag, or maybe more acurately during loading objects (meaning: items, chars, houses, terrain...).
     
  44. Ni-

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    So if you turn this feature off, you would never be able to hold down the right button and click the left button to auto-run?

    Hhmmm. I can be kinda lazy some times, so I do like the auto-run feature. That's good to know in case the accidental auto-run becomes really annoying.
     
  45. Maybe this is what is happening to me - I keep getting "hung up" on bushes and trees and "rubber-banding" around them for several seconds when I try to run. Most often the result is that the greater dragon turns me to ash or masticates me before I stop "rubber-banding" around the rock or bush. I finally stop bouncing after I'm dead. The dead can't "pathfind" or walk through trees and brush, though I can walk through doors LOL. This seemed to start for me right after the Bane war started. Running EC on Win 7 - otherwise I just avoid the spots with garish color schemes and I can run the EC just fine...