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SA paragons

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Sevin0oo0, Nov 19, 2011.

  1. Sevin0oo0

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    well, that one spawn in SA(LS) now has SIX paragon servants. That, to me is UNPLAYABLE.

    for those that say it's a 'challenge'. go for it. You can't even just 'run thru it' either- especially done the path to the Rest of the area. spamming paralyze poison, BS
     
  2. Shelleybean

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    I really hope this is a bug and that it will be fixed.
     
  3. Kylie Kinslayer

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    I've noticed this too.... it is terrible. You are right you can't even run through there or get close. There is no time for pics they kill you too soon. I hope they fix this soon!
     
  5. Nyses

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    It's hard to do now, but it is possible. I have done it a couple times, looking for a Paragon Chest off one of them. I finally got it, but it just has a typical NPC name on it.
     
  6. elspeth

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    take a pic after you die. You guys aren't talking about paragons in stygian abyss are you? are there some there? I thought they could only be in ilshenar. Or does SA stand for your shard or something else?
     
  7. lucitus

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    Cool Paragons in the SA Dungeon?
     
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    Paragon elves invade the Abyss...

    That's from Europa, so it seems it may be happening on all shards. As far as I could see from a short walk about, it's only those elves that are spawning paragons - but it is every elf that spawns as a paragon.

    I'm guessing something's gone awry with the data codes for monsters....
     
  9. CovenantX

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    well considering that seems to be the Only mob in the Abyss spawning as a paragon, atleast that I have seen, its definently a bug.

    I did the spawn once a day or so ago, and Every single servant was a Paragon.

    Unfortunately I didn't get any paragon boxes from any of them.
     
  10. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Yeah, was just running one on Atlantic. The place dang sure is a challenge now whewwww
     
  11. Pinco

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    probably has something to do with this feature of shame:

    Since I've never seen a paragon or reknowned on shame...
     
  12. Wizal the Fox

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    No the renowned are the Guardians that you spawn with the crystals, and yes they are as fast as paragons.
     
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    All I can say is ouch! They need to fix this. Its hell to hunt in there with them all paras.
     
  14. Myphsar

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    Naa, i think they should stay.
    It a good challange and isnt so boring now.
     
  15. ahardy

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    No they spawn normal monsters was renowened too, i killed a renowned mud elemental 2 days ago.
     
  16. Thunderz

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    Think how much a chest from one of those babys could be worth after they fix it ;)

    Like the paragon renound dragon chest go for that spawned in ilsh after SA


    Thunderz
     
  17. Aurelius

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    Sadly, probably not much...

     
  18. Beastmaster

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    Anyone got a paragon turkey chest yet?
     
  19. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Nope, farmed them the last few years and have never gotten one.
     
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    The publish has not resolved this, so not sure if a fix is still in the works or what.
     
  21. G.v.P

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    Wow...those were a challenge BEFORE they were paragons...ew.

    Looks like another reason not to finish SA spawns ;P.
     
  22. Kylie Kinslayer

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    They are not too bad if you have sw and hit em with Thunderstorm to slow the casting recovery down. 120 sw and hitting them with that takes them back down to their normal casting time.
     
  23. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Well, confirmed. They drop chests.
     
  24. Nice, and congrats! Can you tell what level chest drops?
     
  25. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Thanks. They have Ingeniously maps in them. Drop level 5 chest then I guess.
     
  26. Viquire

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    I have also battled paragon reknowned fire demons and a paragon ancient lich. No chests from either though, yet.
     
  27. Sevin0oo0

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    Those both sound scary as well.
    Congrats on the chest! Wonder if these were all planned? maybe one of the Halloween surprises?
     
  28. Viquire

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    I have been reminded the acid ele and wyvern can also be affected. :) I'm gonna go ahead and assume the fire ele can as well. I have not seen any other spawn areas generate paragons in the lower levels of the spawn itself.
     
  29. soze

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    What are you guys using to kill these things. I have used RC and have to recast a few times, but i finally get it done. Have been lucky and gotten one chest, but died a lot....these things get on you so fast...i would rather use my tamer, but i can't seem to heal without being jumped
     
  30. Gnoopey

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    I remember running into two Goblin paragons on TC1 when that Shame build was tested in an early stage. Both the renowned goblin mage and alchemist had spawned as paragons to my full bard copy there.
     
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    So how about it devs? Is this a bug or intended?
     
  32. Vyal

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    This needs fixed. Intended or not it is just stupid.
    There is no logical reason to have these things here. It makes the renown a thing of the past. I have not been able to do it since these things have started spawning. This was at one time one of my fav renowns to solo & now it's not even a option. I don't even run thru there anymore.
    Maybe if you must spawn paragons make it a very slim chance one will spawn not every single one....
     
  33. Kylie Kinslayer

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    I kind of like it. You can still complete the spawn but it cuts down on those boss jumpers that used to happen all the time.
     
  34. Vyal

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    What boss jumpers? There like 40 active players on my shard... & 30 of them just sit & the bank, deco or fish.
     
  35. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Sorry that's how it is on your shard. But on the larger shards {especially Atlantic} boss jumpers were fairly common place there.
     
  36. Theo_GL

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    Once again I feel like we should have an Atlantic Forums and a 'rest of UO forums'.

    Many shards are utter ghost towns. Any spawns that cannot be solo'ed requires serious effort to even find a group to do them. 5-6 people in gen chat at any given point of the day....
     
  37. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Again, sorry y'all are on seemingly dead shards. I would hate to know I had to solo everything in game because I had to not just because it would be a challenge. However, this spawn IS soloable even with the paragons running around. It does take a little time tho.

    Should everything in game be cut back and made easier so folks on dead shards can solo it tho? Some things are not meant to be soloed, sorry. If I were on a shard that dead I would invest in some xfer tokens :D
     
  38. Vyal

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    :thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
     
  39. Kylie Kinslayer

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    :confused::confused::confused:

    You throw in the towel? Or just could not come up with a valid discussion point?

    Just curious.
     
  40. Kylie, I agree with you on most things, but not this. The more content created that requires groups, the fewer players you will have.

    There should be nothing - NOTHING - that can't be solo'd or require more than two people to kill. I'm not talking about making it easy, or so a sampire can kill everything, just the opposite. Once all the excitement of new boss content wears off, people drift away and the boss are left unplayed because you can't find a group - at least not on my shard and the times of day when I can play.

    Major mob bosses and renowned should be a challenge, but not impossible. Some bosses should take a mage, and others bard/tamer/sampire/necro or whatever. I haven't soloed any peerless boss, but I want to some day and have that as a goal to work towards.

    Atlantic is only one shard of many. If EA isn't going to combine shards or advertise to increase the shard population, it would just kill off the low population shards to require groups to kill all the big guys. And I won't spend money for a transfer token to start over on a new shard on a slowly dying game.
     
  41. Vyal

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    Hey if your so fed up with boss jumpers come to my shard and go solo that stupid **** and have all the loot you want then take it back to ATL.
     
  42. Kylie Kinslayer

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    I understand that line of thinking Old Man, and you do bring up valid points. After all alot of folks stopped doing the wyvern renowned when they found the tink legs also dropped on Devour renowneds also. I would just hate to see it where things like Harry, Harbinger can be soloed if you can avoid a raid. I already find it sad Mel, Trav, DH and Shimmer can be soloed by someone at my level of play. I mean I ain't a total noob, but dang sure ain't leet.

    @ Vyal - The spawn is fairly easily soloed with either a sampire or weaver/tamer. The hardest part is luring out one paragon servent at a time, two max. If my goofy arse can solo it... anyone can :gee:
     
  43. Vyal

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    Well I can solo just about everything in the game but these paragons kill me easier then the renown does. It's just stupid...

    & I solo a harry easier then this spawn also...
     
  44. Airhaun

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    meeehh... hmmm.... idk....

    Yes the spawn is very difficult with the paragon elf-mages but think back. To all you old-timer UO players back in 98'/99' don't you remember going down to bottom of Hythloth with like 20 people to kill a Balron Daemon? That was also.... 'very difficult'; monsters in general used to be much harder to kill. I find it a bit nostalgic and refreshing that it actually takes some concentration, tactics, a good suit & template to complete this spawn. I've done it maybe 5 or so times with a Disco/Provo Bard using Reptile Slayer instrument and dragon Slayer Spellbook. I've pulled 4 chests and haven't died yet but have come very close.

    I believe one of the things the devs have tried to encourage is group events. Group up with a few of your buds/guildmates and this spawn should be no problem. If the complaint is coming from an individual who is hoping to solo with ease......
    *cough* Spoiled! *cough* :)
     
  45. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Agreed. Same thing when paragon Ballys started in Ilsh. Place was mobbed with 40-50 folks all after that great chance at a chest to drop. Then the crowd slowly died off. Everything has an ebb and flow.

    Personally I think they should do something THIS agressive at every place a level 8 or higher stealable spawns ESPECIALLY including Nix's shop area where the ruined painting spawns. Since the para servents have kicked in I have been able to snag 4 of the gargish luck totems. Scripters don't stand much of a chance surviving the area now so that leaves them to honest thiefs now days... well as honest as a thief can be :p
     
  46. Vyal

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    Now your saying this is good because of scripting thieves... Do you think about wtf your saying?
    40-50 people to kill a balron ummm ok there isn't even 40 or 50 people on 90% of the shards. More importantly the renown is easier to kill then those things.
    When I can solo anything in the game with a sampire but these stupid things kill me I think something needs fixed.
     
  47. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Dude, seriously... relax... breathe... it ain't that big of a deal... sheshhhh

    First, do I think about wtf I am saying? Yepp, most all the time. Having a place where stealables spawn that is almost a sure death for a stealing scripter is an added bonus for the area. I had not included it in any of my previous posts because I had not thought about it. But YEPP... anything that cuts down on scripting is ALWAYS a good thing in my book. Do you agree? or are you one of those PRO-scripter type of people?

    40-50 people to kill a para Bally was when paragons first hit. And at that time there were more than enough on each shard to handle it.

    I am sorry your sampire can not solo the spawn *shrugs*. Maybe you need to upgrade your gear, or your skills. Because I have seen sampires handling it. And I handle it just fine on a mage/sw/tamer. Either way no biggie to me... change it... don't change it *shrugs*. Either way I am so sorry you have found a challenge in a game that actually shows you a monochrome screen for a change.

    I do agree with you that something needs to change tho. Imho vamp form should be scaled in duration based on the chars Necro and SS. But hey, that's just me. :gee:
     
  48. Vyal

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    I can already tell by the way you cry "scripter" that it's to hard for you to understand that I can solo anything in the game but these things have made it to hard for me to kill one of my fav renowns to kill.
    This spawn should not be something that I need to bring in 10 people or switch characters to do. I'm pissed because... I have not got a chance to kill the renown on my shard since I have returned to the game because there is no one to do it with! Like I said, I already know by the way you cried "scripter" your just some think you know it all trammy that really don't know jack anyways & here I am trying to explain the situation to you.. Now I feel like a idiot.
     
  49. Kylie Kinslayer

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    That first sentence alone would have made me fell that way had I typed it.



    Strange, you call me a trammy who does not know jack. Yet here you are in a Tram ruleset area unable to complete a spawn that I can easily complete. To quote Ace Ventura Pet Detective ... Ahhhhh yah yah yah yah yah yalrighty then!! :pie:
     
  50. Vyal

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    I play Siege & if you want a challenge so bad I suggest you do the same.
    Otherwise keep your BS im such a great trammy I can kill the paragons so easy, you just suck talk to yourself.