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Sampire Archers

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Lord Chaos, Apr 17, 2010.

  1. Lord Chaos

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    "Hello, my name is Bob. I am a Holy Paladin Necromancer Samurai Vampire Archer and I suck peoples blood through the arrows of my bow."

    Yeah, that made a lot of sense.

    [​IMG]
     
  2. Vaelix

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    "Hello, My name is Dave, I am an Honorable Honor-less Samurai Assassin that would never run in battle, I do however have stealth, hiding and smoke bombs so I can run away in battle."

    UO is full of em, Logic doesn't exist.
     
  3. Vertigo

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    It's a fantasy game. What's your point?
     
  4. Lord Chaos

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    That fantasy games at least has some sort of internal logic at least.
     
  5. hen

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    And you want to add item id to all this? lolololololololololololool
     
  6. Vertigo

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    I'll remember that the next time I'm resurrecting my pet Dragon with a bandage after fighting a Pixie that can morph itself into you. Lol.
     
  7. Lord Chaos

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    Yes indeed, that at least follow both ingame and fantasy logic.
     
  8. Stupid Miner

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    You're assuming the game follows the same vampire internal logic that you hold.
    Why not quibble about Curse Weapon? How does that work? and if that's legitimate it justifies vampirism's logic.

    Besides, ninja wolves vomiting arrows makes less sense.
     
  9. Lord Chaos

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    Its more the games own internal lore and logic regarding necromancy and chivalry.
     
  10. Aibal

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    So in "fantasy", an honorable chivalrous paladin couldn't get bitten by a vampire and become one?

    You're continuing lack of knowledge of the template (and disdain for it based on lack of knowledge) is summarized by your remarks about how necromancy and chivalry can't co-exist. Sampires don't continuously cast necro spells. My sampire has the highest karma (and fame until I sacrifice) of any of my characters. I cast EXACTLY one necro spell....vampiric embrace....and only do that after dieing. Not hard to see how necro and chiv can co-exist quite well in such a situation.
     
  11. Farsight

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    Evil Perspective:
    Hello, My name is Grol Darkeye. My god is named Bane, and he's the embodiment of dark order in this chaotic world. He is by no means good, in fact, he can be brutal at times. However, through the power of my prayers to Him, I can swing my weapon faster and harder. I can cure or even heal my wounds or even hit certain enemies harder.

    Paladins, you see, don't always have to follow the "good" gods of this world. Evil needs servants as well.

    Good perspective:
    Hello, my name is Aneirin Grace. My god, through his grace and goodness, has offered me the power to increase my life force through combatting others. Through this power, I can single handedly defeat even the most evil of opponents.

    It can all be explained away. But the only logic I feel I should be bound to is my own.

    And in a fantasy world, I have none.
     
  12. Lord Chaos

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    You're not bitten by a vampire, you cast a necromancy spell. And even just training and having necromancy together with chivalry is just wrong on so many levels really. Add Bushido and Archery and it just becomes really silly.

    But honestly, don't care, its a humerous post.
     
  13. Harlequin

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    What's wrong?

    Can't a samurai use bows?

    Can't a samurai that have traveled to a foreign land be converted to a worshiper of the deities there and learn paladin spells?

    Or can't a gaijin paladin learn bushido from a sensei?

    Or are you saying that paladins belongs solely to deities of "good" mythos? Who's to say the evil deities don't have their own dark knights (with equivalent spells to put them on par with "good" paladins) that they need to protect the clergy?

    On that line of thought, who says good paladins cannot learn necromancy spells? Casting them would diminish the strength of their goodly powers of course. Which they have to atone for by wantonly murdering more monsters that are just protecting their homes from being invaded.

    Finally, you don't really suck the blood from your victims even if you use a melee weapon. Then, there are also opponents that don't have blood like gollems and elementals. What's happening is that you are using a spell that converts the life force of any being you injure into your own life force.

    The only thing that's illogical is why a mage in vampire from can't leech hp via spells :D
     
  14. Vertigo

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    lol, don't bother. His post and attempt at humor failed miserably.
     
  15. Harlequin

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    Hello, my name is Tom. I was a paladin of Mystra before she was slain by Helm. I have sworn to avenge her and destroy Helm. In pursuit of that goal, I now worship Bane who have granted me powers as befits a paladin under his service. I am also learning secrets of manipulating necromantic powers from the clergy.



    Hello, my name is ****. I'm Tom's brother. I worship Helm. I have learned of my brother's plan to destroy my deity. Although I can understand his bitterness but as brothers, I hope to dissuade him from this path. As he gain in power, I have been learning the dark arts of necromancy to better thwart him should he fail to heed my advice. This is not easy, since Helm frowns on his worshipers practicing the the dark arts and withdraws the powers he grants me each time I cast a dark spell. I need to be ever mindful of the thin line I tread and vigorously atone for my deeds by exterminating the evil creatures that threaten the lands. This regains me the favor of Helm...until I cast another dark spell. Some of the clergy thinks I'm just a power-hungry ****.



    Hello, my name is Harry. I play dirty and just pull out the guns when fighting. Do you feel lucky?
     
  16. Splup

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    Hello, I'm a horse with 130cm long legs, I can run 70km/h and jump over high fences but I can't run over rat or bird.
     
  17. Lord Chaos

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    Except neither of your scenarios fit into UO lore at all, heh.
     
  18. deadite

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    UO lore is a mish-mash of whatever the devs at the time came up with. We're so far from Ultima canon at this point that it's not even funny. Who cares if people come up with their own lore?

    Besides, Ultima has always supported the "traveler from another world" scenario. So there you go. That should put it to rest for you.
     
  19. Taylor

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    Implausible? Maybe. Impossible? I'm pretty sure my wife can suck peoples' blood from a distance...
     
  20. yars

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    really? if you want to be "all for real" about the classes
    1.) knights dont fight with bows, close combat is considered more chivalrous
    2.)there are no vampires, its a spell thats drains life from damage
    3.) samurais were very lazy,poetic,and very self righteous.
    they followed a belief that you dont dishonor your name,family or someone of higher stature, they often killed peasants and serfs for convience to themselves.

    sounds just right in the game

    as for ninjas, let me know when i can climb over ridiculous obstacles, sit under water and breathe through a reed.

    this game needs a navy SEAL class
     
  21. Picus of Napa

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    Still waiting for Pics of the wife and girlfriend.

    Your post boils down to releated postings in the warrior forums. I conclude that you cannot make a suit or template for your sampire and are now on a crusade to destroy a great player evolved char.

    Sad, I wish I had copied your epic face palm for my vision of your life.
     
  22. Lord Chaos

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    You're going to have to wait a long time, I don't do pictures on Stratics period. Its funny to see that people are soooo very thinskinned about sampires, probably because you're afraid they'll get nerfed LOL...over a joke post.

    Man you guys are sad.

    I already have a sampire if I bothered adding Necromancy, which I don't atm. A suit is not a problem.
     
  23. Stupid Miner

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    Hm... need to use more emoticons :D, else it's hard to guess what's serious or satire or sarcasm.
    It's a necessary substitute since so much of conversation is in the intonation of the words which is wholly lost in text.
     
  24. Uvtha

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    Exactly, and you aren't biting people to steal their blood either. You've got some wacky magic power that sucks life force from people when they are wounded.

    And yeah, it does seem odd that you can do these things together. Just need to tie them both to karma more, that would effectively separate them, but still allow some level of meshing.
     
  25. Taylor

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    How'd you average 12 posts a day for two years straight?
     
  26. Konge

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    Oh come on dude... they're obviously...


    MIND BULLETS....er Arrows...
     
  27. Konge

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    And, this solves everything. You're a magic vampire, who has all the powers of a UO vampire, b ut uses his magical aura to drain peoples blood, same way curse weapon works.

    Still trying to fit Sandy, the dancing purple ancient wyrm popstar into this...
     
  28. Aran

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    LC, this is sad even for you.
     
  29. LordDrago

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    I would guess the point is that he got his butt handed to him by a Sampire Archer, and thus, logically speaking, Sampire Archers must be nerfed. :)
     
  30. Fresley

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    Don't encourage him.
     
  31. OxAO

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    oh come on, don't you remember Conan the barbarian when the arrow was shot stuck into the guy from a long distance and it turned out to be a snake?

    Well they are magical snakes that transfer the energy to the shooter.
     
  32. No **** Sherlock. Where'd you dig up that clue? You've done nothing but *****, ****, moan, and complain about everything in UO since you returned. Why are you still here?


    Humor that is only funny to one can usually be called sadism. :gee:
     
  33. Cloak&Dagger

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    Don't forget he was gone for like 6 months from the boards?
     
  34. Lord Chaos

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    You just love making up stuff, the vast majority of my posts are not pancakes or complaining, though this game does have a lot of things that needs fixing.

    Don't like that, then get the hell out of the game.

    Ah well, didn't take into account the sampire love crowd.

    I don't PvP, so I couldn't really have had my butt handed to me. Besides, if I wanted to play a Sampire Archer, then all I had to do is get necromancy on my ABC.
     
  35. DarkVoid

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    If you've ever listened to a political speech and noticed that a lot of people around you are falling asleep, you'll know that your Sampire is just mimicking Real Life (TM) exactly! :D

    Politicians have been doing this sort of thing for ages, why would you consider it at all strange? :lick:
     
  36. Yes, they are, and I'm not the only one that's noticed it popps jr.



    Your complaining on Stratics has nothing to do with playing the game, but since you brought the subject up, since you hate so much about UO with all of your complaint threads and posts, then maybe it's you that needs to "get the hell out of the game".
     
  37. Aran

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    Is Jirel your sister?
     
  38. Lord Chaos

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    Sure you aren't, but that doesn't show anything at all. And hell, just a quick search and tally shows that the vast majority of my threads/posts are of positive or neutral nature, not negative.

    Actually I love the game, hence why I want it to improve so more people will play it. You on the other hand want it to stagnate and die out.
     
  39. That's Telekinesis Kyle!... er Konge...
     
  40. Viper09

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    Are we seriously trying to argue logic in a fantasy game? I guess the first question I have to ask is whose logic are we arguing? Not everyone follows the exact same logic for a fantasy game.

    And UO lore? I thought we knew by now that a lot of the new stuff in this game doesn't exactly follow the old Ultima lore.

    How's this for logic though: A waterfall tile in a house that both goes nowhere and comes from nowhere. The fact we cannot pull up a hood from every robe. We harvest wood from trees yet they remain standing, even after there is no more wood to harvest. Characters seem to be the same size as the horse they ride. 6 gold stacked looks like a huge pile of gold....

    I'm going to stop there. Could probably make an endless list.
     
  41. Tukaram

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    My bard just invented inwards singing! (The most powerful tool in singing technology since yodeling dude!)




    ... Actually I rather enjoyed the original post and definitely saved the pic!
     
  42. Taylor

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    Popps? Is that you? Tell the truth and shame the devil.