1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Greetings Guest!!

    In order to combat SPAM on the forums, all users are required to have a minimum of 2 posts before they can submit links in any post or thread.

    Dismiss Notice

sampire

Discussion in 'UHall' started by whiterabbit, Sep 15, 2011.

  1. whiterabbit

    whiterabbit Stratics Legend
    Professional Premium Stratics Veteran Supporter Stratics Legend Campaign Supporter PITMUCK

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2003
    Messages:
    7,748
    Likes Received:
    3,125
    has sumin changed? my sampy is not hitting for over 40 and leech life does not seem to be working well? using soul seeker ,vamp embrace etc.cons. weapon ,enemy of one and lightning strike. used to hit medussa for 140 or more now hitting for 30-40
     
  2. Mirt

    Mirt Certifiable
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2009
    Messages:
    1,726
    Likes Received:
    286
    What is your chiv at? With the new chiv changes that could be the issue that your consecrate is only landing some of the time.
     
  3. Mr. Smither1

    Mr. Smither1 Seasoned Veteran
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2004
    Messages:
    345
    Likes Received:
    66
    If your sampire is using like low 60s chiv you will notice a big diff on your damage output and that effects your life leech. I have been told you need 80-85 chiv to do the same damage that you used to do before the chiv changes. I changed up my sampire's weapons for higher damage ones that have armor ignore.
     
  4. Mirt

    Mirt Certifiable
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2009
    Messages:
    1,726
    Likes Received:
    286
    Yes that would be correct. Chiv now needs to be around 85 for most of the spells to work all the time, that being said I still have and use a template that is lower and it does work out pretty well. It just means that everything else has to go right.
     
  5. NuSair

    NuSair Babbling Loonie
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    May 21, 2008
    Messages:
    2,989
    Likes Received:
    999
    Something has changed- currently I am thinking it's with the leaches. Prepatch, I was able to solo Rikktor pretty effectively, since the patch- it has been not that easy.

    And the change to Chiv has nothing to do with it, I have a 100% Cold Dragon Slaying leaf blade- I am at the damage cap.
     
  6. whiterabbit

    whiterabbit Stratics Legend
    Professional Premium Stratics Veteran Supporter Stratics Legend Campaign Supporter PITMUCK

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2003
    Messages:
    7,748
    Likes Received:
    3,125
    ok chiv is 71 raising it now see wot happens
     
  7. Mirt

    Mirt Certifiable
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2009
    Messages:
    1,726
    Likes Received:
    286
    You are right about something changing with the leeches after the newest patch, but I believe the inital issue that was posted sounds like the changes that came after the chiv nerf.
     
  8. aarons6

    aarons6 Certifiable
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2007
    Messages:
    1,897
    Likes Received:
    31
    i wish they would change leeches back on ranged weapons.. i dont understand why my thrower can only have 28% mana leech while my swordsman can have 60%.
     
  9. yars

    yars Lore Keeper
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2003
    Messages:
    956
    Likes Received:
    134
    ^^^^this
     
  10. same reason why melee weapons cant have 25% hit/defense chance;)
     
  11. yars

    yars Lore Keeper
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2003
    Messages:
    956
    Likes Received:
    134
    ive never seen a crafted/imbued weapon that high(not saying it doesnt exist)
    post a pic if you could?
     
  12. yars

    yars Lore Keeper
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2003
    Messages:
    956
    Likes Received:
    134
    nevermind i found one, seems a waste though.
     
  13. Ender

    Ender Crazed Zealot
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2008
    Messages:
    3,548
    Likes Received:
    548
    Leeches seem awful recently. Like I run out of mana all the time.
     
  14. on ranged weapons, you can imbue up to 25% for def/hit. its just a different way of reaching caps. you compensate by not needing it on other pieces.
     
  15. yars

    yars Lore Keeper
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2003
    Messages:
    956
    Likes Received:
    134
    a stranger thought, theres one artie throwing wep that has velocity, sure it would be overpowered, but doesnt it makes sense throwing wep's should have it imbueable as well? not that im advocating it.
     
  16. you can imbue velocity on a throwing weapon, if that's what you mean. it's the same as a bow, just can't enhance it with wood, so bows can reach 40% SSI, where as throwing weaps cant.
     
  17. whiterabbit

    whiterabbit Stratics Legend
    Professional Premium Stratics Veteran Supporter Stratics Legend Campaign Supporter PITMUCK

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2003
    Messages:
    7,748
    Likes Received:
    3,125
    ok chiv at 80 now trying to raise karma to see if my damage is any better
     
  18. whiterabbit

    whiterabbit Stratics Legend
    Professional Premium Stratics Veteran Supporter Stratics Legend Campaign Supporter PITMUCK

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2003
    Messages:
    7,748
    Likes Received:
    3,125
    nope no better
     
  19. Night

    Night Adventurer
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 1999
    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    14
    It's not just weapon leech...wraith form mana leech has been sucking muchly since the patch too ! :-(
     
  20. E_T

    E_T Adventurer
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    98
    Likes Received:
    6
    That's probably because Lightning Strike costs twice as much mana now.

     
  21. jbfortune

    jbfortune Slightly Crazed
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2008
    Messages:
    1,251
    Likes Received:
    0
    I've noticed a difference as well. Not leeching hardly at all with my samp.

    What's going on?
     
  22. Ender

    Ender Crazed Zealot
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2008
    Messages:
    3,548
    Likes Received:
    548
    I'm not using LS. And I have 40 LMC now, I had 30 before. Difference of like 2 mana.
     
  23. jbfortune

    jbfortune Slightly Crazed
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2008
    Messages:
    1,251
    Likes Received:
    0
    Any update on this?
     
  24. Nyses

    Nyses Lore Keeper
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2008
    Messages:
    901
    Likes Received:
    89
    I have still been out doing some solo spawns, some group spawns and all kinds of other things on my Sampire, I have not noticed a difference. I seem to leech and stay alive same as always.

    I saw Medusa mentioned earlier, is it just her or everything else?
     
  25. jbfortune

    jbfortune Slightly Crazed
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2008
    Messages:
    1,251
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm finding it mana more to be honest. Getting DH keys was much more challenging although DH himself seemed fine.
     
  26. G.v.P

    G.v.P Stratics Legend
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2004
    Messages:
    9,644
    Likes Received:
    831
    Like others have noted, I don't know if everyone understands how big a nerf the lightning strike nerf was. It doubled the mana cost for LS. At 120 bush/parry you have a 33.33% chance of a crit, and maybe a 50% chance of leeching mana, depending on wep. When you roll the dice and get a crit/leech, you're on top of the world. If you fail to AI five hits in a row and you don't leech mana, then yeah, you lost 50 mana and can end up in trouble. Beforehand the LS cost was so low that you'd never really run out of mana before a crit/leech could save you.

    I have no problem w/ Medusa after 5 runs (w/ group) on a 70 chiv sampire. Medusa still hasn't killed my sampire after I don't know how many runs. Killed my tamer one time, when I did it with another tamer just to see how it would go. Two tamers actually work pretty well, was my only death so far.
     
  27. Winker

    Winker Babbling Loonie
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    May 14, 2008
    Messages:
    2,298
    Likes Received:
    624
    Aye its the lightning strike nerf that hurts me the most. I would like to have seen an up of the % to 40% for critical hit