useing a crafter to make keys for Exodus? I have to admit I just looked at what was required and simply forgot about it. However I have visited the dungeon using other characters and I have now done some 5 hours or so in it. In that time I have had drops of the Altar, the Rite and ONE robe. I have as yet NEVER had a single dagger drop. That being the case I looked again at the making of a dagger by a crafter. The difficulty here for me is where in hell do you get hold of small pieces of blackrock? I do not have a miner and nobody sells it. Is no thought whatever given to how people are supposed to get ingredients?. It seems not and so I am left with no alternative but to pursue the endless pursuit of the non-dropping. I seem to remember when the discussion about the +5 scrolls first arose it was stated that they would be available to all. Well it seems that they are obtainable by some as they are seen for sale at ridiculous prices, no way would I pay them and my endeavours to obtain one are, I think, doomed to be short-lived. The current trend seems to be kill kill kill and obtain keys and then kill kill kill to try for a drop. The current Exodus and recent change to Despise are both like this. What happened to the kind of quests in which it was possible for even crafters to participate? Ones like the Candle of Love. Something which actually required you to use your brain a little to work your way through the final maze. Exodus for me is nearly a gone goose.