I thought that the points for taking an altar would be increased to match that of turning in a sigil. I see that instead, the points for returning sigils has been reduced. You don't get silver for occupying, and now you only get 20 points for taking an altar or turning in a sigil. You also don't get points for WINNING. I can't even articulate how annoyed I am. With the elimination of occupying silver, EVERYTHING should have been dropped in price DRAMATICALLY, and altar and sigil points should have gone UP. I'm going to have to turn in FIVE HUNDRED sigils for ONE deco item. FIVE HUNDRED SIGILS. What happened to not wanting to nerf thieves? Potion kegs are 25 sigils/altars. Traps are 12.5. Mana spikes are 100. Cannons are 150. Those worthless hooded robes are 250 sigils/altars. ?!?!?! No one was using the spikes and cannons before... do you really think anyone will now that they take 100-150 altars/sigils to get?! So not only is it going to take FOREVER to get the nice deco rewards, it takes prohibitively long to even get the extra tools that we are supposed to use to play VvV in the first place. I don't get it. I just don't get it. A gentle tweak was needed. The proper tool was a small wrench, not a nuclear bomb. So thanks for ruining VvV, devs. I was very concerned about a thief nerf, but clearly I was thinking too small. You nerfed THE ENTIRE THING FOR EVERYONE instead, with a slight extra kick to thieves with the anti-hiding nonsense. Jeez. I tried to be nice. I tried to be tactful. I give up. Just as with the governor system, good suggestions from reasonable and honest players get lost under the deluge of whiny crap and ignored. I'm so disappointed. This was the most fun I've had with my thief in years. ACTUAL FUN, not just dungeon collecting. Now it's another stupid, brutal grind. It was fun while it lasted. Guess I'll go steal some some more dungeon junk. After I fight my way past the Blackthorn dungeon trash with the stealth thief that can't walk past a hellhound anymore. Thanks a lot.