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sexual content clearly is for M rating

Discussion in 'EA Land/The Sims Online Stratics Forums' started by Guest, Nov 11, 2007.

  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    per the ESRB entertainment software rating board

    TEEN
    Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.

    MATURE
    Titles rated M (Mature) have content that may be suitable for persons ages 17 and older. Titles in this category may contain intense violence, blood and gore, <u> sexual content </u> and/or strong language.

    What part of these rating EA appears to not understand?

    I am putting this as a new thread since this topic in not part of CC testing apparently. I am not looking for replys, just showing the difference in a T rating and a M rating. Therefore making my suggestions of waiting on this part of CC correct (waiting until EA changed the rating to M if this was still in their plans)or making sure there was some reminder this is a T rated game and actions would be taken if submissions are not in the boundries of a T rating. Giving the opportunity for minors to submit naughty/porn for approval is not acceptale in a T rated game. And stratics defending the right to submit a M rating image is clearly wrong. (yes I understand just because its submitted it will be declined, but the whole point is it is still being asked for and allowed to submitted by minors ((concidering this is T rated game, neither adults nor minors should be allowed to submit)).)
     
  2. Keep It Real

    Keep It Real Guest

    I'd like to THANK Luc and Parizad for the efforts they have made in controlling the content and taking the time to review all content that the adult players of this game have submitted to test the filters. It says a lot for a company that will go the extra mile to protect the youngsters who play this game, again THANK YOU!
     
  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Yes I totally agree that they have done their job in censoring. But again it should not have been asked for in a T rated game by either adults nor minors.
     
  4. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    But again it should not have been asked for in a T rated game by either adults nor minors.

    [/ QUOTE ]
    How else would it be tested?
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    And stratics defending the right to submit a M rating image is clearly wrong. (yes I understand just because its submitted it will be declined, but the whole point is it is still being asked for and allowed to submitted by minors ((concidering this is T rated game, neither adults nor minors should be allowed to submit)).)

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Leave Stratics out of this, we have nothing to do with what is, or is not asked for, accepted or posted in the game, the Wiki or the blog. [​IMG]
     
  6. Guest

    Guest Guest

    According to the rating, IT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN TESTED
     
  7. names

    names Guest

    hmmmm

    sorry mia [​IMG] but this is just a thought and I couldn't resist

    to stay within the teen ratings set under my agreements does this mean I may call a few moderators /dev's / or other players naughty names with out fear of reprisals by ea.

    or

    if they decide to move the game to mature ratings I can develop touretts.


    so being that I probably can't as that would be directing at individuals
    for the time being i have only 2 words.---------&gt;











    O.K (i'll behave)
     
  8. NightFlyer

    NightFlyer Guest

    I say rate the new EA Land Game M and there is no issue.

    Then add MORE adult content. May as well as it is looking more and more like SL everyday.

    I never thought it should have been rated T to begin with. *shrugs*

    Flame away all you wannabee babysitters.
     
  9. Guest

    Guest Guest

    OK WHAT EVER
     
  10. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    According to the rating, IT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN TESTED

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    You would rather a system be put into place where it is possible for adult content to be added by users because EA failed to test the system properly? Somehow I don't think you would have been happy about that.
     
  11. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I am not sure, exactly, what you are getting at, but any actions taken on your Stratics accounts for violation of Stratic's Rules of Conduct (and calling people names, vulgar or otherwise, is a violation of Stratic's RoC), have nothing to do with what happens to your game account....or vise versa....actions taken against your game account are not reflected on your Stratics account.

    Calling people rude names in the game, would be an unflattering reflection on you, but would not be actionable against your Stratics account, regardless of whether the names were T or M rated, directed at Moderators or non-moderators.
     
  12. names

    names Guest

    I am aware of how to conduct myself ty. both in game and on here.

    that is precisely why i stated "i'll behave"

    if you can't see the humourous side intended then sorry.
     
  13. Keep It Real

    Keep It Real Guest

    Ummm.....What exactly is the intent of this thread? If you are dissing Parizad for asking for us to test the filters I beleive she was asking for the ADULTS to test the system. I mean we all know children do not have porn or have access to it right? So I would say she was asking for the ADULTS to submit questionable material to make sure the filters they intend on using DO IN FACT protect the chillins playing this game. I do not see how her statement was aimed to provoke chillins into submitting porn or questionable material (which we all know they do not have right?). NOW, can we please put this to rest and stop reading more into what Parizad said than actually was? PLEASE!
     
  14. Guest

    Guest Guest

    In my opinion, the day they added a vibrating bed to this game is the day they should have had to make it a rating of M. But, for some reason, I do not understand, they get away with it. Those are in the offline game, which is also rated T. They added the aspiration to "woohoo" to their sims 2 game, also rated T. I'm not sure exactly who might not consider what goes on in the vibrating beds or "woohooing" being sexual content, but apparently it sneaks by somehow, I suppose it's because they make sure they aren't seen nude.

    As for the custom content, I have no doubt in my mind that in time, "nasty stuff" will slip through. I, for one, would like more adult content and I'm not talking porn on a stick, but then, knowing what goes on here, I would never let my kids play this game.
     
  15. <blockquote><hr>

    Flame away all you wannabee babysitters

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Lol I agree. Kids will be curious kids, adults will always be sexual. If people don't like boobs and naughty lingerie or other arousing images then they can cover their eyes and go back to sucking their thumbs in the corner of the room.
     
  16. Guest

    Guest Guest

    my point exactly
     
  17. Guest

    Guest Guest

    You would rather a system be put into place where it is possible for adult content to be added by users because EA failed to test the system properly? Somehow I don't think you would have been happy about that.

    Being a T rated game this shouldn't even be an issue. In a teen rating I see no part starting sexual content is allowed. therefore, once again I go back to my original statement this part of the CC should not be allowed UNTIL it is a M rating if this is the intention of EA. The rating bears no approval for testing for a possible other game or rating. It is still rated T. I would expect a screening to be set up, but by asking for naughty/porn is not acceptable in a T rating. The rating does not say T unless your an adult. that is why they have M ratings.
     
  18. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I am not dissing anybody. First it did not say adults only but was open to all. (and a T rating don't state sexual content is acceptable if your an adult) AGAIN this is rated T therefore adult content is not acceptable. If sexual content is to be tested then it should be in a M or higher game rating. This in no way is a diss on anybody, its just pointing out the rating of this game. and Oh yes children have no accesss to porn ha ha but again, a T rated game is not the place for these submissions. This is not reading more into what Parizad said (which where have I brought up anybody's name until now responding to you? I could be wrong, but you are the only one bringing up names in this thread) yes i think as an adult it was funny, but the requests for submits don't belong in this game as it stands right now.
     
  19. Guest

    Guest Guest

    or the game SHOULD NOT have a t rating and this should stop until it is one. I have no problem with these things, but lets change the rating first is all we are saying.
     
  20. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    I am not dissing anybody. First it did not say adults only but open to all. (and a T rating don't state sexual content is acceptable if your an adult) AGAIN this is rated T therefore adult content is not acceptable. If sexual content is to be tested then it should be in a M or higher game rating. This in no way is a diss on Parizad its just pointing out the rating of this game. and Oh yes children have no accesss to porn ha ha but again, a T rated game is not the place for these submissions. This is not reading more into what Parizad said yes i think as an adult it was funny, but the requests for submits don't belong in this game as it stands right now

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    WHAT are you talking about??

    THe reason THE FILTERS ARE TESTED IS TO PREVENT OF PORN BEING UPLOADED ONTO THE GAME

    Ok, About Vibrating beds, NOTHING is going on in there, they don't EVEN move, if you seen "plain" defualt skin of a sim, neither of them have anything sepcial in there except for six pack for like undies or so, they don't even have WeeWee or PeePee or whatever
    NOTHING is going in there, NOTHING

    People still create a lot of porn in game, via Roof Art, you can paint some naked girl and EA can't remove it at all. I think, they could but then that would be HURTFUL but Appropiate.

    YOu wanna KNOW SOMETHING REALLY SHOCKING, I am Teen.
    And Woohoo is not even REAL sex.

    You should be intilligent, it doesn't say Have sex in bed on Pie Menu
    it says PLay In bed, so they make weird noises, just imagine they have toy soldiers and some dogs so and a torch, so that's what is going on in there. Pretty East,
     
  21. First of all, if teens or younger are uploading porn or nudity or even suggestive content to be tested, there parents need a good firm talking to for not monitering their childrens computer time more diligently or for not installing parental controls and changing that password more frequently. If they don't have time to watch what their kids are doing, there is a problem. And before anyone goes there, yes, I am a mother. I"m a single mother with a full time job And I know exactly what my child is doing on the computer and exactly when she is doing it, so trust me... it can be done.
    Second, if the filtering of content is not tested, then it is a guarantee that inappropriate content will show up in game.
    Stratics doesn't make the rules. Exactly where do they come into play in all of this? The devs are out there and make themselves available for discussions. Last I checked, they were in charge as far as the game goes.
     
  22. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    <blockquote><hr>

    You would rather a system be put into place where it is possible for adult content to be added by users because EA failed to test the system properly? Somehow I don't think you would have been happy about that.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Being a T rated game this shouldn't even be an issue. In a teen rating I see no part starting sexual content is allowed. therefore, once again I go back to my original statement this part of the CC should not be allowed UNTIL it is a M rating if this is the intention of EA.

    [/ QUOTE ]
    I agree, in a T rated game, sexually explicit content is not and should not be allowed. Allowing user to create such content by way of Custom Content should not and is not allowed. EA has obviously done an EXCELLENT job of making certain such custom content is not inserted in the game.
    Wouldn't you agree?
     
  23. <blockquote><hr>

    First of all, if teens or younger are uploading porn or nudity or even suggestive content to be tested, there parents need a good firm talking to for not monitering their childrens computer time more diligently or for not installing parental controls and changing that password more frequently. If they don't have time to watch what their kids are doing, there is a problem. And before anyone goes there, yes, I am a mother. I"m a single mother with a full time job And I know exactly what my child is doing on the computer and exactly when she is doing it, so trust me... it can be done.

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    yeah good in theory, its a bummer that a child will always have that bit of curiosity in them to explore things even when momma dearest says its heinous and against the rules. barbie.com and friendly hellos is not always what your princess will be doing online. no that doesnt mean shes googling porn, but she easily could be chatting with a friend who had more than a tutor session over the weekend.
     
  24. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    TEEN
    Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    On the back of all my TSO cases it says

    TEEN
    Comic Mischief
    Mature Sexual Themes
    Mild Violence

    Under the ESRB warning on the front it says

    Game Experience May Change During Online Play.
     
  25. Guest

    Guest Guest

    excuse me, I agree parents should know and be aware but AGAIN the game is a T rated game and the point of this thread is T rated not M rated and not wether it is being monitored by parents or EA. The bottom line is IT don't belong in a T rated game
     
  26. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    As for the custom content, I have no doubt in my mind that in time, "nasty stuff" will slip through. I, for one, would like more adult content and I'm not talking porn on a stick, <u>but then, knowing what goes on here, I would never let my kids play this game.</u>


    [/ QUOTE ]
    NOIP
    There, ya see? That's the point. "T" rating or not, there is no way I would let my kids play this game. Any parent that can not see through the myth of game ratings is not paying attention.

    Trying to sanitize it to protect the kiddies is a Sisyphusian task.


    *Look it up*
     
  27. Fool at TC

    Fool at TC Guest

    IMHO, this game shouldn't even have a rating. The only reason it does was because for a short while it was sold in stores. Correct me if I'm wrong, but does SL have a rating? There?

    Even before custom content, people would make roofart that resembled some hooters or what not. If parents don't think the game is suitable for their kid, then that is their problem, and should be their responsibility to monitor the game.
     
  28. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I agree, in a T rated game, sexually explicit content is not and should not be allowed. Allowing user to create such content by way of Custom Content should not and is not allowed. EA has obviously done an EXCELLENT job of making certain such custom content is not inserted in the game.
    Wouldn't you agree?

    Yes I agree they have done their job and screened properly I would even say throughly so far, but in your above statement you can't say "is not allowed to be created" is incorrect being some have created and submitted and thankfully rejected. The point I am trying to make is the option at this point in time in a T rated game should not be asked of. I am not in any way going after the development team, I just feel an oversight in this CC has occured with the rating of the game. This is not putting anybody to blame.
     
  29. The sexual images ppl used to test the CC DIDN'T get into the game in the final analysis - it was filtered out by the devs beforehand - so there was no violation of the game's T rating on their part.

    So your point is??
     
  30. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    Yes I agree they have done their job and screened properly I would even say throughly so far, but in your above statement you can't say "is not allowed to be created" is incorrect being some have created and submitted and thankfully rejected.

    [/ QUOTE ]
    I haven't attempted to make custom content yet so I haven't witnessed the exact process, are you saying the inappropriate content was created before it was rejected?

    [​IMG]
     
  31. **TTL**

    I think the point being put forward by the author of this thread is that, since TSO is rated "T," EA should not have asked for players to submit naughty material (that being an inappropriate suggestion to make to a kid). And, that the suggestion was made worse when it was further suggested that submitted porn at least have pretty people in it.

    I think the author of this thread pictures a little kid reading those invitations and wanting to join in the test.

    That is my take on the point.

    Anyone who has played TSO for more than a few weeks knows there are young kids in the game, and also knows those kids are witness to chat and behaviors that are way outside the "T" rating. Some players serve as online babysitters for these kids and attempt to keep their game experience wholesome. Other times, the kids are good at acting the part of older players (way older [​IMG]).

    The world is full of parents who are not paying attention to what their kids are doing online.

    Changing to "M" will make the guidelines clearer, but it won't change the population of young ones in the game, or alter what they are exposed to. IMO.
     
  32. krazykara

    krazykara Guest

    Don't want to bring up the obvious, but what are kids under the recommended age playing this game in the first place? Most of us knows what goes on and what can happen in this game. Especially in private chat. Can you imagine some perv doing that to a young kid?
    Personally I think it is great they want to test their filters. I much rather they test it now before it goes live and then find out it isn't filtering out the 'naughty' stuff.
     
  33. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    <blockquote><hr>

    TEEN
    Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    On the back of all my TSO cases it says

    TEEN
    Comic Mischief
    Mature Sexual Themes
    Mild Violence

    Under the ESRB warning on the front it says

    Game Experience May Change During Online Play.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    QFT, especially that last sentence.

    Personally, I don't let my 13-year old son play online games. He's too immature and would find himself in trouble he can't handle. This is not because online games are bad, or because online games are bad for all teenagers -- my husband and I, as his parents, judge online games to be more than our child can handle.

    I am forced to assume that any youngsters playing this game have been judged by their parents as being mature enough to handle these situations. That's not a big leap, actually -- I can see some kids being ready for an online social game.

    I think that there is a responsibility that a rated 'T' online game has to me as a parent to take reasonable precautions to make sure that kids aren't exposed to anything too heinous. Custom content is tricky, tricky, tricky, and something is going to have to be tested. I didn't get that teenagers were being encouraged to upload 'naughty' content, I got that we as a community were encouraged to do so to test the filters. I inferred that meant the adults in the community, and I think that is a reasonable interpretation of the request. I have faith that at this step, all custom content is being reviewed manually regardless, so nothing heinous is getting through to the kids.

    Now, if kids are creating that content and uploading it, there's absolutely nothing EA can do about that -- except make sure they can filter it out, which is what this test is all about.

    I do understand your concerns, because those same concerns are a lot of the reason for my personal decision concerning my son. But, I think that these circumstances are very well controlled and pose little to no risk to the younger members of our community. And, this coming from what my son swears is the most over-protective mom...like, EVAH! :)
     
  34. Guest

    Guest Guest

    ok we have to stop meeting like this

    I haven't attempted to make custom content yet so I haven't witnessed the exact process, are you saying the inappropriate content was created before it was rejected?

    From my understanding you would have to create an image before you could send in for approval or rejection. Would you submit a blank image expecting to get it approved or rejected?
     
  35. To me the word "naughty" would fall under a "suggestive theme". No one was asked specifically to submit porn. I am mature enough to understand that Parizad was making a joke when she commented on ugly porn and was not specifically asking anyone to send her good looking porn.

    Over the past 5 years I have played along side many players that were 13 years old. Hell, I've helped raise at least a dozen. I have been exposed to more suggestive themes and adult language by these teens than most adults in game.

    I want to see systems put in place to protect me! I am grateful to anyone that had the nerve to test the filters.
     
  36. Keep It Real

    Keep It Real Guest

    Maybe you should take this up with Parizad through PM or chat with her ingame. I doubt this forum has the ability to change the statements made by her. You could also email EA and voice your concerns/issues about this.
     
  37. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    ok we have to stop meeting like this

    <blockquote><hr>

    I haven't attempted to make custom content yet so I haven't witnessed the exact process, are you saying the inappropriate content was created before it was rejected?

    [/ QUOTE ]

    From my understanding you would have to create an image before you could send in for approval or rejection. Would you submit a blank image expecting to get it approved or rejected?

    [/ QUOTE ]
    Yes, that is my understanding as well. You would, completely on your own and outside of TSO, create an image. How is EA supposed to police that?
     
  38. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I think that there is a responsibility that a rated 'T' online game has to me as a parent to take reasonable precautions to make sure that kids aren't exposed to anything too heinous. Custom content is tricky, tricky, tricky, and something is going to have to be tested. I didn't get that teenagers were being encouraged to upload 'naughty' content, I got that we as a community were encouraged to do so to test the filters. I inferred that meant the adults in the community, and I think that is a reasonable interpretation of the request. I have faith that at this step, all custom content is being reviewed manually regardless, so nothing heinous is getting through to the kids.

    First I would like to say excellent post. I agree with almost all things you say. but As a community this includes all persons playing the game. Which according to the ESRB it clearly does not state sexual content. EA has a good reputation and as a parent if I were to purchase this having a T rating I would assume EA would not allow any form of sexual content. which we know is all around in peoples words (which ea cannot police 24/7) But my arguement is this should be changed to a M rating if they want images sent with 'naughty' to be tested. The words bring on the naughty things only encourages young minds. Yes I think its great EA does catch them but it still should not be there to even submit. Unfortunatly in a teen rating you can't pick and choose minors verses adults. ALL I asked was this should have had a warning or this part of the CC should have waited until EA changed the rating like they said they were. (if they still intend to)
     
  39. <blockquote><hr>

    The words bring on the naughty things only encourages young minds. Yes I think its great EA does catch them but it still should not be there to even submit. Unfortunatly in a teen rating you can't pick and choose minors verses adults. ALL I asked was this should have had a warning or this part of the CC should have waited until EA changed the rating like they said they were. (if they still intend to)


    [/ QUOTE ]

    Encourages young minds?....you mean see things that they already know exsits? EA could have just said have at er peeps and just let the custom content flow like SL, but no, they took the time and effort to implement measures to curb the amount of these escalading images(this has been repeated numerous times in this board). These ****ing kids have the images ON THEIR COMPUTER PRIOR TO UPLOADING, how can you say they should not be allowed to upload them at all when there is no way of knowing if they are explicit unless a filter checks them out?

    Yeah its not neccessarily great to know that this stuff is in the game in the form of custom content, but if you do not like it....move on and do not allow your grandchildren to see you playing this game. EA is a big company, 1 voice saying "its not fair" will not make them change the rating. If they see that more and more of these images are somehow being allowed, then maybe they will change the rating to be suitable for the content material. As of now however I do not believe they should put the sticker of M on this game when it is in a TEST PROCESS.
     
  40. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    this part of the CC should have waited until EA changed the rating like they said they were. (if they still intend to)

    [/ QUOTE ]
    They said they intended to change the rating? When and where did they say that? I did a quick search of the chat logs from over the summer and didn't see it mentioned. Can you provide a link?
     
  41. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I thought I said we have to stop meeting like this [​IMG]

    Yes, that is my understanding as well. You would, completely on your own and outside of TSO, create an image. How is EA supposed to police that?

    But is it not submitted in the game? which brings up my suggestion of a warning again that EA would NOT tollerate any form of sexual contents, or changing the rating of this game. I would not be opposed to the adult content if this had a different rating and if Ea plans to change this this part of the CC should have waited. I will go on record for saying I myself would be pleased to see the rating to M like it should have in the first place. Or, I'm not sure if this could be done but making EA LAND two seperate levels of play M and T.thus allowing young teens to still play tso.
     
  42. <blockquote><hr>


    They said they intended to change the rating? When and where did they say that? I did a quick search of the chat logs from over the summer and didn't see it mentioned. Can you provide a link?

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Milton, during one of the pub meetings a few weeks ago Lee mentioned that the game may need to change rating, depending on CC. At that same meeting it was also put forth that CC was going to be rated in the game, so that players could choose to filter out, or at least not view, certain CC. This, Lee said, would be a process monitored by the community as, he pointed out, EA does not have the staff to approve every piece of CC that will be submitted.

    This was during a pub chat, so any or all of the above statement may be completely wrong and/or outdated by now.
     
  43. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Thank you for posting this saves me the time of trying to find your post when you first reported what you heard that night in the pub. And being things are subject to change is why I have always IF this is still their intention
     
  44. <blockquote><hr>

    I have been exposed to more suggestive themes and adult language by these teens than most adults in game.

    I want to see systems put in place to protect me! I am grateful to anyone that had the nerve to test the filters.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Thank you, Gracie! That's the thing - it's not the game that makes it 'naughty', it's the player that does...

    Custom content IS tricky - but the lack of it has always been my biggest complaint with TSO. I make my own custom content for Sims 2 - skins, object meshes, etc., and am so looking forward to this being added - have been waiting years for this.

    Adding CC, thus giving players more creative control to enhance their gaming experience in TSO, is a brilliant thing to ensure the game's survival. And kids will always find a way to get 'naughty' stuff, regardless of whether it's PG-rated or not. I've seen some of my daughter's downloads for Sims 2, i.e., ahem, nude skins, etc. And, quite frankly, it doesn't bother me, since in her confidence I know, at 13, she's already level-headed enough to handle the realities of life, and her mind won't be tragically corrupted by such artificial things as pictures in a video game. Crikey, she sees worse on the 6 o'clock news than what TSO could ever throw at her. Kids will be kids, and are curious by nature, and where there's a will there will always be a way. [​IMG]
     
  45. <blockquote><hr>

    per the ESRB entertainment software rating board

    TEEN
    Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.

    MATURE
    Titles rated M (Mature) have content that may be suitable for persons ages 17 and older. Titles in this category may contain intense violence, blood and gore, <u> sexual content </u> and/or strong language.

    What part of these rating EA appears to not understand?


    [/ QUOTE ]


    My question is, what part of this rating do players not understand?

    Are not the players responsible for not abiding by the rules? Maybe players need to start remembering that they are play a 'T' for Teen Rated game.

    Just because EA isn't strictly enforcing the rules, doesn't mean players should think that they are above the rules and just blatantly ignore them either.

    I will continue to encourage the team to pursue more aggressive monitoring of the game for inappropriate game behavior. Love tubs and beds are nothing compared to some of the extremely crude behavior we as players have to put up with in the game. And if people want to be crude 'all the time' they can take it to im or yahoo and leave the rest of us out of it.
     
  46. Guest

    Guest Guest

    well we agree it is an endless task but EA don't need to be the one pushing a rock back down the hill by allowing it and encouraging it. Instead they should help push it up the hill so it can't roll down again.
     
  47. JRock

    JRock Guest

    I'm glad you mentioned this. I'm not a teen but I sure don't want to see mature content either. That's why I don't play the other copycat sim online game. It's downright ridiculous.

    Acting as a devil's advocate, I would hate to be a parent enjoying this game with my teen and happen to see some content that made me blush. Lol, like the other games online games similar to the sims which I probably can't mention here.
     
  48. <blockquote><hr>

    well we agree it is an endless task but EA don't need to be the one pushing a rock back down the hill by allowing it and encouraging it. Instead they should help push it up the hill so it can't roll down again.

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    I think we need to remember this is the preliminary testing of custom content being made available to the mass online population of TSO.

    I think that the team needs to figure out how the subject of 'mature rated content' is handled.

    You know....porn isn't the only thing that needs to be 'eliminated' from the custom content submissions. I would think that they are also looking at trying to eliminate items that show 'too much' violence like gruesomely bloody pics, hate/race bashing pics, and other such content that violates the rated 'T' game rating. I'm also wondering how they will handle 'copywrited' materials.

    If they can't 'test' the approval system in Test Center, then where CAN they test it?
     
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    I think the "T" rating covers the request for 'naughty' custom content, in the recent test, as well as a good deal of the more vulgar aspect of the game.......I do not feel that anything that has or is going on, warrants a Mature rating.

    1. Naughty ~ lacking in taste or propriety (Merriam-Webster Online)

    2. "T" Rating ~ TEEN ( Link to ESRB )
    Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.

    3. Online Rating Notice
    Online games that include user-generated content (e.g., chat, maps, skins) carry the notice "Game Experience May Change During Online Play" to warn consumers that content created by players of the game has not been rated by the ESRB.

    4. Teen content warnings listed on back of The Sims Online game box.
    *Comic Mischief
    *Mature Sexual Themes
    *Mild Violence



    The line between T~een rating and E~veryone rating, (which is suitable for age 6 and up), is being blurred in the OP's definitions of what are suitable for a Teen rated game. Children (under 13) should not be playing this game, and if they are, it is the parents responsibility to take care of them, it is not the game or the player's responsibility to moderate language or behavior, "just in case", there are children playing.

    Many people have posted here, and in the Wiki, that they do not want a sexually explicit or violent/gory game, images of which would be allowed under a Mature rating, but I have never seen anyone express the wish to turn this into a sanitized kid's game, either.

    I think "T" is the correct rating for this game....naughty, but not sexually explicit or violently graphic.
     
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    4. Teen content warnings listed on back of The Sims Online game box.
    *Comic Mischief
    *Mature Sexual Themes
    *Mild Violence

    FIRST i have the link already. second, all my cases of the sims DO NOT have this, all mine say is T and game experience my change during online play.
    I am waiting from ESRB for a clarification on this as I did contact them already yesterday. and would like to know why some say that and some DO NOT say that for the same game.

    The rating E has no barring since that is for everybody and E has never been brought to the issue the issue is between T and M rating, which is clarified in my original post (copied off the ESRB home page)