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[Archery] Shadowlords final battle template

Discussion in 'UO Warrior' started by Odin of Europa, Jul 25, 2009.

  1. Odin of Europa

    Odin of Europa Lore Master
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    I'm really looking forward to the final battle with the Shadowlords. The conclusion to whats been happening the last few months, hopefully a great battle with some strong Shadowlords, not like the current Manifestations, which seem weaker then the Ethereals from Moonglow .. and of course the three Shards of the Gem of Immortality.

    I'm not going to hold my breathe for one of those, they'll be really sought-after, and being the top damager isn't something I find easy to be. But if you don't try, you never succeed, so I've been thinking of what template to use.

    I was going to use my necro mage weaver, but I started to lean more towards my tamer as WoD hasn't been so good against Shadowlords so far.

    But I read a post saying this would be the time that archers would come out and play, and several replies to posts about this being a tamers event, saying archers out damage tamers. I've also seen some discussions about spamming a special move, Armor Ignore? and always getting a cloak even without casting Armageddon.

    So archers seem to be highly praised for damage output.

    What templates will you be using for the final battle? Archer? What kind? If not an archer, what else?

    My current archers template is
    Anatomy 110
    Archery 120
    Chivalry 80
    Healing 100
    Necromancy 100
    Resist 110
    Tactics 100

    I'm not sure if its a high damage template or not, tbh I don't use my archer that often.

    I know the ABC is a favoured template, but with the kind of competition I think there will be, getting honor might be a problem .. but you can still get critical hits even without honoring?

    Would spamming Armor Ignore be a good way for maxing damage? I read the specials move book and it said,
    "Ignores the Target's resists but deals slighty lower damage then the weapon's maximum potential."
    So wouldn't it be best to just fire as normal and get the weapon's max damage potential?

    Any hints, tips, tricks or help would be appreciated, thanks for reading :)
     
  2. Dimebag

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    IMO it will be sampires time to shine, wether its with archery or swords/mace/fence.

    i have tried my necromage tamer on the current shadow lords and i got low dmg output vs them. there was 5 people at this one and i didnt get top 3:(

    tried my chiv archer with the same result.

    but everytime, never fail, sampire for the top dmg, even if i dont get an honor onto it.

    so i will be hauling a$$ with my sampire to this event if i am online at that time:p

    basic sampire template although im running SS instead of anat/tact for the heal and curse wep life leech. hope this helps a bit.
     
  3. NBG

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    From what I have seem Tamer with well trained pack instinct animals?
     
  4. Odin of Europa

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    Dimebag - Yeh, I was also thinking about using my sampire, but the post about it being the time for archers to come out and play put a whole new thought in my head.

    I might try stoning bush over to my archer.

    NBG - Packs is another good option, I've read some good things about Frenzied Ostards. I'll have to check my stable, see if I have enough space to work a pack.


    Hmm, decisions decisions :wall:

    Thanks for the replies guys :thumbsup:
     
  5. I posted my archer template in the other thread where you asked about it. He's already tried and tested against the SL's, walking out of Moonglow with over 200 cloaks, at least half of which were obtained merely by outdamaging at least 1 of the first 3 to use blackrock on them.
     
  6. Odin of Europa

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    Yeh I saw thanks :)

    I'm guessing 150 dex for max healing speed?

    Swing speed works on stam doesn't? I think I remember reading that somewhere anyway .. could do with some stam increase on my gloves sleeves and legs I guess, I'm currently using

    Mace & Shield Glasses
    Jackal's Collar
    Rune Beetle Carapace
    Crafted arms - 5/24/9/17/17
    Crafted gloves - Stam inc 8, 20/23/5/21/9
    Crafted legs - Mana inc 7, LMC 8, 6/24/168/7
    Ring - Str 6, Dex 7, HCI 11, DCI 12, DI 22
    Bracelet - Dex 6, HCI 11, DI 23
    Crimson Cincture
    Conjurer's Trinket

    Brings me to

    Str 131 / 125 HP
    Dex 150 / 158 Stam
    Int 29 / 66 Mana
    66/70/70/64/59

    I can swap a few skills around, then need to find a decent bow .. maybe one of the 50 ssi from the invasion, or a Dryad bow.
     
  7. That's correct. At 150 Dex you have 4 second heals.


    That's correct. Your stamina determines your swing speed, which is why I use Resist on my archer. He can be cursed by anything in game and not lose a single tick off his swing speed. Apples have timers which kills them for PvM, and Remove Curse stops you from firing until it's done casting, which costs you in DPS. While others are using their workarounds, I haven't missed a lick.


    I'd suggest you drop the Jackal's and find a crafted gorget with SI, MI, and MR. You also need to do something about your energy resist. 59 is pretty low. You could use more stamina too. You might also take a look at incorporating Stormgrip into your suit. With it's 25 DI and Int 8, it's a really good piece to add to an archer's suit. My archer's stats are:

    Str 114/122
    Dex 150/173
    Int 53/105

    I wouldn't suggest you use either of those bows. Instead find something that has 30+ SSI and mana leech. HLD is also nice to have to complement the M&S glasses.
     
  8. Odin of Europa

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    Eek! More to change then I thought, ow well ..

    Thanks for the help Connor :)

    I'll go have a look at my armour and see what I can come up with.
     
  9. Odin of Europa

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    Ok, I've had a sort through of my skills and armour and come up with the following:

    Anatomy 100
    Archery 120
    Bushido 120
    Chivalry 80
    Healing 100
    Resist 100
    Tactics 100

    Mace and Shield Reading Glasses
    Gorget - Stam inc 7, MI 7, RPD 9, LMC 6, 7/11/5/8/6
    Rune Beetle Carapace
    Arms - Stam inc 6, LMC 5, 6/17/14/11/8
    Stormgrip
    Legs - Stam inc 5, LMC 7, 8/20/17/7/6
    Snake Skin Boots
    Ring of the Vile
    Bracelet - Dex 6, HCI 11, DI 23
    Crimson Cincture
    Cloak of Power
    Conjurer's Trinket

    Which gives me

    Str 118 / 119 HP
    Dex 150 / 168 Stam
    Int 36 / 73 Mana
    61/65/70/64/62

    And I found this
    Elven Composite Longbow
    HSL 44
    HML 28
    FC 1
    SSI 40
    DI 32

    According to this page, I should be swinging at max, 1.25, with that bow and 168 stam.

    Not bad, I'd prefer it if that was a Composite Bow, but ow well .. I should hopefully do some nice damage with this :)
     
  10. That sounds like a solid setup other than the bow. The one you have will certainly work well for ya though until you can find a comp, bow, crossbow, or heavy crossbow.
     
  11. RichDC

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    Heres a simple template im going to use.

    Bush archer in wraith form with 60ish SS 0 necro.
     
  12. Stupid Miner

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    Actually, judging by the Luna invasions love of tormented minotaurs, and GL's final invasion fight had a shadowlord with a 1 hit kill area effect attack, it might be better to have an archer. They really seem to like monsters with 1 hit kill area effect attacks. If you have 150 HP you might be ok, but I've been hit for 141 by a minotaur.
     
  13. Barry Gibb

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    Find another archer that knows how to cross-heal. If they don't know how, teach them. You will rarely run into trouble with cross-healing. In the four seconds it takes to heal yourself, you will have been healed twice by the other character (2 second heals).

    Stayin Alive,

    BG