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Shard Shields on Vendors

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Madrid, Mar 28, 2013.

  1. Madrid

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    Several months ago I considered buying Shard Shields off vendors and was close to pulling the trigger but I did my research prior to throwing my money away. I thought perhaps if it was in token form I would be good to go.

    Now I'm seeing them on Vendors again.:loser:

    Yes, Caveat Emptor, if your going to spend 30M-80M you should know better. However...

    If Shard Shield are going to be allowed on vendors then remove the account bound. This should have been the case on day 1. The Devs are opening up the door to players getting screwd over and getting potentially scammed by allowing these Shard Shields to be placed on Vendors.

    Vendor to Owner "I cannot sell that for you. Only a scumbag would attempt deceive others and sell account bound items."

    This is something that needs fixed. Please add to the list.
     
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  2. Lady Storm

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    Madrid no
    No to making them for all to use and removal of the account bound status.
    The reason you mightbe seeing them on vendors is quite easy to understand and see how that can be. As with all co owned players they placd their shields on the others home. The owner can take it down.. not use but take it down if the other has been removed from the house list. Or at IDOC's the shields just might return to deed form at the drop time like all the other place blocking items do. This does not address your need to buy these items as you said.. I am truly sorry you think these must join the hundreds of sellable rewards out there.. I feel the dev did something right with these. I beleave that if you paid for the years the gift should reflect it.
     
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  3. weins201

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    they can still be used for decoration :-0 not worth 30 mil but if you get one at an IDOC why not be able to sell it
     
  4. S_S

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    I agree with Madrid on this issue. Just asking for scammers to try and cash-in on this one.
     
  5. Madrid

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    Let him sell the shard shield via auction or do a bag o' gold and trade if someone wants a 80M deco item.

    Items that are account bound should not be allowed on vendors...period.

    It's opening the door for people to get scammed and get taken advantage of.

    Allowing account bound items on vendors has Shyster written all over it and right now with the Devs blessing.

    @ LadyStorm

    I didn't want to go there but you opened the door.:p..

    So now that were on that topic....let's make available Shard Shields available to the general public at the UOStore being that they never should have been introduced to begin with and the fact that Shard shields are the unbalancing item in the history of UO.
     
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  6. Lord Frodo

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    Well if a buyer doesn't know what "ACCOUNT BOUND" means then they souldn't be buying stuff. Every one of you soulstones say the same thing and I am sure that by the time you have amassed 80M gold you would know that too. Why would you even have to research this if in fact you have played UO for any amount of time or do you just come on here and flame stuff.
    You are free to buy all the Xfer Tokens you want and will be able to take a lot more items with you. And as far as unbalancing UO I think AoS, you know Age of Sh*t, holds that and would take a whole lot more than just Shard Shields to beat it.
     
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  7. Lord Nabin

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    There does have to be some ownership and accountability on the buyers part.

    Lord knows I have learned with some purchases in the past. These have been out for a long time now.

    Do your research and know what you are buying.

    Quit blaming everyone else for your own lazy approach.

    We are operating in a sandbox community
     
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  8. Lady Storm

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    if your willing to give up 80 mil for it ......i got a cheap bridge in brit i can sell you for a song......
     
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    How much and what is the storage on it?
     
  10. budman23

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    This sounds like someone extorting money out of an owner of an item that is strictly account bound.
    Much like people selling back others soulstones.
    The only good is i can see at least the owner gets a chance to get the item back.
    The item has account bound written all over it unlike soulstones but they both are allowed to be sold and not owned.
    Removing the system might stop extortion but kind of screws the owners.
     
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    I sometimes wonder if this is not a set up......

    I mean we all know that the shard shields are account bound. And as is pointed out here they Say Account Bound..... Unless you been living under a rock in Yew...

    The sale of the Shard Shield deed is unfortunate if it is to the original owner/account.... perhaps I might suguest a remidy if it was taken eroniously...
    How about if a owning account of the Item in question the minute they access the vendor an account bound item auto transfers to the main bag of the owning account. No gold required... And for those pesky soul stones.... if the owner spots their stone on say another's property, just use in the context menu "Retrieve" that should be added for this use will put the stone back in their pouch. Might be a good thing on the Shard Shield menu as well.... this way if said shield deed is locked down where the owning account can access it they can retrieve their Shield.
    This would make the 80mill seem very very high in that off chance that the owner shows up and claims it. (i'd also put the owners name on them as well)
    Just an idea there Dev.... might save a few fights.
     
  12. Xalan Dementia

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    If it isnt too much work to code, just make the shard shields unable to be placed on a vendor or just 'no trade'
    Maybe do a pass to cause any and all account bound items to no longer be vendorable (except maybe soulstones)
     
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    My Rock is in Minoc, thank you very much...
     
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    Can they even be placed as deco or is the "account bound" aspect only for generating tokens? If it can only be used in ANY manner by the original owner, than I agree they shouldn't be allowed on vendors.

    I show an account bound tag on all my shields when in token form. True that people should investigate that term, but if it can't be used in any manner seems like a good idea just to disallow them on vendors like insured items.
     
  15. budman23

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    The problem you face here is the real owners will never see their stuff on vendors after word gets around this happens.
    Either their items would be destroyed or they would just get extorted off vendors.

    It is nice you mean well, thats obvious, but it probably would just make it so no one got anything back then.
     
  16. Olahorand

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    My position is still, that the shield deeds should not be account bound. The age requirement is a high enough border. The developers should make the collection from the placed shield and the tokens generated during the placement account bound, but not the deed. (I'm not sure, if the shield should produce tokens for the placing account or still for the original owner in this case - I would prefer the first.)
    This would at least regulary allow to trade the shields between own accounts (currently I have shields sitting on 3 different accounts) or to people, who collect such stuff.
     
  17. Lady Storm

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    Olahorand ..... there is just one tiny flaw in the ointment there kiddo....
    Friends dont always see eye to eye and fighting does develop from time to time even in a game..... all it takes is one to get super pissy pants and woops there goes the other ones Shard shields he has at that friends house. de friend ... then sell the shields .... can make super enemys and alot of bad feelings and dont tell me this senerio cant happen....
    I have seen 2 old friends in rl go off on one another and next thing i hear is threats of law suits in rl for things that went off in game when one of them went on a revenge binge.

    Budman23 I said no charge if the owner opened the vendor bag. IT would be an auto pop in the owners bag apon a chick on the item in the bag.... sortof a retrieve for vendor stock.

    I do honestly understand the want to remove the account part off the shields... some players dont have points to spare because of other things wanted over the years, hence the lack of selections some of us have. I did ask the dev to consider to up the rewards points to 5 if the player was over 15 years in game... As many this age dont have alot of selection points left. But I see why it was put on the shields....

    Look if its not age and selection choices that are gone its one matter... but think guys .. yes they are nice. I see a use for them for all but the Dev would be amiss to give them for everyones use... even thought you say you will still buy the full move tokens... one has to wonder of how much that is true.. EA likes its $... even if they are idiots over there on theOrigin store...