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Sheilds Bushido and Parry

Discussion in 'UO Warrior' started by 5% Luck, Dec 11, 2007.

  1. 5% Luck

    5% Luck Guest

    Now I run bushido on all my warriors. One is a tamer and one is a bard. Id like to keep using my shields for the bonuses. Am I lowering my skill based DCI by wearing a shield and NOT having parry?
     
  2. Ravenspyre

    Ravenspyre Guest

    There is no skill based DCI. You are lowering your parry chance though.
     
  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    You might as well have zero parry if you're going to use bushido and a shield. Bad idea.
     
  4. 5% Luck

    5% Luck Guest

    Thats what said was that i have 0 parry gm bushido and gm maceing I am wearing a shield. Will that lower my (DCI non item) <--weapons skill "get missed chance"
     
  5. DO NOT USE A SHIELD WITH BUSHIDO

    Whatever mods are on your shield are not worth being constantly hit by everything in the world (including dust) moving in your general direction.

    Seriously though, if you have 15 dci on your shield, and you have GM parry/bush, your parry chance will be 5%, even if you had max DCI (45%, 15 from shield i assume), it's definately better to have no shield, 30% parry with a 1 handed wep, and then 30% dci.

    It doesnt get stacked I don't think, and I really have no clue how UO adds all this crap up, but I do know that shield+bushido=really bad idea if you actually want to avoid getting hit.
     
  6. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    Thats what said was that i have 0 parry gm bushido and gm maceing I am wearing a shield. Will that lower my (DCI non item) &lt;--weapons skill "get missed chance"

    [/ QUOTE ]

    No it will not affect your DCI. I don't know why you'd want Bushido without Parry, but to each his or her own [​IMG]
     
  7. Oh I too failed to realize he has no parry...

    I really didn't expect it.
     
  8. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Kinda like ordering an ice cream cone without the ice cream, eh? [​IMG]
     
  9. imported_GFY

    imported_GFY Guest

    If you want to use a shield just have parry not bushido. You'll get a dci bonus from parry, all the specials of the shield, but no bushido specials.
     
  10. Ravenspyre

    Ravenspyre Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    If you want to use a shield just have parry not bushido. You'll get a dci bonus from parry, all the specials of the shield, but no bushido specials.

    [/ QUOTE ][​IMG] I dunno if I have heard any more incorrect statements in my life.

    You DO NOT get DCI from parry skill. Defense Chance Increase is a modifier to the base hit/miss calculations, and is not affected by parrying or bushido at all. Blocking (aka parrying) is a seperate calculation performed after a hit/mizz calculation is done. Basically this is how the system checks;

    <font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
    Hit/Miss Calculation;
    if Hit goto Block Calculation;
    if Miss goto No Damage;

    Block Calculation;
    if Block goto No Damage;
    if No Block goto Resist Calculation;

    Resistance Calculation;
    Subtract Resisted Value from Total Damage to get Final Number;
    Apply Damage;
    End

    No Damage;
    if Attack Miss
    if Attack Blocked
    End</pre><hr />

    That's a rough idea of what the whole shebang looks like, though I am sure it's much more complicated and that's pretty much a layman's program right there.
     
  11. imported_GFY

    imported_GFY Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    <blockquote><hr>

    If you want to use a shield just have parry not bushido. You'll get a dci bonus from parry, all the specials of the shield, but no bushido specials.

    [/ QUOTE ][​IMG] I dunno if I have heard any more incorrect statements in my life.

    You DO NOT get DCI from parry skill. Defense Chance Increase is a modifier to the base hit/miss calculations, and is not affected by parrying or bushido at all. Blocking (aka parrying) is a seperate calculation performed after a hit/mizz calculation is done. Basically this is how the system checks;

    <font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
    Hit/Miss Calculation;
    if Hit goto Block Calculation;
    if Miss goto No Damage;

    Block Calculation;
    if Block goto No Damage;
    if No Block goto Resist Calculation;

    Resistance Calculation;
    Subtract Resisted Value from Total Damage to get Final Number;
    Apply Damage;
    End

    No Damage;
    if Attack Miss
    if Attack Blocked
    End</pre><hr />

    That's a rough idea of what the whole shebang looks like, though I am sure it's much more complicated and that's pretty much a layman's program right there.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Forgive my ignorance.

    I misrepresented dci bonus for chance to block.
     
  12. 5% Luck

    5% Luck Guest

    Well to clarify my template

    120 macing
    120 peace
    120 music
    100 tactic
    100 bushido
    68 chivalry
    92 focus

    Now the idea was to get crits for extra damage and honor for perfection damage bonus. I cant seem to find decent enough axes to enable Lumberjacking instead of bushido for the damage. So what would you sugest for a bigger damage boost? I know anatomy isnt better then bushidos crits/honor so???

    BTW I am currently pretty much capped to how high end i can fight but the fights are very very easy and i cant seem to get creatures to drop at a faster average per hour. I can do dragons and even shadow wyvern balrons and sucubus. But no paragons or peerless. Just the big badies of the old world in a 50s resist luck suit as a melle char is kinda fun! and with chiv/bush its fast!
     
  13. uotrunks

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    LOL reminds me of my old warriors temp minus the bushido and focus (because wasnt around)

    But the big reason why you cant do any thing more than the dragons and what not is peace dosnt work the same as it used to.