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Should Red Wandering Healers in Feluca that ressurect Blues and Reds res Grays as well?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by HP_Zoro_HP, Mar 18, 2013.

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Should Red Wandering Healers in Feluca red CRIMINALS (Grays) just like how they res MURDERERS (Reds)

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. HP_Zoro_HP

    HP_Zoro_HP Seasoned Veteran

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    ok so one thing that I have never understood is the line between a Murderous (Red) healer and resurrecting Murderous (Red) players and not ressurecting CRIMINAL (Gray) players. Now to me this makes absolutely no sense since I would think a MURDERER (Red) is far worse then being a CRIMINAL (Gray). Yet these wandering healers that are Murderers (Reds) only ressurect Blue or Red (Murderer) players. I propose that Red Wandering Healers ALSO Ressurect gray players because that's how it should have been from the start (I mean it makes sense for them to do so). If you woudl like for this to happen please vote in the Poll that I have created below and hopefully we can get the devs to view this page and vote to do so as well (or at the very least make this happen)!

    After you vote don't be afraid to let us know why you chose yes or no.
     
    #1 HP_Zoro_HP, Mar 18, 2013
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  2. hen

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    I voted no.
     
  3. Merus

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    First off, it's Fel... All healers should be red, it's Fel! Second, even a red healer will not res a red that is flagged criminal... That is how it should be IMO.
     
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  4. weins201

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    nope you thinking is flawed it is how it is supposed to be, grey and reds that are currently flagged are not resed, small penalty for committing criminal acts.
     
  5. Lythos-

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    I never understood why a red healer will rez both blues and reds but a red has to find a red healer only. 90% of the time if you're away from the gates, you might as well figure on spending 10min looking for one.
     
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    a red healer is a criminal type, he should always help out criminals whenever requested. it is lame that a red healer is a "good" type of person and will not res a criminal flagged char.
     
  7. Orgional Farimir

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    No. They need to have the timer in place. With that being said they need to replace every blue healer in fel with a red healer.
     
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  8. cdavbar

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    Blue Healers in Fel should only rez Blue Players and be hostile towards reds/greys. Red Healers in Fel should only rez reds and greys and be hostile towards blue players.
     
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  9. hen

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    I only voted no as the OP spelt Felucca wrong. One L of a place 2 C.

    I had to edit this several times but I was in the pub all night.
     
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  10. HP_Zoro_HP

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    The only reason I spelled it wrong is because I wouldn't have been able to fit the comma ")" after "Grays", so I dropped an "L from it.
     
  11. Viper09

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    I just say no. There needs to be some sort of timer on criminal actions.
     
  12. Cetric

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    It drives me insane when you are in the middle of no where, and find 5 blue healers before u find the red one lol
     
  13. hen

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    I had to edit my last post about six times as I' pissed so no probs.
     
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    It has nothing to do with being murderous or the act of murder.
    We are talking about a violent computer game; not real life in any way, shape or form.

    You can use all the out of context adjectives you want but it wont change the fact that if you are the agressor you should have to wait to get rezzed and back in the fight.

    The current flagging system has a few bugs but overall it works very well. If you are the agressor you dont hide in a house and you dont run away through a gate and you dont get rezzed by a wandering healer and right back in the fight.

    Why do you want to start bringing 'easy mode' into felluca?
     
  15. budman23

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    Let me guess this guy just discovered fel?

    This argument is 15 years over, and a waste of time and space.
     
  16. FrejaSP

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    I vores no too, it's fair as it is
     
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    That I think is an absurd assessment. Why do all players in Fel have to be red? Before Tram/Fel were there not blues and reds (and grey)? I stopped pvping years ago, but I still love fel. There should be an even mix of healers, and:

     
  18. Merus

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    You know we are talking about NPC healers in FEL. Red NPC healers in Fel still res blues, so changing all the wandering healers to red would not impact a blues ability to play AT ALL.
     
  19. FrejaSP

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    I just wish we could have red healers on all facets on Siege as we have fel ruleset on all facets.

    Both blue and red healers refuse to res crim flaged (grey) players, reds can be crim flaged too but the red color overrule it, however, if you die crim flaged, you have to wait for a healer ro rez you just like a blue crim flaget = grey.
    Now a blue attacking a red can rez right away, but a red attacking a blue can't so I really don't see your problem. Second, I really don't like blue PK's :p In old days, you would risk to end up red just for attacking a blue guy.
     
  20. SlobberKnocker

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    i love this idea.
     
  21. FrejaSP

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    I don't, it would only mean alot griefing from blue killing red healers and reds killing blue healers. If not broken, don't fix it!
     
  22. RazicGL

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    Being red and being flagged criminal are not the same, I think the system is pretty good as it stands, in fact I think all the healers in Fel should be red!
     
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    However if you would have read further in my post, where i quoted my earlier post you would have seen this:

    So, based on the scenario I suggested, it would impact other players.
     
  24. cdavbar

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    How is it different from now? I kill healers all the time already.
     
  25. Viper09

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    Because not everyone kills healers all the time...
    Finding a red healer isn't very easy a lot of the times. The last thing we need are red healers getting killed because they will always be hostile towards blues. Second, if we have both a red healer and blue healer in the same place, that is going to be a problem for the individual getting resed. Finally, and similar to the first one, a blue dies in the middle of nowhere, and all they find is a red healer wandering around, frustrating it would be...
     
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    So lets review...

    The OP suggests that red healers should ignore the criminal flag and res greys because they also res reds.

    I respond by saying that even red healers will not res a red who has a criminal flag, but that since it is fel that all healers should be red so that anyone who does not have an aggressor flag could get ressed when they find a healer.

    You then propose a complete change to all healers whereby making them aggressive toward the opposite karma players. You then critique my post as obsurd because it does not align with your subsequently proposed change. You then go even further to say that my proposed change would negatively impact players because blues would no longer be able to res in fel, again because if your subsequently posted idea.

    Perhaps you should reconsider the thread before you trash someone else's idea.

    The fact is, given the current status of healers, converting all healers in fel would have no negative impact on anyone's ability to find a healer and get ressed. It would however make the process of getting ressed a little easier for those who are confined to that facet.
     
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    Whoever voted yes just doesn't understand the flagging system and shouldn't have voted in the first place.
    Please people don't vote on things you don't understand.
     
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    You can always run to the Chaos Shrine - Talk about a pain in the butt, but on the plus side there won't be a 1000 people there waiting to gank you..

    I'd tie the healers to faction town control....

    -If Minax SL own a town, the area aroud town, its gates, shrine area and dungeon would spawn red healers that DO NOT res blues....(unless the blue is a member the same evil faction) (Priest of Minax and Priest of Shadow)

    -If TB or Com own a town, healers in that area spawn blue healers that res blues (will not res blues in opposing factions nor will they res reds of the same faction - harsh I know).

    All work the same in regard to current crim flagging in that Neither will res's someone in the midst of a criminal act.

    -Lore's Player
     
    #28 Lore Denin (GL), Mar 21, 2013
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  29. Zosimus

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    Bazinga!