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Should Shard Shields be for sale at UOGAMECODES?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by jack flash uk, Nov 10, 2011.

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Should Shard Shields go on sale on UOGAMECODES?

  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. jack flash uk

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    obviously i vote yes:)
     
  2. Specialshoes

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    I voted no because 'no' vet rewards should be for sale on UOGamecodes.
     
  3. Salivern_Diago

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    No, no, no and NO!

    Its a VET reward, wait till your a 14 year vet. We're all waiting, so why cant you?
     
  4. Lady Storm

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    Give it up Jack.

    NO.

    Petra best put a stp to this about the shield... its getting too much out of control. I can understand their want of the item but to pepper the board full of threads is a bit much.
     
  5. jack flash uk

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    personally i am a 7th year player, something this great should be available for those that want to buy, sorry but when the game came out i am training to be a firefighter and did not hve a computer

    BUT, these things will REALLY improve my love for this game, so i can visit far east shards with a decent char explore, enjoy take a trip to another shard, play a mega adventure and return home, re plan, amazing
     
  6. Specialshoes

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    There is a version for sale that will allow you to transfer to any shard instead of just one. And you don't really have to wait a month to get a new one either.
     
  7. jack flash uk

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    hehe getting my ar*e kicked here 5 to 1!!!!!

    looks my dream is going to go up in flames:(
     
  8. Salivern_Diago

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    I'ld love to have one too Jack, but the 14 year vets deserve it. They've been here the longest so they kinda deserve something useful for them.
     
  9. jack flash uk

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    well i would look to buy 10 or more shields and go on trips all round the shards, gather a collection of tokens and away i go, this is what i am hoping for, i dont intend to leave till they pull the plug, whenever that is, but for me a 7th year player 14 yr vet reward is a looooong way off

    so yes 14th year get a free reward, i wanna pay $15 each for the privilage

    and thats $150 EA wont get form me for xfer tokens, plus the illgal sites are selling job lots ofr xfer tokens (duped who knows), so I, and others like me buying from EA they get the $$$


    and , if i am to spend my money for game items who better to give it to than EA, it might just convince them that major items like these should go on sale more often:)
     
  10. weins201

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    14 year reward sorry

    by a regular transfer token as anyone less than 14 years is and should be doing.

    :sad2:
     
  11. jack flash uk

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    yes, and they get them for free, lesser mortals like myslef have to pay for them

    we can all enjoy the luxuary of xfer travel but at a $$$ cost


    also, the 14th year rares vets etc i know are the ones that can well afford and DO buy tokens so EA will lose masses of gold asthese guys wont be buying anymore

    so people like me will fill that void, as at present i dont buy the tokens but i will def buy shields
     
  12. THP

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    Its a NO brainer u gotts vote yes...going the same way as the 11th year house teleporters that were buyable and rechargeable with gate scrolls...would make perfect sense to me.............id buy a dozen!!!
     
  13. jack flash uk

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    Re: 14 year reward sorry

    good point, but i dont buy them, but i would buy the shields and plenty of them
     
  14. Wizal the Fox

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    The problem is the shard shield would have to be sold for a lot more than $15 since basically they produce a xfer token every month, even if slightly limited. Not to mention the 14th year vets paid at least $1680 in monthly fees alone. For both those reasons a shard shield would have to be sold for several hundred $, and I guess at that price you wouldn't buy them anyway.
     
  15. THP

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    the original transfer tokens were duped to high heaven...time to kick the dupers in the nuts...once and for all
     
  16. Serine

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    i Vote NO

    And jack say at it is you want free tokens for cross shard trading :arr:
     
  17. jack flash uk

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    cross shard trading i do with a list of great trusted players, i want the sheld so i can go see other shards buy nice things, bring things back , a whole host of things, if i have items yes bring them home too, also take items i have on europa to chars i am training on other shards for when i need a break

    i dont think i am hiding any devious plan, i want to do everything that my $15 per shield allows
     
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    where is the "@$&! NO!" option?
     
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    This is a great reward for a 14 yr player. But when new players didn't want to wait 3 years for an e-mount they came out with the Charger of the fallen.
    So maybe the should do the same here. You should get 1 token per year of playing ( 12yrs+ 1 a month, 6yrs 1 every other month, 1 yr only 1 a year etc.)
     
  20. Salivern_Diago

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    A Xfer token costs £19.99 so what makes you think they'll price the Shield at $15? (Which is less than a tenner). If they ever make it so its purchasable then It should be £59.99 as a minimum. Having it for $15 is just b******t, its worse than duping its flooding the market for something that would be sold for less than 20mil.

    I really do-not think you are thinking this though.

    This must NEVER happen, its absurd and completely insulting to the Vets.
     
  21. jack flash uk

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    I wonder if those that say no can elaborate a bit as well

    i take it NO because you dont want them, surely is not no and nobody else can have them?


    why would you not want others who are will to pay take the option, just asking?
     
  22. Salivern_Diago

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    I think I've stated my case quite clearly Jack. But in case, if your not a 14 year Vet then you dont deserve the reward. Otherwise, what the heck... just remove all restrictions to the Vet rewards and let every new account thats created take a pick of 20 odd items from the list of Vet rewards for free!

    Seriously though, It is a vet reward... Just leave it at that.
     
  23. Wizal the Fox

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    Because you deliberately avoid answering about the price. Again, I'm all for it to allow you to buy them, but NOT at $15. It should cost at least several hundreds.
     
  24. jack flash uk

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    why SHOULD it be hundreds of dollars? the fact that 1 sells for $15 is $15 more into the EA pot? event though i would buy loads i would NOT buy an xfer token, well 2 for a return trip, but what about all the other places i would like to go to?


    so like THP said, if xfers were duped, EA gets nothing, the gold ingame the dupers get

    this way, player that were not going to buy xfer tokens spend alot fo gold on shields


    and also, why should shard shield just be vet rewards, awesome as they are, the DEV's ,thought them up, they could have dropped into the game store along side game time, brit ships and undertakers staffs etc

    i WANT to buy them ,and presently there is no method of players like me buying the shields , and NO xfer tokens are not an alternative as there is no flexibility is travels opportunities adn they are a one hit wonder, i wouls liek to gather toekns like i statd about and jsut go have a look aorund

    so, what you guys are saying is i should just put my debit card away?

    I think its very interesting that you have strong opinions against it to stop people like me who want to BUY them

    thank you, but i cant get my head around it :(
     
  25. jack flash uk

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    now 12 to 5 against my dumb brain will need time to understand it

    but this is my first poll and i find it very interesting:)
     
  26. Salivern_Diago

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    Eh I had written a long post just now trynig to explain it all. But I dont think it'll ever be understood.

    In short the Vet has supported UO for years and is given something nice to say thank you. Now all those whom are not 14 year vets are insulting the Vet's loyality becuase they want one too and are throwing thier rattles out of the pram till they get it.
     
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    Jack, let me ask you this. How would you propose they reward the vets if it's not with something that everybody wants?
     
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    Obviously, I vote NO because the game needs as many sources of revenue it can to keep going.........

    One thing is allowing a few 14th Year accounts to get them, and generate 1 token per month, account bound, another is allowing any and all accounts to have access to them.....

    No, my vote is NO, undoubtedly.
     
  29. jack flash uk

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    the rewards is they do not have to buy such an item, like the teleporters, make the store shields a lesser item, i dont know 1 token every 2 month or something, the rugs, cannons etc are a great item that shows off vet status, but something that will help so many players i think is a good thing

    i have a small rares collection, to give an example, and i am about 5 2008 neon boxes short of a full collection, now these things are like rocking horse pooh, well to get 55 diff ones, now they pop u from time to time, i would love to be able to go get them and add to my collection while i am out and about as it were

    a bonus would be so that i dont have to wait or the rares fests that are organised and also the player sout there on other shards that have such items that want to sell will have a much LARGER custmoer base

    we can all agree for whatever reason xfer token have destroyed the local coolection and rare items are spread far and wide, too late for that to ever stop now, but i feel there is a need to allow younger players like to me to and get things to add to a collection, and i do not have the kind of gold laying around to buy tokens for 20m gold for the sort of journeys and adventures i want to partake in

    but as evil as it is, i will not be able to finish my neon box collection, my angel box collection etc without the means to zip about


    obviously these shields can be opened to abuse, i think the 14 yr rares vets example will abuse that with char on all shards going to em events and getting EM drops and fast tracking to ATL for mega sales, the vet CAN do this, but why sohuld i have to pay the mandatory 100m for a mesanna drop when i could be there enjoying the event as well, and take my treasures home?

    shoule this JUST be available to the already rich "upper class"?
     
  30. jack flash uk

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    but of course poops you are a 14th vet, or will be so of course you would vote this way

    but there is NO revenue form someone like me who will NOT buy the xfer tokens

    but WILL buy shields so they are NOT gaining revenue form me

    so i wonder jsut how many tokens are sold per month to "keep going"
    i bet that the mass of players that will buy shields would outweigh a token here or there don't you think
     
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    1) Because sadly the number of items limitation won't make them useful for non-traders to permamove, so they are going to be used mainly by traders to make a profit out of xshard trading. They already make A LOT profit from arbitrage between shards using regular tokens, so it would be ridiculous to give them a way to cheapen the process even more. Even if they sold the Shard Shields for 10 times the price of a regular token, those traders would turn that into profit in less than a year. You would need to put them at least at 20 to 30 times the price of a regular token so it takes at least 2 years for the traders to cover the cost. That means a price of $300-$450

    2) Because selling them for cheap would be an insult to vets who spent thousands.
     
  32. Zosimus

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    Agrees with Wizal :)

    It would have to be up in price to justify the loss the costs of regular transfer tokens. Plus you have RMT sites that sells xfer tokens cheaper. So the cash shop would be taking a double hit below the belt if shields were cheaply priced.
     
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    $15 was an idea as most things go for that amount, soooo, instead of debating valuse, how about we see if such a thing is viable for sale? hehe but not hundreds of $$$ :)
     
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    Sure $100 for 12 charges and you have to pick the shard before you can place it. Once location is set then it is set. You want more charges then give EA/UO $100 and buy another one.
     
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    Just shows us how low the population is...when 13/14 year vets outnumber the rest...
    sad days...
    what we got less than 60/70 posts...mmmmm...and iam guessing most folks playing uo will read and use stratics too....even if a low low 1 in 20 use startics which would be BS to be honest...

    sad sad days

    may as well keep the 100/200 13/14th year vets happy and the other 100/200 uo players waiting for then
     
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    but the transfer tokens were duped to high heaven?? there will be houses with chests ....full of em... lets kicking the dupers in the butt for once plzzzzz
     
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    How do you know they were duped dude? What facts give you the basis that people have chests and chests of them?

    As I've said before, if they were duped then I'm not seeing any evidence of that now as prices are going up and stock is running low.
     
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    oh well.. i will wait and stack the gifts for 2 more years...its just something i think everyone should be able to do...its like the best reward ever and most useable....i can wait...its just a shame for the 1/2/3 year players it may put them off for good...its like when u first started uo.... dreamed of riding a ethy horse,,,2 years seemed a mile stone away....so 12 years or more for the younger players will just kill any hopes they have....[sorry devs and other player this is a bad move...END]
     
  39. this is based on speculation. the current price of a transfer token is $20 and they typically sell in game for 18-25m (averages $1=1m). if there were so many in circulation, the prices would be much lower, but the fact that there is a fixed cost on them, will make their market price not change much.

    adding these shields simply allows players (w/ 14 years old subscription) who have had no interest in spending 18-25m or $20 to transfer to a shard for vending, event or any other purposes.

    they are not going to change this idea and they will not offer it on uogamecodes.
     
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    its fact certainly not speculation ...if u wanted 100 of these tokens u could buy a 100 form a never ending vendor or a broker or searchstore....and tomorrow the vendor or the broker or the search store will have another 100 for sale
     
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    like i said iam out of this thread.....read this and think again...last time...

    as a 12 year player.. i will wait and stack the gifts for 2 more years...its just something i think everyone should be able to do...its like the best reward ever and most useable....i can wait...its just a shame for the 1/2/3 year players it may put them off for good...its like when u first started uo.... dreamed of riding a ethy horse,,,2 years seemed a mile stone away....so 12 years or more for the younger players will just kill any hopes they have....[sorry devs and other player this is a bad move...END]

    THP losing the battle for the good
     
  42. ok, you don't have to post the same response on multiple posts on the regarding the same issue. we understand you want this item for everyone, but they do offer it for everyone, in transfer tokens. just like they offer the charger of the fallen for players who are not able to ride ethereal mounts.

    get over it. you're beating an issue into the ground before it's even released and playing some sort of victim in the process. we get it, you want the item. wait 2 years, or just move on.

    nothing you are providing is based on fact as there is no proof to how these items were obtained. just because someone might have a lot of something, it does not mean they were duped. you can spam all day that you are buying transfers for 18m, accumulate 100, and resell them at 25m per on a vendor somewhere. there is NO proof that any of these items are duped.
     
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    for a game trying to bring in new players this gift pushes them away further. No new player is going to want to play against players with advantages they'll never see. Bad enough they have to wait 4 years to have the skill cap. I put this move with the shields right on the list with WOW's panda's. LAME.
     
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    Real advantages are fighting items (weapons, armor) with modifiers such that one can outdo one's own opponent in combat. And this "inbalance", thanking to faction artifacts and imbuing has been greatly reduced in favour of new or returning players who can now catch up much faster than it was before.

    Being able to transfer for free for a limited number of players, a limited number of times, monthly, I do not think equates like having uber weapons or uber armor.
    Sure, it is an understandable privilege (given the old age of their accounts) but since transfer tokens already exist and already can be bought by anyone, I do not see why offering this limited bonus to a limited number of players would be a problem.

    Since the inception of transfer tokens (the purchaseable ones...) lots of players have been buying them and using them to buy items on some shards and resell them on other shards.
    Even considering the transfer costs many players have still made good money in between buying and selling. I do not see how Shard Shields will change any of this other than, for those Veteran players who might want to use them to buy and resell (which not necessarily will be all of the eligible 14th Year Veterans....), give to them the ability to make a little extra profit by not having to buy the token, once a month.......
     
  45. Kayne

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    Absolutely no! Jack you're a good guy and all but no way in hell.

    14th year vets deserve something like this for having their accounts open for all these years. People need to accept them the way they are and stop these constant threads about them.
     
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