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Should the Shard Transfer Shields be transferable?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Ezekiel Zane, Nov 6, 2011.

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Should the Shard Transfer Shields be account-bound or transferable?

  1. Account-bound

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  2. Transferable

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  1. Ezekiel Zane

    Ezekiel Zane Grand Inquisitor
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    Simple enough question. Should the Shard Transfer Shields be account-bound or should they be transferable. The shield only, not the token it generates.
     
  2. THP

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    its a no brainer to be fair.....they have simply got to be transferable....or the age of the reward needs to be dropped to about 3 years....someone who as paid 3-4 years subs deserves a great reward too....someone who as paid over 10 years will be gutted..i for one will be!!!! crazy....we get a bloody sheep statue....awesome thinking devs.....bloody awesome..i kinda see some kind of joke in there......
     
  3. Viper09

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    Account bound. There are not many 14 year vets so it will not be unbalanced at all. It's fine as it is.
     
  4. popps

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    I would have rather preferred to vote on a poll asking if the shard of the shield should be made changeable from one month to the other......

    I would have voted yes.

    As far as the account bound goes, I think it is fair, also not to cause too much loss in revenues to the game, that this Shard Shield high end Veteran Reward stays only eligible and usable by high end active accounts which are very few thus not creating any real change in revenues from the sale of transfer tokens and at the same time being a sound reward for players who stayed loyal to the game for this very long time.
     
  5. Salivern_Diago

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    I see no reason to change the shield in any way. Its perfect the way it is, a reward for 14 year vets.

    All the complainers are doing is insulting the 14 year vets who've stuck with the game from beta. The vets deserve something nice, the others will just have to live with it.
     
  6. popps

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    Any and all active accounts, when their active age becomes old as required to be eligible to claim the pertaining Reward, will be able to claim it just the same.

    So, it is only a matter of waiting whatever time is asked for the account to be active to claim the pertaining reward. Therefore, there is no inbalance, unfairness whatsoever, IMHO.
    All players can get there, "if" their account is maintained as active for the required time.


    Well, here I disagree. If it was possible to change the shard from one month to another, the whole Reward would not change a tiny bit, IMHO. It would still be 14th Year and account bound only, rather than being customed only to those Veteran Players who transfer often between 2 same shards, it would also become of interest to those players who might not need or want to transfer always between the same 2 shards, but might still be interested, over time, to visit one shard here, and one shard there.

    For example, if the shard was to be possible to be changed, once per month, a Veteran Player one month might want to visit Pacific, bring along the shield and the next month visit Atlantic, then over the next month to Great Lakes, and so on (this would need the shield to work off of the bank box as an account can have only 1 home on one given shard...).

    Of course, those players who wanted to transfer always to the same shard would not change it and always pick tokens for the same one shard.

    What I am trying to say, is that I see no reason whatsoever not to have this particular Reward be interesting for both the Veteran player who transfers intensively and, at the same time, also for the veteran player who might have much more scarce needs of transferring.

    This could be achieved by allowing the shard to change every month and it would not much change the way the reward works other than for this.
     
  7. Salivern_Diago

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    I can see what you are saying Popps, but you have to look at it from a business sense here also. What they are giving the vets is a limited use Xfer token. Something that would otherwise cost $20. Now each time a vet uses one of the limited tokens thats $20 taken away from the income of UO. I have no idea how many 14 year vets are left in the game and I'm not too sure if that information will ever be revealed.

    What you have to look at it here is that it is a deco item (With unique artwork according to the Dev's) that gives you something a little extra once per month. So really you have to look at it like that.. Deco with bonus. Only the Vets who would use the token would claim the shield so its 'use' is targeted at those whom Xfer, while those whom dont either can use a Deco item or not choose anything till next year.

    For me personally, I would love to have a custom house in the shape of a grand hall with these shields adorning it. then I would use the tokens to go shopping on other shards. Its something I try to do but only really happens once a year, but with these I'ld be doing it every month and it WOULD increase my gameplay.

    As for changing what shard it goes to each month... Maybe if the Dev's added something like taking it to a Herald NPC, give him X amount of gold (I'm talking about alot.. 20-30mil minimum) then he could 'alter' the shield to another shard. That would be one way of doing it, but changing the target shard daily/monthly for free.. I would be against that as it would just be a free unlimted Xfer per month.
     
  8. THP

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    how about the 12 year vets that have spent 2 thousand dollars and get offered a f*************ng sheep statue,,,,wtf is all that about...is that some kind of sick joke??????
     
  9. wanderer1origin

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    awh LOL
    in 24 months you will be there, buck up! be one with the sheep!!!!!!
    you know when 14 year vets were at 12 years we dint have that option or expatiation so saved for the 14 year rewards LOL!!!!!!!!!
    whining over free stuff for 14 years, lol!!!!!! uo at its finest!!!!!!!!!!!!
    so a few hundred players get to test new rewards face it will be remade into some similar for masses if works or a pay store model!!!!!



     
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    Someone had a bunch of polls made so he could be told he deserves a transfer shield too. Shame he didn't get the answers he wanted. lol
     
  11. Ezekiel Zane

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    Actually, I made the poll and I was the first vote for Account-bound. Shows what you know.
     
  12. Endrik

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    Sorry, but I fail to see any logical reason to have the shields account bound. If you keep them as only useable by 14th year vets, there is no reason they cannot be trade-able. They would still offer something unique to long term players, but being trade-able would make them more valuable and allow for players who wanted to to collect all of the shards. Some vets do not play much and would have no use for these while others are very active and could use more than the 2-5 they can likely still choose.

    I can see the argument for keeping these as a 14th year reward, and I have to agree, but I have yet to see one rational reason that they should not be trad-able to other 14 year vet accounts. After all, every other vet reward is trade-able except for soul-stones for obvious reasons.

    jmho
     
  13. Sevin0oo0

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    I said transferable. It's MY reward and I should be able to do what I please w/ it. I'm not that age, but just got the Non-Transparent polar bear, rode it once or twice and actually felt embarrassed, besides the fact I wouldn't be able to color it a true ethy, yet - LAME - It's up for sale now. I'd of felt cheated and screwed if it was acct bound as well. So, in the same mind, I wouldn't want Any 'gift', 'reward' to be acct bound, it may simply becomes trash at that point.
     
  14. Njjj

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    Well, the only reason that I can think of is to prevent vet from getting rich off them. This would not be fair. It's a gift for you. Use it if you want or pick something else.
     
  15. Lord Nabin

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    I voted account bond. The Concept of your old enough to have some special rewards is great and a positive for staying engaged in the overall game.
     
  16. popps

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    If that is the case, then I understand it even less.....

    I mean, as the Shard Shield has been designed, it will benefit the most those Veteran Players who have need for frequent transfers between 2 same shards.
    That is, I would imagine, the players who might have most reasons to purchase transfer tokens since they need or want to transfer often.

    On the contrary, Veteran players who only seldomly transfer, and would only consider transferring in case they had access to a free transfer token (the one generated by the Shard Shield for example...), would not be interested much in purchasing transfer tokens in the first place.

    What I am trying to say, is that "if" Shard Shields were designed with the purpose not to affect much transfer tokens' sales, well, then accomodating mainly those Veteran Players who want/need to transfer most looks to me as achieving the opposing effect since those who want/need to transfer most will now have access to "free" transfer tokens for those shards they need or want to transfer back and forth.

    The "casual" transfer, instead, which would not anyway turn to purchasing transfer tokens since would only transfer "out of curiosity" given a free opportunity, would mean not much a loss from reduced sales of transfer tokens.

    Therefore, I do not see how, allowing the change of the Shard once per month, and thus also accomodating the casual needs of the occasional transfer for a Veteran player, would hurt the sale of transfer tokens....... I mean, after all a casual transferrer could not transfer perhaps unless given a free opportunity .......

    So, I say, WHY NOT give the option to change the shard once per month and thus make happy also the Veteran player who "occasionally" might want to transfer ?

    Why give so much advantage to the intensive transfer Veteran player and not also to the casual transfer player ?

    I am convinced that allowing the change of the Shard once a month would be the right move.


    Not at all, as I see it. It would STILL allow only for 1 transfer per month and ONE only.
    Account bound too.........

    Only, that one month the player could pick a Shard to transfer, and the NEXT month pick a different shard to transfer to. But ALWAYS and ONLY once per month.
    So, no free unlimited transfers per month but always ONE per month, account bound.

    The only thing that this would do is give a chance to the "casual" transfer player to visit one Shard one month, and another Shard another month, and again yet a different shard the following month and so on, out of curiosity, without having to pick tens of Shard Shield Vet rewards to occasionally visit multiple shards. Just have a little patience and use the same one Shard Shield to go one month there, the other month somewhere else and so on.

    As I said, just ONCE per month, no unlimited transfers at all..........
     
  17. Gheed

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    I voted transferable. It really doesnt make much of a difference to me. In the end it boiled down to choice. It is a fine reward and a vet should be able to use it for themselves or sell it for a nice bit of gold. It would clearly be a top seller. They'd probably go for well over 100mil per or be used as currency in expensive trades. I'd like to see the deed transferable but once it is used it becomes account bound.


    I keep crossing my fingers every year for the ability to own multiple houses per acount as a vet reward. This to me is sort of a lead into that.
     
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    Nope.

    I plan on claiming like 9 or 10 and then start offering shuttle services to various shards.
     
  19. Ezekiel Zane

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  20. An excellent account bound item. There are things that should be account bound that allow a vet to create a pretty cool pad.
     
  21. Widow Maker

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    Account bound. I have been playing and PAYING much longer than those who have an account age less than mine.

    I have earned it, they have not. Simple. :whip:
     
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    Account bound. Look I payed for 14 years of UO and well......quite frankly this is a great idea for the person who is settled in uo and just wants to move a character or 2. Now as for selecting shards on the shield ... Yes I would like to be able to change that if possible. But it wont kill me if it dont. If I am needing to go back its no biggie to grab a transfer and go... hey it will be a great way to ship off things I need and not loose a char to that shard I need. Just refriending will be hastle but thats trivial atm.
     
  23. Fridgster

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    Just a thought, how about 2 shield rewards. 1 for 10th year and up that is as proposed now and 1 14th year that allows you to change the token month to month
     
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    Account Bound.

    Maybe they should allow you as a 10 year vet to pay the price of the other 4 years sub fees to get one early?
    So for approx $600 you can also have one if it bothers you that much.

    I would be okay with that.
     
  25. Poo

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    they are called Veteran Rewards for a reason.

    if they wanted them to be for everyone of any age, then they would call them Freebies.

    put in the time, get the cooler rewards.

    gives ya something to strive for.
     
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    account bound

    But sell vet year upgrade pack at $100 per year upgrade.
    Also 15% discount when upgrading 4+ years at a time
    (Since it is for vet year, $$ generated need to go to UO only!)


    Hey now you have the option to get to 14 year vet but are you willing?

    :stir:
     
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    Account bound. If it is transferable I can see it being duped and some super shard hopper having 100 in a house and hopping like mad and reducing our economy to an even lower level. As it is now, they have to buy their tokens and at least they in some fashion support UO with all the money they make off of off site selling.

    Though what would be nice is to choose any shard from a list (yeah yeah not Siege of Mugen) when you collect your token. Not just the same shard over and over. That way you can visit ever shard in time. And of course having that token continue to be account bound too.
     
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    I'd like them to be tradable. They'll be worth a nice amount of gold that way.
     
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    They shouldn't have even added these imo.
     
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    They need to be account bound, otherwise the sale of transfertokens will plummet. Since the UOstore is such a major contributor in making UO "wildly successfull", and the transfer token one of the main sellers, I would be very careful not to mess with that if one want UO to survive.
     
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    /this
     
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    never mind transferable...make em buyable/rechargeable with gate scrolls...the same u did when u released the old 11th year house teleporter deeds...they were awesome till the new buyable /rechargeable version came out..

    may as well gom the same way ..make em ..$9.99-19.99$ and rechargable wit 1000 gate scrolls per month....

    great ideas yes yes yes....do it DEVS!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    and the fact the old transfer token were known to be highly duped in very large numbers would serve the purpose for making these shields buyable and kicking the cheating scum in the balls....let the true players win for once....plz...:thumbup1:
     
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    109 post lol......and the 13/14th year vets outnumber the rest of the uo population....jeeze i didnt think the number of players were that low...

    oh well.. i will wait and stack the gifts for 2 more years...its just something i think everyone should be able to do...its like the best reward ever and most useable....i can wait...its just a shame for the 1/2/3 year players it may put them off for good...its like when u first started uo.... dreamed of riding a ethy horse,,,2 years seemed a mile stone away....so 12 years or more for the younger players will just kill any hopes they have....[sorry devs and other player this is a bad move...END]
     
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