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Should The well known Duped Event Rares be kept in this forum? [SURVEY] Current Results: No:40(71%)

Discussion in 'UO Rares Collector' started by Guest, Apr 8, 2008.

  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    The title pretty much says it all, and its past time that we see how the players who comprise this forum feel about this issue.

    Should these event rares and other rare items which are widely considered to have been duped significantly remain in the Rares Forum?

    Please only reply with a yes or no answer, responses with extra information will be ignored. Responses can be made in this thread, or via pm/icq for privacy.


    Yes: 16
    No: 40


    If you don't support duping, show it!

    Copy this URL into your avatar bar and help us stop duping!

    http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z171/kgacomo/duper.jpg
     
  2. Guest

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    If every suspected duped rare was prohibited from this forum, then the only thing left to discuss would be Holiday items given out after 2000. It should be noted if something has been duped a lot, but there is no reason to declassify them as rare.

    If a unique item is duped once, there is still only 2 of them.
     
  3. Guest

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    If every suspected duped rare was prohibited from this forum, then the only thing left to discuss would be Holiday items given out after 2000. It should be noted if something has been duped a lot, but there is no reason to declassify them as rare.

    If a unique item is duped once, there is still only 2 of them.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Keep in mind there also are duped items that haven't circulated yet people don't know about. Also duped items still command hundreds of millions-billions of gold because they still truly are rare.

    Rare because the people whom likely do have many stockpiled on their accounts aren't going to let them go for mere peanuts.
     
  4. Treyster18

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    No


    BUT, only to the items in the sticky
     
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  6. Ultima83

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    Im still kinda curious why everyone cares so much... Simple do not buy them.. Do not trade in them...

    Its made obvious which items have had distrustful history in there origins, although you all simply leave out the hundreds of "duped" serverbirth rares of which most of you are scared to realize and wont post..

    Pretty safe to say that there will be almost no trading of any original serverbirth rares if you no longer trade in "duped" items..

    Id say yes if it were to items like Vine cord sandals or LT. Guard sashes cause those are blatent.. But items like talkeesh robes and necro robes and all those other ones that hundreds of people trade in a week seems kinda silly

    And as much as alyssa does not like me, I completely agree that most of you still have no idea what the hell is in storage from old dupers and that most of them havent even given out half of there stocks to any people or even certain items that have yet to be made known..
     
  7. Guest

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    I've asked for this to be a no discussion thread, if you feel that the items should not be allowed then simply say "no", if you feel there is any reason or subtlety that should permit the items to be allowed then vote "yes".

    providing reasoning and having discussions can skew the results of a survey and I'm attempting to eliminate any confounding factors I possibly can which is difficult enough without added factors.

    p.s. this isn't aimed solely at you, you simply happened to be the easist poster to respond to as yours was at the bottom of the thread.
     
  8. simonovsk

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    <blockquote><hr>

    Should these event rares and other rare items which are widely considered to have been duped significantly remain in the Rares Forum?

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    No
     
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  10. Guest

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    No but which museum owner can honestly say there isnt a chance of them owning one? unlike my europa colleague last night (bwt) i cannot put hand on heart and say i dont have one though i dont think i do. i was one of the first to point out vine cords and got so much hassle at the time with flames and nasty pm's but a bit like the brit guard sash dupes i look at the wearers now and just think 'muppet'
     
  11. Guest

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    What if I was at the event and obtained the item myself?
     
  12. double no. one is a real no. the other is duped.
     
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  14. Guest

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    flutter I'm not quite sure what the point of your question is. I'm not asking about your items, I'm asking if you feel that duped items which are widely accepted as having been duped in significant quantities should be considered rare any longer.
     
  15. Guest

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    No they bloody should not!
     
  16. Guest

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    flutter I'm not quite sure what the point of your question is. I'm not asking about your items, I'm asking if you feel that duped items which are widely accepted as having been duped in significant quantities should be considered rare any longer.

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    The point of my question is that just because an item "has been duped" (and some of the items on that list are questionable even today) doesn't mean that the item the person has for sale or trade is a dupe.
    And how far are you willing to take this? Are two story talking statues going to be illegal to discuss on this forum? Gold was duped more than anything else, guess it will have to be non-duped item traded for non-duped item only.
     
  17. Guest

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    The point of my question is that just because an item "has been duped" (and some of the items on that list are questionable even today) doesn't mean that the item the person has for sale or trade is a dupe.
    And how far are you willing to take this? Are two story talking statues going to be illegal to discuss on this forum? Gold was duped more than anything else, guess it will have to be non-duped item traded for non-duped item only.

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    Yet again I'm not asking about your item, I'm asking about the item in general. In addition you can't prove that your item is an original or is a dupe, so if you consider this realistically it doesn't matter. In addition the overall majority of the items on the list aren't questionably duped, they are 100% without a doubt duped.

    The survey is just that a survey, I'm not a moderator, nor am I affiliated with stratics in any way other than as a member so how far I am willing to go or not doesn't matter as I can't make any decisions regarding the forum, and there is nothing wrong with asking what participants opinions are.

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    ...responses with extra information will be ignored.

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    Liar. :p
     
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    What if I was at the event and obtained the item myself?

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    That only matters if you can prove you obtained the item of question. Otherwise, its likely other people who recieved the same reward EM item have passed on the items to a duper thus putting you into the duped EM item catagory.

    Specifically, this is why a seperated forum for duped rares would cause more contraversy. How would you feel if you knew the item you had was unduped, yet 100s of other players argued it was? (your specific version of the item).
     
  20. Guest

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    <blockquote><hr>

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    The point of my question is that just because an item "has been duped" (and some of the items on that list are questionable even today) doesn't mean that the item the person has for sale or trade is a dupe.
    And how far are you willing to take this? Are two story talking statues going to be illegal to discuss on this forum? Gold was duped more than anything else, guess it will have to be non-duped item traded for non-duped item only.

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    Yet again I'm not asking about your item, I'm asking about the item in general.

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    And I am speaking in general terms "me" or "my" could refer to anyone on the forums. Same with "you" and "your".
    And since "you" seem to want to talk on "Realistic" terms... pretty much everything has been duped. Even penny anty stuff that "you" perhaps wouldn't be interested in purchasing.
    For someone who is just so very sick of the whole dupe conversations that other people start you sure participate in the coversations a whole lot.
     
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  22. Guest

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    Flutter, and everyone else I've already broken my own rule, so I'm just as guilty but please take the discussion else where.
     
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  26. Guest

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    No Burn them all!!!!
     
  27. Guest

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    No Burn them all!!!!
     
  28. DevilsOwn

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    <font color="purple"> yes

    and feel free to ignore this extra information, but I will have my say

    there is only, really, one item I can point to in my collection and have any confidence in saying no, that's not a duplicate of something.... however, there is no "rare" from either past events or server births that is now attainable ingame during normal play, so for me, that makes them rare, no matter the number... no matter how hard I wish it, the knitting will stay stuck to the tailor's table and that plough is forever anchored in the farmer's yard, so my only recourse is the rares traders and their merchandise

    in reading this over I realized that some of the people I have bought from in the past may feel slighted by the 'one item' remark.. it is truly not meant that way.. I do not knowingly deal with duped items or people who do the deed, it's simply that most of my treasures have likely been duped somewhere, sometime... and yes, I will still proudly display them as they were bought and sold in good faith </font>
     
  29. Guest

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    No

    Selina
     
  30. Piotr

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