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Siege Perilous: 2nd Character Slot.

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Weakling, Dec 31, 2008.

  1. Weakling

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    I think that we should have a second character slot on Siege Perilous.
     
  2. weins201

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    First Vote NO

    bad idea you want options use soul stones
     
  3. Petra Fyde

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    So do a lot of us, but when we had a poll about it the result was only around 2:1 in favour. I've a feeling a result of 9:1 was more what was needed to achieve it.

    My opinion was that the arguments against had more holes in than Swiss cheese, but I'm not the one making the decisions :(, so sorry, but 1 slot is all we get for the foreseeable future.
     
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  5. Mr Man

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    /Vote NO
     
  6. Duskofdead

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    I'd say, be careful what you wish for.

    I'm not a SP player and thus I don't have an agenda to see Siege changed this way or that way.

    But, I realize SP is a special shard with a special ruleset, and you all know and like the unique shard that has sprung up around that.

    Going by pure majority will , I think, would ultimately make SP identical to every other shard. Trammel was popular will. Multiple character slots were popular will. Buffs and then nerfs to the same skills over time were all popular will.

    I think very, very few of the changes popularly approved in the beginning, were ultimately good for the game overall in the long run.
     
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    Ill say what I said last time: I dont think its a good idea, but its not like a terrible idea. The main reason I would be against it is that people could make mules, but I dont think that there would even be that many of those. I think most people who arent crafting already just dont want to do it.
     
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    why only 2? LOL
     
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    the deal with sp is its a community shard.. they want only one type of char per account.. this means you dont have a mule, a crafter, a warrior and a pvp char..


    what i would like to see is a separate housing system.. id play sp a lot more if i had a house there. :(
     
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    No thanks!
     
  15. Sweeney

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    The person that voted for beating a dead mule was correct. 2 slots on Siege would only welcome farmers, and goes against the idea of Siege.. community. We need vendors with GM armor, and all the ammunition. 2 slots on Siege might bring a few players, but it will go against the entire idea of Siege.
     
  16. Seperate housing would be better than a 2nd character slot.

    Want a second character on Siege?

    Open a second account .........
     
  17. John Connelly

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    If they do I will close my crafter account and make a crafter in the second slot. I imagine many would do something similar. Seems like bad business to me.
     
  18. Petra Fyde

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    This idea has been explored, voted on and rejected. It's not going to happen. Two thirds is not enough of a majority in favour. I would hazard a guess that the figure that would be enough is around 95%.
     
  19. J0KING

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    I would really have to say no to the second character slot on Siege...

    However... since there has been a decline in players and an increase on open land they should allow players at least two houses per account. By opening up house placing a little it will/may allow for other players to start playing other shards more...

    Happy New Year!!! Have Fun!!!
     
  20. FrejaSP

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    Please YES!!

    To many quit because they can only have one char on Siege. I can affort to pay for my 5 chars/accounts. I started with 2 accounts on Siege, not sure I still would had been here if I only could have one char.

    As Siege is only shard for me, the alternative would be no UO for me if I could not affort more than one account.

    And no, it won't cost EA money as I would not give up any of my houses, but I would still love to have 2 chars on an account.
     
  21. FrejaSP

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    How can you call 65,18% voting yes for a no? Remember the votes who ask for more than 2 chars count as a yes too.

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    View Poll Results: How many character slots per account do you feel is appropriate to Siege Perilous?  
    One     55 		34.81% 
    Two     93 		58.86% 
    Three    5 		3.16% 
    Four    0 		0% 
    Five    1 		0.63% 
    Six     1 		0.63% 
    Seven     3 		1.90% 
    Voters: 158. This poll is closed
    
     
  22. Petra Fyde

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    I didn't, I want a 2nd slot. I want another crafter so that I can cover all the crafting skills and add imbuing without having to play musical chairs with soulstones.

    However the devs (or whoever made the decision at EA) didn't feel that the numbers in favour were high enough. As I said, I think they want something like 95% in favour. That's not going to happen.

    Too many people believe they know what will happen and it will be bad. I wish I had their crystal ball to be so certain of what every player on Siege would do with an extra slot. 'Everyone would have a crafter' they claim. Totally ignoring that some people hate crafting, and you can't fit all the skills you need on one crafter. I can't fit them all on 2 crafters!!
     
  23. FrejaSP

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    OK, I never heard EA saying they wanted around 95%. I feel it unfair if it's true. Why should a small % of nay sayers get their will, do not make sende to me.

    Like you, I believe a PvP'er will make a second PvP'er with a different template, a PvM'er will make a PvM'er more and the crafters want more crafters.

    Sure some will like me have both a PvP'er and crafters but Tina Tink ís not a mule, she is a char I love to play, just like Freja, Red Rose, Rosalia and Crazy Elf.

    I had seen many players give up Siege and many of them is players with only one account.

    Soulstones are nice but I rather login a second char than switch skills all the time.

    I really hope Devs will consider this, I'm tired of playing on an emty shard, I want the shard to be more fun and more playable, not only for a few hardcore Siege players like me.

    Siege should not only be for wealthy people, it should also be for people who only can affort one account or maybe even share an account.
     
  24. Shh!

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    No.

    If you want more players, look at a housing solution. I don't think an extra slot will bring hordes of new players to Siege. Housing might.
     
  25. BartofCats

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    Sorry, I would have to agree with the OP... and in regards to that poll... 158 people do not speak for all of UO.

    Put in an In-Game poll, account vote one only, and that will give you the true response of how many people want to have 1 or more chars on seige.

    I know I would vote for 2 or more chars.
     
  26. I'd have already made a char on Siege if they had separate housing from production shards.
     
  27. FrejaSP

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    We tryed that already, was no success. We have more than enough ghost houses already.

    More room in bank boxes, apartment houses (rented), rented rooms in towns, all better alternatives than a second house.
     
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    I do not remember that. I've been around, mostly on prodo shards, nearly since UO's inception. I'd have been to Siege a LOT sooner had there been an option for some housing.

    As for the "better alternatives", are you kidding? Siege is a ghost shard. There is PLENTY of room for housing now. Open up the housing and you'll see the shard fill up. If there's really a concern about "ghost housing" then code it for all houses to go through decay, like the old days. You don't open the front door every 14 days, it drops.
     
  30. Shh!

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    A lot of people would have. People are afraid to make the leap without their safety net. Put that net there (housing) and people will give it a try.
     
  31. My main reason for wanting a house there is that I'd only want to make a crafter, and I wouldn't want to work a Smith/Tailor/Whatever out of a bank box. There's just too many items involved, especially once you start getting into filling Bods and storing shovels, prospecting tools, and Garg picks, along with all of the raw materials. Not to mention having nowhere to sell your goods once you hit GM and higher. A house is pretty much a must have for me as far as I'm concerned, and I'm not willing to open another account just for a single character on Siege. If I opened another account it would be to have a house next to the one I have now, or possibly on another shard where I'd have a presence outside of trader characters.
     
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