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(Question) Siege Transfers

Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by Kael, Jan 14, 2011.

  1. Kael

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    Lately I have found myself playing on another shard during very very slow periods on Siege
    Like quite a few people I enjoy Siege and have made it my home for a few years now
    Transfers to Siege obviously make no sense due to dupes and such but would a transfer from Siege to another shard be an issue?? I wouldn't mind having my main char and home here on Siege but also xffering some soulstones on a secondary account to another shard as an alternative when no one is on (also allow me to rework some crafter skills here to replace them)

    Anyone see an issue with this??
     
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    I dont, start another account, pass stones, xfer stones, give to original account on new shard.
     
  3. Sprago

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    i see a problem with this your gonna have a bunch of characters come here to work skillls then transfer off im sorry but skills are easier to raise here ROT is awesome especially since they removed the daily caps

    i see alot of imbuers just come here to train then transfer out
     
  4. Bruin

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    lol

    hell, at least there'd be people here! You could have like 20 afk imbuers training in Ter Mur. It'd be heyday for people who like to pk with purple potions!
     
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    Yes skills are easier here, for some. But I think some people might come, and might stay, if they like it.
     
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    i hope people do stay but i dont see it siege is to hard for some poeple they cant handle the fact that nothing is theres everything is losable hell half of siege has a hard time with losing things


    insurance ruined what was once a fun game everyone expects the easy way out
     
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    The many times Tigertyr tried to do that to me in Luna, but he never succeeded muhahaha.
     
  8. Kael

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    I thought the same thing at first. Perhaps guilds will come here to farm scrolls and such. Then I realized who cares...if they come here to farm people would dbe playing and fighting..buying an selling...so again a win for siege. The more that play Siege then the better Siege is :)
     
  9. Bruin

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    You sure? If you want I can clone Diablo like 50 times and triple the playerbase? :)
     
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    that would def help it !
     
  11. Kael

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    It would help it :fight:

    Where as 50 Diablo's wouldn't be the most desirable players to join Siege...it would definately help keep some of the players that left the game, left the shard or just stopped playing because there was no one on
     
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    I'm for it. If it doesn't bring players to the shard, at least its a lifeboat off for anyone that wants it.
     
  13. Black magick

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    50 Diablos would be busy killing/screwing each other over. I see nothing wrong with this idea.
     
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    I have no objections to a transfer OFF either. If esp. they do not plan to do much to help the population grow here and it continues to dwindle. Xfers OFF Siege, should even be a transfer off for FREE, ie a version of customer assistance assisting us, for all the yrs. of no assistance for Siege shard and it's customers. It is the least they could do for us, and they should do it for free, for ignoring Siege's needs, to it's death.

    Items like claimed vet rewards, 12 yr. house teleporter tiles are a prime example, soulstones of built up skills etc. on chr or chrs. here per acct. could be used on that same acct. on another shard, IF they let us tranfer them elsewhere, off of Siege.

    I have only 2 of 4 High Seas booster accts. I can not make everything and do everything in HS THERE, if my skills for these features, are on chrs. HERE.

    I been a part of the community of Chesapeake since 98, right before the Lost Lands were created, yet I came HERE in 2004 and been here, way more than over there.
    I belong and have belonged to a large alliance there, going back yrs of UO time, I feel more like a *misfit* there than I figured.

    I do appreciate seeing a lot more people 'over there' [per day], than running into sometimes no one online here per day, when I am on.

    That said, I cringe to go thru LUNA there seeing price$ of everything, seeing folks shout 'POF 17mill' in chat and that is some NORM. The economys are so borked on some other shards, it is not even funny.

    I would feel like some in game 'crimminal', to over charge/over price, 12 zillion gp for simple whatevers, thus I can not price stuff like THEY so easily can and do, do $$$$$$$$$ !

    I have no clue how true new players not worth zillions of gp., even survive on other shards, with them starting out so broke.

    Not sure transferring OFF would really do someone like me much good in reality, other than maybe transferring skills back, or parrot birdies or vet rewards.

    'SELLIN CANNONS, heavy pwd charges zillion gp,..sellin small wooden tables 5k per ahem, yeh !!' :(

    AND I WAS STILL [THE ONLY ONE UNINSURED by choice] when them pks come a callin at an event last night full of people in felucca.

    I was amused by the myriads of 'animated weps.' flyin into a lg twr. top floor even, attackin folks last night on Ches. I still do not/can not believe in being blessed and insured to the nines when fel side, seems so anti UO to me.

    Once..Siege gets in our blood, perhaps we are just doomed to DIE HERE, on our dying shard, [all alone by ourselves] ! :(
    When ya find yourself going over there for several hours, then coming back here intentionally LOOKING for Saint Dismas even going into his home here, hopin he is online when you are, just so he can kill ya.....maybe you are DOOMED, to remain here all alone :( ?
     
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    PS. Nice house design btw sir...I entered it decorating it, with OSU colored bandages yesterday :) but you were NOT HOME, :( no one was in Bartertown !
     
  16. Shh!

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    Ewww! And thank you, not quite done decorating yet but it's getting there :)

    Dismas is under an alacrity scroll at the moment so I am relegated to playing my pvm tamer. Do not fear, I will be back in a day or two and will come looking for you :twak:

    And for the record, I've never been against transfers to/from Siege. I just think they need to be character ONLY, no gear, gold, etc. I'll be here to turn the lights off because this is my last stand with UO but if others want out, let em go sans stuff.
     
  17. Sunchicken

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    Would never happen i doubt if there are 50 dread mares on the shard.
     
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    A) they have already said its impossible to transfer players to and from siege.

    B) wouldnt bring people to the shatd. What are they going to do. Train up a character then transfer him off? only to have to train another character up? From a merchant point of view its a waste of time.
     
  19. Hi guys here are my thoughts and I have emailed similar thoughts to the devs..at least I think I have the right email to send suggestions to.

    Insure it...


    I know here come the flames...

    If you want a player base then you have to allow players to enjoy what a lot of uo is about....items..

    Items are great and they're exciting to get...and they take time to obtain/make/farm....

    I came back to uo roughly 6-7 months ago...Siege was the only home I knew..

    Sadly its a ghost town and it is because this game has changed dramatically over the years. Having said that..due to extreme changes in game mechanics (items) siege was given very little attention, if any at all, on how it would be impacted due to its unique rule set..

    This is your result...players have either long quit, gone to a player run server or moved to a prodo server where they actually feel like they are playing an MMORPG again. A good one I might add.

    The last couple months or so I have been on Atlantic...I bit the bullet and started new characters. Not because siege is too hard core for me...I laugh at that this is a game after all..

    I left because I got tired of being on for 2-3 hours and not seeing a soul...daily

    If you insured this shard it would explode..

    People would flock here from all the dieing shards and many would come from the populated ones....because it still would intrigue them in terms of something new and still challenging. Without the harsh fallout or loss that basically shuts out 60% of the game due to risk element.

    This would still be a veteran server still in many aspects of the game...

    First in for most, there is no trammell facet here...you are fair game anywhere outside the gaurd zones. Luna, makoto, the abyss...everywhere....this is very unique to the prodo servers and a huge challenge.

    You can only have one character slot per account so you are forced to invest heavily in soul stones here to be self sufficient or you are at the mercy of the population and those that have the skills you seek to have things made or done.

    The prices here are still 5 times the amount you will find on any prodo server npc.

    If you want to argue the hard core route..that's fine..but you might as well be playing a single player game...and this is an mmorpg and those require a player base..in which siege has none.

    If you want to cry gold dupers/brokers well that's in every game imaginable if corporate gaming could put a stop to it they would have.

    You are the ULTIMATE FORGOTTEN SHARD of uo...I think my suggestion gives you the most hope...but that's just me.

    I feel sorry for those of you who have been loyal through the years, I feel its an injustice to you the way the devs have neglected this shard and they have...having played on a prodo server for only a couple months I can say that with confidence.

    Maybe they will read this and put it into consideration or take action which would be better...siege has a lot of potential with that change alone.

    Until then you will find me on Atlantic where there is something to do literally all the time. Imagine actually seeing players in an mmorpg...who woulda figured that? Good Luck Siege.
     
  20. Mook Chessy

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    I wanted to make a post but its all been said so many times...

    Woot!
     
  21. Kael

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    A) They said you couldn't transfer to Siege...not off

    B) I assume they could use another account to just transfer a new char and then pass the goods over to the right account?? Slower shards are constantly being farmed...hell even my old pvm guild on Chessy did it on Oceania. I can almost guarentee you the slower shards have players just farming away in peace..kinda like those of us who spawn here on Siege
     
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    Regardless of what people want or agree on, we all know it'll take a miracle for the people in charge to actually do something.

    "We'll look at it at the end of the year, once we have cleared the current dev cycles...."

    Siege Perilous is like Duke Nukem Forever on the PC. Delayed... pushed back.... delayed.... cancelled... etc etc. And that game was announced in 1997 lol
     
  23. Shh!

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    :thumbdown: I played on Cats for 13 years. Outside of Yew moongate, Fel was DESERTED so your argument that people would flock here to play in Fel doesn't hold water. Have fun in Trammel :next:
     
  24. Sunchicken

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    I dont think it would be to play in fel as much as it would be to play without tram
     
  25. Kael

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    QFT...plus it would also be the allure of better chance to spawn/peerless without a raid and the option of prime UO housing. Not too many english speaking shards have multiple keep spots open for placement :)
     
  26. Shh!

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    Still don't buy it. People aren't clamoring to run to Fel now on prodo shards. Removing Trammel would just make 90% of that shard's population xfer to another Trammie shard.
     

  27. Have fun playing by yourself. I PVP every night non stop..on a prodo server.

    This is a dead game...there are maybe a couple servers at best with an active population...Siege is not one of them..Nor is Catskills...

    You mention moongate fighting...well that is in felucca...where else would they fight? Luna? Wait...oh thats right YOU CANT FIGHT IN LUNA on a prodo, its in trammel.....go figure...

    Ill take fights at a moongate over no fights at all...especially if its non stop...

    Try doing fel champ spawns...think you're not gunna get raided on Atlantic? Im sorry but you would see a huge change in your population....

    Any area in this game that held the chance of rendering useful resources (the abyss) or coveted items would be guarded and watched by enemies or pkers here...

    But like I said enjoy playing a MMORPG by yourself...
     
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    bro your a joke, there is people on siege you quit because we were keeping ur gear, if your crew of ****y pvpers come back, and the tnt house hiders come back, and if would jsv , or evo, there would be pvp, but they quit cause people werent playing at the same time or a lot , so u just need to wait till they want to come back
     
  29. Sorry kid they're all playing Atlantic...I see siege pvpers there that I knew from over a DECADE ago...to name one...Calamity, who I ran into before leaving for my trip to New England..There are quite a few more old school siege players there.

    I live in the desert...I see tumble weeds all the time...Id rather not see them in a game..k? thx.
     
  30. Sunchicken

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    This is part of the problem. The fact that the items are so time consuming in replacing that people dont want to play here because of the frustration of loosing them. The game has evolved and it is not possible to compete without them. The time required to acuire these items are in itselve the problem.

    Either the game needs to be backed up to a time where gm made items were about the equivelant to mid level magic items. OR The items and resources used to make magic items needs to be able to be obtained faster. This isnt about hard/easy as much as it is about time consumption.
    The only other possible way to get a population increase would be to offer a type of insurance say 3or4 siege blesses as to one. This inturn will cause a rukus with some of the older siege players.

    I wouldnt have a problem with adding more siege blesses because i depend heavily on items for my playstyle. I dont think it would kill what makes siege siege because the lack of trammel in its self. Yet i could see how this would benifit the more agressive playstyle as to the passive.
    And as i have always said BONDED PETS SHOULD REQUIRE A SIEGE BLESS!!!



    Side note. Id be carfull about calling people "jokes" you do lean heavily on crutches.
     
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    i still rock you myst mage without my pet and you know it.. dont need a pet to beat you , ur not good at all, wake up im 10x better than you :next:
     
  32. Sunchicken

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    Let them fix the delay bugs and you couldnt kill the dirt underneath my fingernails. You do ok with the tamer. You did ok with a myst as long as you had ma/ nb spam, but even then you had to run around all day. You have never played without a crutch so dont even act like you dont know what im talking about

    You have NEVER been on my level. You sir are all run. I can think of 1 time in as many times as we have fought that it didnt have you running 100+ screens around god knows where. I relieze im not that great. Im pretty good at duels. Im less than average at field yet i have to chase you around anytime you dont have a dread mare so whats that say about you?

    Righty and I demolishes you super and tru. Granted super was there premature, but me and righty couldnt cross heal.

    This is why we need more pvpers transfered in. Players like this wouldnt get all cock strong thinking they are more than they are.
     
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    I don't see a problem with this. I would support it.
     
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    If you so leet without a pet then riddle me this...why have you used one in pvp for 2 years?

    We (tnt) logged a few nights ago, you (your DM) Super and Dam all tele on the wall...


    Can you name the last time you killed a person without a wall/field or dismont all kill???

    I ran my tamer for a few weeks and killed your DM over and over, that was one of the times you quit playing Siege.

    Keep looting all the idocs on Siege and let your RL pass you by...3 more years you will have 200 million on siege and be working at Mcdonalds IRL...is that really a win??

    Pwned your entire life!!!
     
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    The easy solution to this is to put an age requirement on the toon, same as for holiday rewards ( must be 30 days old to receive ). Maybe make the requirement be 1 year to transfer off.
     
  36. Shh!

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    And like I've said before, I'll turn the lights off on Siege before I'm ever a Trammie again. Enjoy playing UO in "God mode".
     
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    sunchiken, ive killed u in front of ur entire guild one v one myst mage still

    i would never run from u any temp but pure mage,

    and LOL virgil the worst pvper talking? i rocked u on myst mage , dexxer, tamer you name it, i play a tamer because i like the fact that ive got a pet with me thats it, there nobody to pvp why wouldnt i run tamer , i do spawn with my guild all the time, well that is it, i play a necro tamer mage, which suck in pvp atm, so yea
     
  38. I am enjoying it thoroughly, thank you for your concern. Ironic that the only person putting up an objection is a thief...enjoy playing by yourself.
     
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    I need to ask you a question...

    What do you mean by GOD mode?

    95% of the pvpers on Siege run the exact same gear as prodo...

    Same gear, PS's...im lost on GOD mode?

    I like the time limit thing...any char made over 12 months ago is free to x shard!
     
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    LOL is all I can say...cya later tamer boy!
     
  41. Shh!

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    Go back to my original post in this thread, I do not object to transfers. What I object to is the Trammelification of Siege. There are a billion shards for you carebears to play on. Pick one. Buy your billion gold suits, bless/insure them all up, act like it matters when you die, rinse, repeat. You enjoy that, I do not, to each their own but keep it on your shard.
     
  42. Shh!

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    God mode is not risking anything when you die. You remember when Doom (the PC game, not the dungeon) came out? I might be showing my age but I do. It was great and I had a blast playing it until I discovered the cheats and God Mode. Now, no one forced me to play in God Mode but I did anyway. I quickly lost all interest in the game because there was no risk. I couldn't die.

    This is exactly how I feel about Trammel. What the **** difference does death mean? There are no consequences. It's completely inane to me. It's like playing Doom in God Mode. Pointless. Mind-numbing. Boring. :wall: I'd rather take my chances that people will wake up and come to Siege and go down with the ship than to have the frontal lobotomy that is Trammel/insurance.
     
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    put the very best way and i totally agree. I came to seige on day 1 and have never played another shard - regardless.

    course I am not a pvper and the low people count on seige makes it hard for pvp :(
    *hates God Mode*
     
  44. Those 13 years you played on a prodo us VETS played Siege..you showed up what? a few months ago?

    Nothing I said has to do with trammel..I do not refer to facets...I refer to items...and the time it takes to acquire them whether it be through construction or drop rates.

    What is your "risk" here? Some newbiefied (BLESSED) clothing? You're a real risk taker. Im sure you feel the FULL CONSEQUENCE OF DEATH Mr. Hard Core Siege Perilous (as of a couple months ago at that is at least).

    When you pay peoples subscription fees then your comments on where they should play will matter...k? Thx.
     
  45. Sunchicken

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    One time youve killed me without running. So why dont we make a wager say one mill.

    You Vs Me Wrong Roof. You bring your mystic or necro ill play a straight mage. My conditions. No Pets. No mounts. 10 Ea Pot. 5 apples. No Summons. No Precasts (includes healstone and spell trigger). No Leaving the roofed area.

    Necro doesnt suck in pvp either fyi.

    I wont be avalible this weekend, but i imagine i can get to the game say tuesday this coming week. We can get righty or someone to hold the gold...
     
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    Calamity quit SP years ago, before SP was dead so what's your point?
     

  47. Really? Thats interesting because he wtfpwned me in yew..he actually asked me to stop attacking him but Im so pvp happy on atlantic I wouldnt give him a chance to tell me who he was...until he dirt napped me...my point is...there are old school siege players that choose to go to the shards that hold the POPULATIONS...that is why your server is dead.

    Apparently you're wrong..he still plays...Just not here...go figure. Even after almost 7 years (i was gone pwning wow) we remembered each other.
     
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    What didn't you understand about what i said?

    CALAMITY QUIT SP WAY BEFORE IT WAS DEAD!
     
  49. Shh!

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    I've been on Siege fulltime for 2 1/2 years (I only FINALLY dropped my grandfathered houses on Cats about a month ago though). I don't wear newbie blessed clothes (ok I do, but they are under my fully imbued suit with faction arties). I play a red thug thief. I also don't run off to Trammel with my tail between my legs because I'm scared to lose anything. If you can't hang, that's cool. Like I said in a previous post, it's not for me but I'm sure it suits you fine.
     

  50. SP was dead in 2004 when I left for Warcraft....all the years after that I would say maybe it dwindled here and there but nothing compared to what it had been and just losing more and more players..

    Calamity saw this also and probably bailed for a larger population AS DID OTHERS..Thats my point.

    And to the thief...sorry try again...I know who you are...you were not factions when I was there...you were just a thief looking for newbie clothes in general (go figure)..no factions...

    Play here are you like guys..but dont expect the population to grow..

    Im sorry if this comes across like a flame but...I think its pretty pathetic that none of you can see the obvious....even after YEARS of playing the same game.