Siege is suffering. I suspect the other shards are too. Many folks are moving away to other places to play UO, Yes, some go play other games. The ones searching for UO in other places concern me. Will we ever get those folks back? What would it take? I was just discussing this tonight. I remember always being able to find a trusty blacksmith at the forge. EA killed that. Now every one has a crafter. Once, it was a choice. Not so much any more. I was a role player, back in the day. Hell, I started as a role player on Siege. That is a whole 'nother story though. The keeping up with the Jones' aspect of the game is getting old. Yes, the items and loot are neat I suppose. More so on the other shards, I would guess. This game is not about the items to me. It is about the players. Friends and enemies alike. Heh, I have as many enemy ICQs as friends. That is funny. *shrugs* EA/ Mythic where are we going with this?