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Simple and fun things to introduce IN FELUCCA!

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Kiss Of Death, Apr 5, 2009.

  1. Kiss Of Death

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    your dearest 1997 pker from Europa give you some nice infos on what to introduce to felucca, before Stygian Abyss will come , it will be SIMPLE adds to fel, but very very funny:

    - Sea water champion, LOADS OF FUN, imagine fighting with boats hehe, it'll be funny. We got already all the monsters , so we don't even need to design new sea monsters, since we have many.

    - INTRODUCTION of the bounty system, when you die killed by a red, you can give ( as it was pre aos) a sum of gold as a bounty for his death. Boards with the values of the pkers will be placed by felucca banks (as it was in the past). Only change, instead of cutting the body ( since I heard was the main trouble why EA removed it, cuz it was too cruel) , we gonna double click a DEAD OR ALIVE deed and target the corpse of the pker.

    Then the player brings the deed to the banker and get the reward.

    P.s. dont begin to say , this will be fun, but easy to exploit, cuz the pker may kill themselves to get the reward, don't please. Now anyway some milions won't change anything to a real pker, a real pvper, we have billions of gold and uber items, we don't care, we would all personally BE PROUD TO BE WORTH MORE THEN OTHER PKERS .

    It would be VERY funny to have a bounty system back. facts. Easy to do, and funny.

    - DOOM in felucca!!!!! easy to do, we got already the dungeon, the monsters in trammel, put one in felucca !! BUT make new artifacts for the FELUCCA DOOM, different items mean TONS OF PPL Would go there to fight, and they will have a new landscape for massive and fun pvp.

    - ADD TO FACTION these new options: Capture the flag and conquer the headquarter and a system that will let player do bets over those. Like Minax faction bet 50 milions gold and 50 k silver they would be able to hold Minax base for 2 hours, so they get attacked by all SL - COM- TB who can bet also over that.

    Whoever captures the flag inside the HQ and clears minax base will get the reward.

    This would be something fun to add in Factions since now, sigil fights are useless and meaningless. Best thing about factions atm is point system, nice to see oranges (no guard zones apply) , war horse, faction items .

    FActions are amazing but they need very simple and small revamps.

    - WIND CITY!!! revamp this amazing and full of fashion place. I 'd create the PKER TOWN there , with a pit inside where you can bet golds, and have a menu where u can put and choose rules (like max 5 pots each, no specials etc...) , so with a dueling pit with menus inside Wind, I am sure many pkers and duellers would go there to challenge themselves.
     
  2. SirZ

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    Fine ideas!
     
  3. Sure thing. Once this is done PS's can be moved to Tram since Fel would now have everything Tram does, so no need to have scrolls there any longer. :thumbdown:
     
  4. Kiss Of Death

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    Wrong man wrong very wrong tbh

    Trammel has many different bosses that drops loots, it has even champions that drop replica, felucca would have a DOOM , a copy of the trammel one but WITH DIFFERENT ARTIFACTS.

    So if you want ornaments of the magician you need to go to trammel if you want ornament of the undeads you need to go felucca :)...just a little example
     
  5. Wrong man, very wrong tbh.

    You can get any of the Doom arties, along with copies of the Peerless items, THAT ARE EVEN BETTER THAN ANYTHING IN TRAM, from factions.

    I stand by my original statement.
     
  6. Beastmaster

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    This whole thread is wrong. There should be NOTHING special for being a red, except exile.
     
  7. I agree with this. Although some of the ideas might work, we do NOT need more Felucca only additions.
     
  8. Kiss Of Death

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    lol?

    Trammel is full.

    Felucca is empty on most of the shards. Why? because the contents are getting old, well they're already old, we pkers fought for over 10 years ( 1999- 2009) at champ spawns, always the same, FAction fights in bases lost totally the interest except for a few weeks when faction items came out.

    I remind you guys UO was felucca based. Uo was felucca.

    Anyway I am suggesting changes that wouldn't affect trammel at all. Creating pits at WIND (which is an amazing place but EMPTY ) with menus where you can set the rules you must follow will be uber for duelling and fighting 1vs1 2vs2, it'll have also a bet system , it means no more duels on WRONG ROOF or JHELOM FARM , but duels in a new pker town ( wind anyway is DESERT empty, kaput, it's a dead place atm) with uber pits to fight in.

    WOULD IT AFFECT TRAMMEL? no, you don't care about pvp.

    Also REINTRODUCING BOUNTY SYSTEM, it's funny, and every pker would be proud to be worth more then his enemy, I bet already CAlamity would love to be worth more than all the Gooses on Atlantic, or Blazing InfernO and ICecast would be happy to be worth more then anybody on Europa. It's fun, 5 reds vs 15 blues, you fight, you kill the reds, you use the DEAD OR ALIVE SCROLLS, dbl click the bodies and get your reward!!!! isn't it fun? it is, simple facts.

    WOULD IT AFFECT TRAMMEL? no , you don't care about pvp.

    Creating a Felucca champ over waters would be very funny, having pvp with boats is gonna be FUN and different, monsters , sea monsters are arleady made, EASY TO DO, fun? yes , very fun and simple. You want this on trammel? for sure they will be able to make one on trammel, I don't see anything wrong with it tbh. Isn't a champ over water fun? yes it would be very funny, facts simple facts.

    WOULD IT AFFECT TRAMMEL? no, cuz you gonna have one also on tram.

    DOOM IN FELUCCA, you don' t want felucca to have a new area with new artifacts? It' d be amazing for felucca activity.

    WOULD IT AFFECT TRAMMEL ? yes , cuz you'll have to buy off vendors (if you don't go to fell) the new arties. But hej, also feluccan players pay the ticket , feluccan players have payed the ticket since much longer then tram ones. Usually the movement of a uo player is:

    step one TRAMMEL---> for a year or 2
    step two FELUCCA ---> forever and never go to tram anymore.

    You don't want to put a doom in felucca, we can discuss it but let's put the other things, you don't put a step in fel, I can't understand why you are whining, just babies to that.

    Creating new things for FACTIONS (capture the city etc) with bets etc would be funny and entertaining, imagine COW on atlantic saying they would hold magincia HQ vs all for 5 hours...they will bet 200 mils on that and they gonna CREATE IN A FAST WAY A SMALL EVENT, from a little menu inside the faction stone, would it be DIFFICULT TO MAKE IT ???? no lol it would be FAST and funny for everybody, I already imagine 50 ppl outside from other factions waiting to kill them all

    WOULD IT AFFECT TRAMELL ??? no

    So your posts are stupid rlly, only doom in felucca could have a reason to see those posts, the facts some of you say " FELUCCA DOESNT NEED ADDICTIONS" Show all your ignorance about UO and its actual status.

    It's sad.
     
  9. Kiss Of Death

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    Btw coming in this thread and complaining about MAINLY PVP ADD ONS is very sad tbh. You don't pvp, it's sad to see ppl like these, don't put a doom in felucca, put all the rest. It will be enough GOOD REASONS for pkers and pvpers to REACTIVATE THE ACCOUNT or simply LOG BACK INTO UO AGAIN.
     

  10. What would it matter to you Connor?

    If they added Doom to Fel, no one would force you to go there. You could still do Doom in Trammel, same as always.

    Why all the hate for Fel?

    Rather than have me speculate, just tell me what negative impact adding Doom to Fel would have on you.
     
  11. Tazar

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    Yet we see dozens of threads asking for a pre-whatever shard with no changes period! Talk about boring... and contradictory...
     
  12. Fel already has enough Fel only things for a minority of the playerbase. We don't need any more. I have no hate for Fel at all, it's just not necessary to add more to it.
     
  13. all these things are fine but would do nothing to bring what fel really needs new players. untill there is a for lack of a better word a level system that only lets players with xxx skill or exp fight other players with the same or one level higher no one will come. i could have all the leet gear and fight a naked vet i would lose no question!!
    make it a 5 color system reds can fight other reds or orange orange can fight other orange reds and purple etc etc this will bring in new people the learning curve is too steep other wise i am 5 or 6 year vet i use maybe 4 macros to PVM, i would be looking for my new curse macro and dead in 10 seconds fighting a red
     
  14. Kiss Of Death

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    4 out of 5 of the things I listed are PVP based things, it's stupidity to post a msg like this.
     
  15. Kiss Of Death

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    also here you miss totally the point. Some players asked for PRE AOS shard totally pre aos, not like siege. Ie OLD PVP MECANICS. You really are missing the point totally here.
     
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    it's a stupid thing lol , I mean the amazing thing of uo is the SKILL BASED system, it has been like this since 1997, if you want something like that you have to play some x box online games.

    You can't complain about NOT BEING ABLE TO PVP, what you have to do is simple:

    - Join a pvp guild
    - Learn from GOOD PVPERS
    - DIE A LOT and learn FROM the pkers who play amazingly

    when you've done all this , you gonna pvp amazingly well. Ofc PVP isn't easy on some templates, but for example, if you would play with me, in my guild , on Europa, within 3 months I can make a noob ( who has anyway skills and items) a very good player. You just have to train yourself. It's normal.
     
  17. Surgeries

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    You are missing the most important point.

    Let me try to explain it to you.

    What is your favorite, and least favorite sport, Kiss of Death?

    Why are those your favorite, and non-favorite?

    Please let us know. I need to use this info to help you understand why your subjective viewpoint isn't shared by all who play UO.
     
  18. Surgeries

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    What negative impact would it have on you, to have Power Scrolls available in Tram, if Doom is available to all the Reds that *Sob* can't go to Tram on their own and would have to use *Gasp* a Blue Alt character to get their arties?

    You cannot have your logic that suits you ("It won't hurt you a bit to have a Doom in Fel if you play in Tram only!") and not the other way ("It won't hurt you a bit to allow PS in Tram, if you only play in Fel!")

    Simply way too subjective, and way way too self serving.

    Would you give up PS for a Doom in Fel, Morgana?

    If so, I say we do it!

    If not, you really need to take a look at your motives, and reasoning, IMO.

    By the way, I am one that does not believe anyone should ever put PS in Tram...as long as we have Doom and Fel does not.

    But once you add Doom to Fel, then all bets are off...double resources, fame, etc should all go away in Fel, then, IMO. Or, get added to Tram, better yet.
     
  19. Fox (Europa)

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    Here's another alternative way to spice up PvP: Fix all the cheats, hacks, speedhacks, scripting etc that you use and admit to.

    People don't need gimmicks to PvP they need it to be fair and as long as there are cheaters that aint gonna happen.
     
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    Oh man...if they could really do this, I would PvP again.

    Not that anyone should be scared, except me. :) j/k

    But truly, the only thing that keeps me from PvPing is the fact that I will not cheat, no matter what. The folks that want to win at all costs will cheat to win, and so, I just won't PvP.

    But I still think that PvP is the most pulse pounding part of the game. It just kills my buzz to get killed by someone that may be cheating.

    Hella Lame, IMO.

    But if they did fix the cheats, Fox, I think you are correct...Fel would likely be revitalized overnight.
     
  21. Then why did you post it?

    In case you missed it, the ONE thing I commented on was Doom, which is not a PvP based thing, but a PvM one.

    I've always been a proponent of keeping PS's in Fel, but if you want Doom in Fel, then there's no good reason why PS's couldn't be in Tram.
     
  22. PASmountaindew

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    How about this... EA gets rid of felluca all together and makes it a tram facet and makes it some people can toggle their character into PvP mode or not? Also I think before EA adds anything new to UO they should fix everything that is broken right now.
     
  23. Asmodai

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    Man, why do people who play trammel give a crap about reds?

    UO was a game based on the fel ruleset, and reds were part of it, and always have been.

    All good ideas, all things which would make fel a million times better. Give fel some love. I havent logged into UO for 2 months now, but i would if felluca had something decent to do.
     
  24. It Lives

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    For any extended time in fel for pvp I account for the fact I will most likely go red. I do so by choice.

    I also have the option to run doom on my non-red characters as do you. whats the problem?

    Doom in fell?

    Sure you can have doom in fel, there wont be a artifact drop system (no arties) since its all about the pvp right?

    :next:
     
  25. It would have no impact on me at all.

    You seem to have me confused with someone else...someone that thinks PSes should be Fel only.

    Please find and quote any line that I have ever posted to indicate that I feel this way or *gasp* STFU.


    I don't really care what they do with Powerscrolls. All of my characters have eaten all the scrolls they ever will, so it doesn't personally affect me one way or another.

    I simply object to the 'me first' attitude that many players exhibit. Just because it is something that you will personally not use does not mean it should not be added to the game.

    For example, I don't grow plants. *Yawn* But I don't mind them being in the game. I don't cook. *Yawn* But I don't mind seeing new additions in that area either.

    UO is, and always has been, about diverse playstyles. So why hamstring one particular playstyle and only cater to those that engage in one specific style of play?

    Just play the game, if you want to stay in Trammel, stay in Trammel...if you want to go to Fel, go to Fel. Why bother trying to dictate what everyone else does?
     
  26. red sky

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    I like.

    /signed
     
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    The only problem with your thesis is that not everyone in fell is red as you presume. Assuming this thread is about adding stuff to felluca and not about giving "speical" stuff to reds as you stated.:fight:
     
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    The only problem with you who oppose ideas like this is that you can't come up with a legitimate reason for why it shouldn't be added. The only reason I can think of why you don't want new additions to fell is because you are afraid of pvp. If that's the case then let's consider that most of the additions of UO are allowed in Tram. In fact, I'm quite sure SA, if it ever does come into existence will be mainly based in a tram rule set. So to be a negative nancy like you guys, let me complain that it has to be a tram rule set and I'm not allowed to take my highly trained PK there to do stuff. It's the same argument that you guys are stating except you have the choice of going to fell if you want to and then leaving, whereas PKs are confined to fell, can be attacked by anyone, ect. There are numerous disadvantages that a PK has. So why don't you guys try to explain the impact on the game instead of simply "I don't like it cuz I'm a trammelite".
     
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    Pft, faction arties. Not everyone in Fel plays factions :p

    Although I don't think we need Doom in fel. It's fine the way it is. Fel controls the Powerscroll spawns (to some extent, many places to spawn), tram controls the artifact spawn. Good balance, lol.

    Although if there was some way to implement the bounty system again...awesome!

    And Wind city does need some love, I actually forgot about that city, is it still there? lol
     
  30. Beastmaster

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    If its not about reds, then we already have the stuff in Trammel and blues can go there, so what's the point? Oh, I see, 'its for blues in Fel that just can't stand to go to Trammel.' STFU. That's even more stupid than the OP's ideas.
     
  31. MalagAste

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    No.... I don't think Fel needs more anything......

    return to the bounty system.... maybe but that's way too easily exploitable....

    As far as a doom in Fel... NO.... I agree they get something like that then give PS's to Trammel....

    There don't need to be excuses to get people to go to Fel... if people were really that interested in the PvP there would be tons of them over there right now after all the changes to the Faction system... but you don't see people flockng into Fel now do you???? Why... because they DON'T PvP.... or they are tired of all the cheaters in Fel....

    Most of those of use who don't go to Fel much quit going there for PvP because we refuse to use speed hacks and illegal 3rd party programs to compete... Now with the UBER faction junk there is an even bigger reason NOT to go to Fel...

    Until those issues are addressed I don't think anything needs added to Fel.
     
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    Amen
     
  33. red sky

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    Just stay in tram where you are safe and cuddle with your care bear friends.

    On another note, the Doom thing is interesting but repetitive. Factions could use something new that makes playing them more fun and enjoyable, instead of just joining to get the artifacts and fighting over champs. The sea champ spawn idea is awesome and needs to be implemented. I remember having ocean battles near Terra Sanctum and those are extremely fun for the brave of heart. The bounty system idea is great but maybe change the reward to something other than gold, maybe a huge karma boost or a new point system like the museum. Make the point system like faction kills so that you can't just kill a murderous PK to farm points and the more bounties a PK gets the higher the amount of points (but base it on karma levels so that if a PK murders a Glorious Lord then they will get a very high bounty whereas if they murder a blue who is a scoundrel then maybe no points or very few.)
     
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    Just stay in tram where you are safe and cuddle with your care bear friends.

    For the life of me I cannot imagine just WHAT the reason might be as to why Felucca remains depopulated with such a glowing example of a welcoming attitude.
     
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    I am so surprised that anyone posted here. it seems like a "need more people to attack 'cause we're bored" post to me
     
  36. I was just thinking what this thread needed were childish insults and inferences that people that don't like UO PvP are scared of Fel. I'm so glad I wasn't disappointed.
     
  37. Kiss Of Death

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    ok so , let's not consider DOOM in felucca.

    Let's consider the other points?

    1) champion over water, both in felucca and trammel, with powerscrolls drop + new artifacts?

    2) bounty system for pkers

    3) revamp of wind city with dueling pits (with default menus , to set up premade rules for duels, and even bets)

    4) revamp faction with new contents (capture the flag, conquer the hq...with bets too )
     
  38. I like idea number 1, but instead of what you are suggesting in 2-4, Factions should be revamped.
    1st) Allow Factions fighting every.
    2nd) Combine the Felucca/Trammel rule set into one to allow reds everywhere, but the only PvP allowed is in Factions. Sort of an expanded Chaos-Order wars.
    3) We have dueling pits already. Fix those that already exist to allow open dueling outside of Factions.

    I personally think this whole business of providing perks to "trick" non-PvPers to go to Felucca for double resources, skill scrolls and Faction arties is a mistake. Get rid of the Felucca/Trammel rules.
     
  39. MalagAste

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    I really like the sea champ idea.... but I think that should be in Tokuno and in Fel.... I'd like to see both areas have a champ that is water based... Just my thought.


    I've thought about the whole PvP everywhere solution...

    I think there should be "dueling" type areas everywhere or in certain cities where you could go and it's kind of a preset rules on how many enter and all that.... but there should always be a felucca where it's anything goes all out PvP anywhere... I don't think that should ever go away but I think as for the rest of Tram.... I say this.... reds MUST have some sort of punishment for being Murderous scum... And I think that if they were allowed into the rest of the lands they would still have to abide by the rules .... I think that others should be able to freely attack a red... they would still need to have red healers... (which means malas would super stink as there isn't a healer at all for reds there though I don't think this should change unless they put red healers in Umbra).... though if attacked the Red can defend and if you attack a Red you will go gray to all reds in the area making you a free target... for a period of time.... But I don't see this happening at all.

    But as for adding more "special" bonus's to Fel..... no....

    I definatly don't think that PvP should be limited to Factions only... I think guilds and guild wars should still exist... and I think that other things should be added ..... like maybe an area where teams could sign up for "capture" the flag style PvP events... where you can set up the "terms" of victory beforehand..... could be fun.

    Those are just my thoughs.....
     
  40. Yeah, I forgot about Guilds and think they belong there too. I just don't think the whole Felucca/Trammel thing works like it was intended and should become one, yet Felucca everywhere will not work. There is no perfect answer.
     
  41. MalagAste

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    Oh I agree it doesn't..... but then a lot of things don't work as intended..... but if there weren't so many cheats out there with the speed hacks and 3rd party programs Fel would be more fun.... as well as if there was a better balance.... but now with the faction goodies it's hard to be balanced if your not in one.
     
  42. Zyon Rockler

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    I like the capture the flag idea. For anyone who has played Battlefield they would understand that capture the flag is more fun than just PvP.

    I think instead of betting there could be a timer that drops silver into that faction. For example: if TB holds an enemy faction flag for one hour, then silver is dropped into TB's Faction. If it's held for yet another hour then more silver is dropped. Or even certain items could become available or unlocked after so many hours then it could reset the next day.
     
  43. twoflower25

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    Felucca is empty because it is ruled by speedhackers and cheaters - who just wanna get people to fel so they can play their own game with.

    Just see what happened during the Clainin event in Fel on Europa: SLs were killing their own faction members - and when finally getting to Trinsic, a couple of speedhackers just killed what was left of SL - .... those speedhackers were not even faction members (so no chance to put them into stat loss), so they had no intention to get anything for them selves or to contribute to the storyline - they just wanted to ruin the event for anybody else.

    That is what I see in Fel happening in Europa - griefing and insulting other players all the time, it is not for fun of the players - it is just for ruining any fun other players could have there.

    Please - no new content for Fel - and no - you dont need any fresh blood. Just let all the cheaters and speedhackers rotting there ... till you all die of boredom
     
  44. RichDC

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    Actually yes, there are some blues that cant stand trammy whiners.

    I rarely go to trammel on any char(even my PvMers) I will do pretty much everything in fel...reason??

    If some newb tries to come over and harrass me as im playing i can do something about it. There is alot less childish behaviour(beside the obvious smack talk, that though is part of the game) in fel, no griefing people trying to tame (well, we take action against the scripters) no, or little griefing people working skills.

    All of the idea i like, would be fun to add a new PvP "dungeon". Not really bothered about arties or what not just a new environment.

    Boat spawn...great idea, boats would need to be looked at to give some way of out manouvering people.

    Re-vamp wind...great idea, great dungeon (if there was a reason to go there)

    Faction fight thing...love it! Did my first faction defence the other day...awesome fun! Add more ill become full time factions!
     
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    nah those "SPEEDHACKERS" were 3 germans with UOKR client, ie with the new client, which is way faster , and they seemed to speed. They weren't cheating, it's simple the new client, ie game mecanics.
     
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    thanks man.

    It' ll be simple changes, but very nice. Wind for example is an amazing place, dead, kaputt, desert...they can revamp wind as I said, in a easy way.

    Ppl aren't playing in felucca cuz the things to do have been the same since 99 (ie fire dungeon-> despise-> thera-> star room-> if lucky there is a harrower....or yew gate--> faction fights)
     
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    Exactly what I mean, there are no positive posts about this except "Fell doesn't deserve anything new because we are scared to pvp or fight anyone who might PK us". And yes, I know you are trying to get me off as being the "childish insult" person but anyone can read the posts before me or the quote and see that I am not. You're probably just upset because you fit into that category that I stated. So why don't you post what exactly is wrong with improving fell instead of just your opinion that fell doesn't deserve anything new.
     
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    This is what makes Fell and UO special my friend. The players decide what happens. Not some pre-planned out "guaranteed" event. The only other event that the players decided the out come is the Magincia event but we all know no one would have saved Magincia.
     
  49. I'd be willing to bet quite a hefty sum that not one single player in UO is "scared" of Fel. It's quite hilarious that you seem to think people live in fear of the red moongate. I've spent a lot of time in Fel personally, and can honestly say not once was I ever "scared" of anything there.


    I didn't specify anyone. Must be your guilty conscience talking here. :eyes:


    Hardly....


    I didn't say there was anything wrong with improving Fel. Please show me where I did.

    What's that?

    You can't?

    Didn't think so. :dunce:

    What I said was if you're going to put Doom in Fel than PS's should be in Tram. After all, if you're going to give Fel everything Tram has to offer, then it's only fair that it be reciprocated.


    Scared of Fel. LMAO :coco:
     
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    So why don't you post what exactly is wrong with improving fell instead of just your opinion that fell doesn't deserve anything new.

    I think there is enough discussion about arguing whether or not fell and tram need improvements. I believe this thread should be about what the improvements should be in FELL. If you have a positive statement for why something shouldn't be added or changed then state it. All of these nonsense posts get the thread of topic. If you would like to create a TRAM improvement thread then go create one. (trammie "snickers behind keyboard") :fight: