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Since the faction re-vamp is off the immediate radar..

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Widow Maker, Sep 8, 2010.

  1. Widow Maker

    Widow Maker Slightly Crazed
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    How about we do these, in the meantime:

    1. *This is the most important* Enable Faction fighting on all facets. This allows for the deserters to be hunted down where they are hiding.

    2. *This is the 2nd most important* Disable "I honor your leadership" This has been asked / begged / pleaded for for a very long time. it's about time to damn well do it.

    Implementing these 2 very easy items will do a massive amount of fixing in factions.

    C'mon guys, give us these 2 and we'll be real quiet about asking for anything else for quite some time.
     
  2. Prime.

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    I really don't care about #2 to be honest, point holders have existed since factions started from what I'm aware, I'd love to see number 1 happen though...

    Also think a faction point wipe is definitely needed, I realize faction points aren't outrageous on every shard, but some shards you need a couple billion points to be rank 10.
     
  3. Lynk

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    Number 2 is kind of a mute point with all the point farming going on. No one really transfers points like that, they have an alt char in a different faction that they see-saw points with.
     
  4. Saint of Killers

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    I don't think number 2 is really a "mute" point since I can "hear" people ask about it in vent.

    I do think it's a moot point though.

    I r dum maje. I spel plage u! :p
     
  5. Merion

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    I'm against all of that!

    1. This was one of the major points that made whole guilds join factions - so the crafters and other non-fighting types could still be in the guild without having a crafter-gank-fest at luna.

    2. If you disable this, you add just another incentive for people to put their second account into a rival faction and start point farming.
     
  6. Mervyn

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    no no no no no

    I would like to faction fight in trammel
    However, pvp is not in a fit enough state to spread it's disease.

    Need to sort out spell plague and prot/cleansing winds first.

    Also, need to disable cross faction healing. What idiot enabled it i don't know. People keep abusing in group fights, by playing chars of a same faction as enemy then having one guy in the group a different faction and then the abusers will keep him healed so eventually the orange will get a kill, and no matter how many of the healers you kill, they will never go in stat and just keep ressing.

    A guild on europa were doing it last night at a harrower, nothing new though.
     
  7. GalenKnighthawke

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  8. Widow Maker

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    Wow...it seems that you really don't play factions at all or will do anything to prevent any change to the current and extremely broken status quo:

    "Current, modern point exploits have nothing to do with leadership honoring."

    Ceasing the xfer of points is never ever going to be a bad thing..period. A point wipe would truly be the absolute best action once implementing these simple changes.

    "There is no fictional reason to bring Faction fighting into Trammel, and besides, if you want Faction fighting in Trammel, war the other Faction guilds. You'll still have Silver and points and skill loss. "

    There is absolutely no chance in hell the trammel deserters will EVER accept a war invite...period. Who gives a rat's flying azz about fiction when it comes to deserters.

    "I think that both real Factioners and the hard-core PvPers who use Factions as an excuse to fight enjoy having neutral ground to trade, spy, rest, smack talk (if pathetically), and enjoy other aspects of the game."

    Good freakin' God man, show that you have at least some basic clue about the game. Other aspects are done with...get this...you'll love it....non- Faction toons, if one feels the need.

    I am sure you are a nice person and all but...wow. *blink* :gee:
     
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  10. Widow Maker

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    Ummmm......what??

    Ohhhh....you mistakenly think that only reds are in faction?

    Wrong my friend...very, very wrong...on pretty much your entire thought. Reds will never ever be gone.

    If these 2 small changes are made, and they should, you will see much of the abuse of the faction system end. A likely side result is a large increase in Faction fighting and membership the way it was meant to be, originally.
     
  11. Basically...undo all changes to factions in the last publish and flush the faction stones.

    Fresh start..ahhhh
     
  12. i suggest that faction points/rank decay very fast while away from fel. proportional to rank of course, higher ranked factioners should lose a lot more points for being away from the battlefield. lower ranks it won't matter as much.
     
  13. hen

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    As has been suggested many times before, make faction arties un-equipable in the Trammled facets.
     
  14. Widow Maker

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    Bingo Hen...but that would take a buttload of coding. These changes would be easy, fast and effective. It would also provide some excellent Faction fun
     
  15. Nastia Cross

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    Bringing faction fighting to all facets is a mistake. Factions should stay in Fel where it belongs. There are other ways to deal with people only joining factions for the arties, namely a tithe. Every time a player wearing arties leaves Felucca, a tithe should be taken from their bank based on the number of arties and rank required to wear them.

    For example:

    My blue whammy wears faction Stormgrips. When I leave my house in Fel to enter Ter Mur to kill some Stygian Dragons, the bank automatically charges me 1k gold. If I also wear Faction Mace and Shield Glasses, the bank would charge me 6k gold (1k for the rank 1 Stormgrips and 5k for the rank 10 Glasses... I'm basing this amount off of the amount we pay for them in silver). If I choose not to pay this tithe, my faction arties will fall off into my pack just like they do when a player is lacking the proper amount of points to wear them. Also, make a minimum charge per day to wear the items in all other facets for those players who don't set foot in Felucca, so that you don't have people exploiting the items by staying in Trammel. Obviously, 1k gold is nothing for most players. I'm merely using it as an example.

    As for "I honor your leadership" I don't see a problem with it. The massive amount of points is from people killing their own characters in opposing factions that give double points.
     
  16. kaio

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    Remove Faction items...or make them equal to normal none faction items. Or
    buff the none faction items.
    All thise "free" faction items...Did/does have a huge impact on the economy.

    Change pvp rules in feluca, so when u get killed u will suffer 20min stat loss...regardless of faction or not...
    Maby reduce it to 10min.

    Make is so, that u can only xheal members/allies from your'e own guild/alliance.

    Keep the faction fighting in fel.
    Change chat system so u can only hear people on the same facet as your'e self.

    Dev's get to work...we dont want any boosterpacks..
    We want.
    Healthy economy system.
    Factions worth fighting for.
    No freebie over powered items. (we got imbuing, witch works just fine)
     
  17. hen

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    Please no.