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Since when can reds be in Tram?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Yalp, Feb 24, 2011.

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  1. Yalp

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    Strange doings on Baja tonight.. 2 reds from same guild running around Tram Brit fighting. Many witnesses, called GM's of course, sat in que, sent email to Mesanna.. How do you save journal files?
     
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  3. retrorider

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    Reds can get into tram by:

    • Jumping an EM's gate

    • Traveling to Tram as a blue but having someone flag on them after they are already there.
     
  4. SuperKen

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    There's an option to dump your journal to a .txt file which will be located within your UO directory. I believe you have to have the setting on beforehand though.

    The lock button also works on the ingame journal, so long as you give it no further commands.
     
  5. Yalp

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    Both reds came and went through the public moongate on several independent occasions, if there was an EM moongate open, no one saw it. These are long time reds who I would suspect have well over 100 murder counts, so there wasn't use of pardon scrolls.
     
  6. Lt.Snuggles

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    sounds like you're on a witch hunt yalp.
     
  7. Omnius

    Omnius Crazed Zealot
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    yeah. As for em moongates, my red can't go through them to trammel.
     
  8. Viper09

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    Screenshot it next time. Would be cool to see.
     
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    there is a bug which allows this.
     
  10. retrorider

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    I didn't mean that they jumped an EM gate the day you saw them, just that that is one way reds can cross over.

    Once a red is in tram they can use gates just like any blue. They can also be friended to homes and log in and out normally just any blue.
     
  11. retrorider

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    Yes, it sure is unusual but back in November there was a Fel EM event that left from Tram Brit meeting hall near the stables. Afterwards The EM's threw a gate back to the Tram meeting hall and along came a couple of well known reds.

    If was quite funny. They hid immediately but the EM's revealed them and booted them back to Fel.
     
  12. put up a link?
    .... and no "guards" response?
    *shrugs*

    ORIGIN - Ultima Online - MyUO Character Pages

    they should show signs of the new "dye" ... *wink*
     
  13. retrorider

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    There I fixed it for ya! :p
     
  14. G.v.P

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    guards dont kill murderers just for being there ... hm, although, you'd expect them to try and lock them up, at least ... haha
     
  15. Prime.

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    Didn't you know, Dev's finally allowed reds into trammel, it's now discrimination. :lol:
     
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    pfft i dont know why you're even making such a big mess out of this yalp..hell you're ALWAYS in guardzone anyways..you were safe, you werent harmed,so why are you whining?
     
  17. Viper09

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    Huh, sounds like someone didn't even bother to read this at all.
     
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    You might be laughing at the idea but I for one have always thought they should be allowed free passage across facets. Outside of Felucca they are harmless except for their mouths, and well a few bannings will take care of a lot of that.
     
  19. Prime.

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    Never said I didn't think it wasn't a good idea! :heart:
     
  20. Yalp

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    Here's more details.

    I received a message from a guildmate who was on his mule. He was stunned to see 2 reds fighting in TRAM at WBB. I told him he was mistaken and took the wrong gate. He assured me he was not wrong and to come check it myself. I recalled to WBB via the portal system, (Britain Mint). There at the gate were 2 reds, who my alliance fights regularly in fel. They were in Fel earlier in the day. They must have well over 5 murder counts, as they are long term reds. There was no EM event during the day. So it's assumed there was no EM gate to follow, and no previous event that allowed them to log out in TRAM.

    I sent an alliance message to come witness this. Several people told me I was mistaken in my rune travel, but came anyway and witnessed the same thing. A general chat announcement brought people not allied with me to also witness this.

    Upon seeing the crowd gathering, the 2 reds went out the public moongate and gated away. Within 5 minutes, there were 2 more reds coming back through the moongate. This time they were differently named, but since I had pulled the lifebars of the 2 previous combatants, and those lifebars lit up red when these 2 appeared, it's safe to say they were the same reds who had used the incognito spell.

    They ran around the crowd that had gathered at the bank and then back out the public moongate.

    Within moments, a third round of 2 reds, incognito, with the original lifebars I pulled showing red again lit up. This time they ran around town, without any armor, with their guild tags being turned off. Again they ran out the public moongate.

    The fact that no blues were killed is immaterial. Lt. Snuggles is part of the same guild as these 2 reds who have found an exploit that allows them to come and go to TRAM at their leisure should tell anyone reading these threads of his motives.

    The fact that there is an exploit which certain reds of the same guild have found is what should be the point of this thread.
     
  21. heh!

    the fact that no reds were killed .... :scholar: Cowards one and all ...
     
  22. Elden of Baja

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    Snuggles is hiding secrets from me...... If they let reds in tram it would take away some of the fun of being a "Naughty" Murderer, although then maybe more blues"*COUGH*" would flag and not hide in gz.... although there wouldn't be any need for forged pardons anymore :p

    When Dealing with $c$ never underestimate how fast they move or how many of them are soon to be coming from other shards :)

    That they found a way to bring reds into tram? Not surprising :p
     
  23. Lt.Snuggles

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    elden i honestly think semidar could beat you in a foot race lol.
     
  24. Yalp

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    You can also assume my smither, carp, fletcher, fisherman, alchemist, scribe, tinker, tailor, glassblower, mason and gardener don't go to fel.
     
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    So that's why I suck at PvP, that's my main's template :,<
     
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    I don't get it. You can't engage in non-con in Tram; I.e. the reds can't attack any blues, only each other. So who cares?
     
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    Who cares? Those pks who want to enter trammel and can't. Clearly the people in question here know something that all others want to know.
     
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    cartel involved in cheating and exploits ?

    you say that like it's something new... Right SKen ?
     
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    What happens to a red trying to use a crystal portal or bracelets of binding to other facets they would not normally be able to access?
     
  30. Elden of Baja

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    Semidar CAN beat me in a foot race, but that's why I only fight her with my Whammy, which is Much Much Better than your Sampire :p
     
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    it tells you no.
     
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    please dont use that tag, it has since been retired for years now. there is not but one member playing with them anymore who was $C$. They are now known as TC and are nothing like we were many moons ago.
     
  34. Black Sun

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    He asked about saving his journal, the question was answered, as interesting as this drama is :)popcorn:) I think we've had enough.
     
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