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Discussion in 'UHall' started by MissEcho, Dec 14, 2012.

  1. MissEcho

    MissEcho Slightly Crazed
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    has the word Heartwood been inappropriate? I can't even figure out why.

    It was fine to mark last week, now it is not. This is getting ridiculous. It ins't the word 'wood' as all my houses are marked with wood in the name, ie Angelwood, Duskwood, Icewood, Darkwood etc and I hardly think the 'heart' is or should be inappropriate. The whole thing is beyond me.

    You actually NEED to be able to mark places in UO as there is no point in marking the runes 'where the elf town is'. It shouldn't have to be a cryptic puzzle to mark places with stupid names just to be able to fill rune books for sale.

    Is like you used to be able to mark Compassion Shrine, then one day you couldn't.

    Talk about a Nanny state, can someone fix this stupidity?
     
  2. MalagAste

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    It has EA in it
     
  3. Uriah Heep

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    Yeah. Titan Valley is a bad word too...as are several others. It has gotten to where our political correctness and censorship, and protecting us from ourselves is totally #$^^*_+ ridiculous.
     
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  4. Flutter

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    They had fixed it but I guess the last patch brought it back. Anything with EA is "inappropriate" now. (again, as it was before they fixed it)
     
  5. Kyronix

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    A fix for this is currently in testing, keep and eye on UO.com for updates.
     
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  6. MissEcho

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    Just get rid of the whole censor thing, good grief, the average age of players here is well above 20 and I am positive that if anyone abuses it there will be pages instantly to get things corrected, a few bans for those that think it is cute would soon put a stop to things.

    Anyways, thanks Kyronix, hope it is addressed soon.
     
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  7. Kyronix

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    I had the unpleasant experience of having to look at the censor list today, believe me...you wouldn't want it taken out.
     
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  8. Lythos-

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    Creative bunch of players huh?

    In all reality though, there's worse being said on daytime-primetime tv including the news.
     
  9. claudia-fjp

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    Don't worry we see most of your censor list in general chat on my server daily thanks to one of your fine customers.
     
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  10. Hunters' Moon

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    It's odd to hear this come from a stratics moderator.
     
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  11. Kojak

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    if they're gonna add words like ea to the list, why not add <space>ea<space> to the list instead and you'd avoid the problem entirely - same goes for alot of the other words - titan valley would work then
     
  12. KLOMP

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    Nobody really gives a crap if someone marks a rune with the word "titty" on it. They just want to be able to play the game without this shockingly amateurish filter getting in the way.
     
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  13. Olahorand

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    Found also that I could not longer rename a bear by attaching some characters to bearliner, or name a pet Beatrice ... Really stupid filtering.

    Also earlier named runes like Titans Hammer, this name is unusable as well now.
     
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    Let us all take to the streets in protest and run around in-game spamming "TITTY TITTY TITTY" until something is done.

    It is my playstyle and I will not let you tell me it is wrong.
     
  15. Uvtha

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    Baby, I'd like to grab your titan just squeeze it. Oh mercy...
     
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    Just for interest, I understand now about the ea bit (lets hope its sorted soon) and I have long understood why my Paladin could not be labelled with his guild title of Patron of Compassion but can anyone tell me why I cannot name one of my chickens Gregory Peck? I admit it baffles me.
     
  17. Hunters' Moon

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    Peck = pecker...? Very childish to censor that word imo.
     
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    Thank goodness that my name is Lindae rather than Lindea, or wouldn't I be in trouble come census time!

    I would much rather that I had a completely different name that did not make me sound like a bloody woman, but such is my lot in life. Thank you, Mother.
     
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    That explalins why I couldn't write Brit Bank East on a Rune. I couldn't figure out why. Doesn't explain why I couldn't write Counselor's Guild Hall on a rune for it's location in Brit.
     
  20. Mentiras

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    yea i just got Greatly was unacceptable... I used to write that all the time while idoc'ing
     
  21. old gypsy

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    On runes, I just abbreviate.
     
  22. Lady Laurel

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    The word Councelor

    Just like you can't do Compassion, Pass or Passage, Assassin's Guild, Basement, Crumbling Mountains, Cocoon, Companion
     
  23. Kayhynn

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    But the book I was copying them from had it just fine. That's what I don't get.

    and yeah I knew the Compassion, etc. because of *ss" in the word. The filter is a wee bit strong.
     
  24. MalagAste

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    Well trust me I wish that folk who attempt to be "cute" and circumvent the censors would get a BAN. I'm sick and tired of seeing some of the highly inappropriate names all over. And though I page continually on some of them far too often NOTHING is ever done.

    Only one time when someone thought it was cute to try to name their character King BIackthorn.... did I EVER see anything done about a name. But some of the other stuff I've seen that I wouldn't post here gets by just fine... Yet I can't mark a rune to Compassion Grove????
     
  25. Barry Gibb

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    Counselor is included because of the old counselor system which was in place long ago. One of the prohibited words list is used for both profane words and proper terms of the UO staff. The list probably needs to be revisited/revised/revamped. It is very tedious to have a legitamate, respectful word prohibited because it contains simple letter combinations. This is further aggrivating when other systems of communication (such as chat and p2p talking) do not adhere to the same rules. Inconsistency is a headache.

    Stayin Alive,

    BG
     
  26. Olahorand

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    Oh is my vendor named Cleanup Points now rare? Or my char Lady von Heardwood?
    I could not rename him to Spring Cleaning or whatever has "clean" in name.
    Whoever came up with the idea to add 2 letter combos to forbidden name parts ... no I can't continue my comment here, since that would be inappropriate words for that filter.
     
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  27. The Mule

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    I have chests engraved in my house with Orc B#$, Snaggletooth B#$@, and every other bad word associated with Bass...
     
  28. LordDrago

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    Unfortunately, average age is a very poor indicator of average maturity level.

    That latter lags far behind the former.
     
  29. MissEcho

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    Actually I would rather the list be scrapped, and restarted.

    There are obvious whole words that should be filtered, and sure put them on the list, but words such as ass are not one of them, nor ea, nor tit. These words have many meanings and even if used in the derogatory form are hardly offensive in this day and age. You hear much worse in movies or on TV, even American TV, and America's filters are way tougher than the rest of the world. In fact most USA filters would be considered draconian in most places.

    The chat filter can deal with most things that people may find offensive if they are that thin skinned.

    It is the word that generally goes in front of ass or tit that is the offensive part. As in you F****** etc.

    And as Kojak said above to filter the EA brand <space>EA<space> would work in both lower and upper case, and work equally well for <space>ass<space) etc if there was a need to even worry about this word. I once tried to name a character 'Spiced Queen' but that was disallowed, it doesn't like the inoffensive word spice, another case of killing the language to avoid one derogatory term. Kojaks suggestion would eliminate the same problem. Surely if something slips by it can be added as and when it is reported. But do so in a manner that does not negate half of the English language because it contains a series of letters that MAY form part of a word.

    Common sense should prevail, and if you 'must' censor at this level, re write the code so that the 'exact' offensive word is filtered with the use of <space> as Kojak suggests rather than this grouping of letters format.


    :p
     
  30. The Mule

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    But then EAsucks@#$ or IFu#$%KillYouIRL can slip through and we will all have to laugh and laugh...
     
  31. Olahorand

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    "Ass" is also an example, how bad filters of this kind are in games with players speaking different languages.
    In German this word has the meaning of Ace (like in Ace of Spades, Flying Ace).
     
  32. RaDian FlGith

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    The problem isn't really the words being censored, it's how they're being censored, and the trouble is, the filter errs on the side of those who would cause trouble. On the other hand, players who have legitimate reasons for using letter combinations end up unable to do so because the filter is heavy handed.

    We've been told for ages that the system knows who last named an object. If that's not really true, then I'd suggest making it true; if it is true, then you know who the culprits are when something goes way overboard.

    My personal thought on it is to err on the side of the players, and allow things like Compassion, Assassin, Great Lakes, Ambassador, Embassy, Competition, and a half million other words be used, and those people who can't behave themselves should be invited to cease playing. For too long has the lowest common denominator held too much sway over how the average player plays the game. It's time to take the game back from the lowlifes who ruin it for those who enjoy to play.
     
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  33. KLOMP

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    It's perfectly legal to sit at the bank and swear yourself blue. Supposedly it's illegal to do it in global chat, but I think we all know THAT isn't really being enforced. Oh but someone might put the word "ass" on a rune. Oh it's a catastrophe.
     
  34. Basara

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    As I've said before, as an American playing a game based in the US, I find it highly ironic that the filter is so poorly designed that CONSTITUTION is an unacceptable word....
     
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  35. Hunters' Moon

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    There are so many things I'd like to say in reply to this statement above,but my post would be quickly snuffed out by a mod,because of political incorrectness. But I'll just state the usual "this ^" in reply.
     
  36. Bobar

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    Well I might accept that but strangely enough it does accept 'a Gregory Peck' why the addition of an 'a' makes a difference is odd to say the least :confused: