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slayer book for wod?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Lorddog, Jan 25, 2013.

  1. Lorddog

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    does a slayer book work with mystic and/or spellweaver?
    does a talisman slayer?
    I tried using a slayer spell book i held on navery and it didnt increase wod damage. just wondering.
     
  2. Tjalle

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    It works with Myst at least.

    My bombards went from 25-35 to 75-85 when I equipped the slayer book. Hopefully someone else knows more about the WoD thingy.
     
  3. MalagAste

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    Martyna says "YES! Slayer books work really, really, well with WoD! They work for Mystics too. Slayer Talismans do absolutely nothing." And Tyrtle is on crack.
     
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  4. Tyrtle

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    However the slayer does not work for WoD. Equip a good SDI book like a scrappers.

    Talisman slayers don't work for a Mage at all.
     
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  5. Tjalle

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    *scratches head*
     
  6. Gospel

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    Slayers DO NOT effect Spellweaving spells. Spell damage does. Martyna is on crack.

    Slayers do work with Mysticism.

    Slayer talisman do not work with spells.
     
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    Ummm.... yeah, slayers do affect Word of Death.
     
  8. MalagAste

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    Yes they do work with WoD... and Martyna does know how to play ....... but perhaps it is you who might want to test that before you speak. Not being a Mage I wouldn't know.
     
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    If one is fortunate to have a Slayer Scrapper's Compendium they may just be thinking the increased damage is coming from the slayer property and just seeing the benefits of 25% SDI in their Word damage.

    (Misread what Nusair said)
     
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  10. Tyrtle

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    I have tested it out many times and see no difference in damage increase when I use a slayer book and casting WoD. When I use a scrappers it certainly goes up because of the 25% SDI.

    SDI works for WoD, slayer books do not.
     
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    Word of Death will deal a great amount of Direct Damage to a PvE target that is under the necessary amount of health. If the target is not under the required damage threshold, a pitiful amount of damage will be dealt. The chart at right details and gives an example of when it can be used. Slayerspellbooks do not enhance damage caused by Word of Death, but SDI does at the rate of 1 SDI = 3 Damage. There is no hard cap on SDI and therefore no hard cap on the amount of damage that can be dealt by Word of Death. The limit is only how much SDI a player can manage to pack onto one character, and damages of well over 700 points are not unheard of.
     
  12. Quickblade

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    for those who wants a 100s more damage on Wod just put the spell focusing sash on and do 16 x magic arrow until you reach the spike top damage then your 5 next spells will have a boost in spell damage so do 5 X WoD and then start over with 16 x magic arrow and 5 x WoDs :)

    EDIT: Well Actually when that Sash was released it worked with WoD but I'm not sure if it still works can anyone test it out?
     
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  13. Barry Gibb

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    Talisman Slayers do not effect spells (from any skill). They apply to melee only. Also, Slayer properties on weapons apply only to melee. Having a SC Slayer weapon will not improve your spell damage.

    The slayer property on spell books effects most direct damage Magery and Mysticism spells. Super Slayers provide +100% damage increase (double damage), where as Lesser Slayers provide +200% damage increase (triple damage). Slayer spell books do not effect Necromancy or Spellweaving damage. I suspect any observable spellweaving damage increase is from SDI, else you would see the damage increases indicated above.

    See here for more detail:
    http://www.uoguide.com/Slayer
    http://uo.stratics.com/content/arms-armor/slayerweapons.php

    Stayin Alive,

    BG
     
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    If you find a Slayer that works with WoD I will pay you 10 Billion for you right now. It doesn't exist. It cannot be done.
     
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  15. The Mule

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    I have 2, where do we meet?
     
  16. Gospel

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    Wow, aren't you aggressive? It is FACT that slayers don't work with WoD. It has nothing to do with knowing how to play. And yeah, I have tested it. Unlike yourself or your friend I prefer to make sure what I say is fact before stating it as such.

    Look, it's real easy to test. Slayers do double and triple damage. Get a spider slayer and go to Navrey. Triple of 400+ damage should be real easy to see. It's not rocket science.
     
  17. MalagAste

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    Well I can say what Marty tells me and Marty says they work. Not exactly like a slayer works but it does give a bonus.
     
  18. Gospel

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    Well, Marty is wrong. Sorry.
     
  19. Mr. Smither1

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    wod22.jpg
    Some spellbooks give extra damage on wod vs some bosses.
     
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  20. cdavbar

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    If the slayer book has SDI on it also, sure the book gives more damage because of the SDI, not the Slayer.
     
  21. Gospel

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    No, they don't. Why would that be the case? Think about it. What you're likely seeing in the picture is the effect of Blood Oath.
     
  22. Obsidian

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    How much SDI are you using in that pic?
     
  23. BigEv

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    i have tried slayers with Wod and it doesnt do anymore damage. Why is this even a debate. Lol.

    Edit: i havent tried it against the DF but why would it be any different, all the other bosses i have tried on, it makes no difference!
     
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    Exactly what I'm saying. If Malagste wants to use slayer books more power to him, but they don't increase damage and there's no use misinforming other players.

    If you want to increase WoD damage, pile on the SDI and use Evil Omen.
     
  25. Harlequin

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    Can I take you up on that bet?

    In normal cases, Slayers do not work with WoD.
     
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    Darkfathers are affected by both demon slayer/elemental slayer on spellbook and works with WoD...

    Demon slayer is +100% damage increase
    elemental slayer will be +50% damage increase but you will aswell take +50% more damage from demons
    So a double slayer book/weapon (demon/elemental(can be a lesser elemental also) will do total of +150% damage increase.

    EDIT:Actually for WoD I think only the elemental slayer on spellbook will affect the DF so if you used to do around 600 on DF you will do 900 on it. I think its a bug if not can someone explain it does the DF carry a ''hidden'' demon slayer in hands thus thats why it received +50 % damage when someone carry an Elemental slayer ?

    Now, Can I have my 10 billions ?
     
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  27. Mr. Smither1

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    I will accept your billions also, just hold a fallen mystic spellbook while doing wod on DF and you will double your damage. That is a spellbook causing wod to do double damage vs a boss.
     
  28. BigEv

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    The fallen mystic book does not do double damage to bosses as u are saying, ive tried on mel many times.. At least when i tried it did not unless there is a new BUG out there allowing it to do so. I havent tried in awhile since the last time since they didnt work. Also why would tht book work on the DF??? Its a fey slayer! If that is whats happening its a bug.

    Edit: just tried again on mel today and with fallen mystic book and wod was doing 600damage and with my regular scrapper book i was doing 645! so def still doesnt work at least for mel
     
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  29. Harlequin

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    Bah, you guys are no fun... I was hoping that he'll let me take him up on the 10 bil bet before someone revealed the secret...
     
  30. Harlequin

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    IIRC, letting Elemental slayers do extra 50% damage to DF was intended since AOS and is not a bug.

    DF is a special boss that this trick works on. (plus the events that used the DF, like the first Halloween and part of the Magincia invasion).

    Tip 1 - It doesn't matter which elemental slayer you are using, so buy yourself a cheap Scrapper with one of the less popular elemental slayers (snow, water etc).
    Tip 2 - In a pinch, slayer properties on weapons will work too (on DF only, and the weapon will need spell chanelling)