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So I bought 2 verite hammers...

Discussion in 'UHall' started by RavenWinterHawk, Jul 23, 2008.

  1. I bought 2 verite hammers and used them.

    Why did I buy them? Well they were 8.5 million each.

    Oh the agapite hammers I collected and bought up during the black rock trade in are pretty much worthless now. I used to sell them for 7 million.

    But I cant now because verites are 8 - 8.5 million.


    Thanks EA for really stepping up.

    Now the quesition is... I made 20 of the mage tokuno armour gorgets (mephistos?)

    12 of them had 14% or higher reflect physical damage. Talk about lousy random rolls.

    The good news is I destroyed 2 hammers and yielded nothing for the game.

    Anyone suggest what the key weapon and armour is to make with them?
    And what mods you want?

    Just wondering
    I found barbed kits 1.8 million.

    I figure at this rate. We will have everything uber by the time Stygain Abyss comes out.

    Im working on a 100% Reflect Physical damage 70's suit for PvM
    I must just make that 2000 plus luck suit then with the luck statue have 3000luck.
    I already have my 70s max mana regen LRC suit.

    Dang EA whats next.
    I bet its time to raise the monsters hit points again and increase the damage.

    If we were to discuss how to make the game more of a game. Strategy, planning, crafting, etc...

    I know factions is being overhauled.
    Dupes are always being addressed.

    But arent there smalling things EA is missing that can be done to increase the game playability that dont require tons of effort.

    Why arent they addressed?

    Yeah I am annoyed lately. I cant xshard to close one off my account because of dupers, ea isnt talking, and I am wasting my money.
     
  2. Erekose

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    I've always said that Legendary crafters should be able to choose one property they want. The rest would be random.

    That being said, I burned an aggie last week and got 3 good weapons out of it. Not so bad especially considering I got it by doing BOD's.

    The recent resurgence of duping has flooded the shards with high end runic hammers. EA is obviously not concerned with cheating though because they make token efforts to 'fix' it.
     
  3. ParadoxUO

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    Suggestion:
    1- Make bods and crafting tools account bonded.
    2- Increase the % of valuable bods we get, or allow us to get more per day.
    3- Make the quests work like the gauntlet artefacts... after some we get a random colored tool.

    That would destroy the dupers plan...
     
  4. I love that idea.
    Its like a compromise. A beautiful one.

    I think account bonding as a blankets sucks.

    But I have always posted to make duping more difficult and scripting less effective.

    This is a GREAT idea.
     
  5. Omnius

    Omnius Crazed Zealot
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    Theres no downsides to massive influxes of high end crafted armor into the game. The downsides are insurance prevents the loss of this armor from the game, Even though it doesn't leave, it still means that items are more easily obtained and the items we all depend on less tedious to collect.

    Lower barriers to entry into pvp and saturation of the best crafted gear into the economy means its all cheap and easy to obtain. Now we just need a skill system revamp and we can all play end game where it's fun rather than in boring grind/macro land.
     
  6. Gildar

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    That would also destroy the whole legitimate merchant side of BODs.



    It's time to reduce the impact armor has on gameplay, not make it more important.
     
  7. o2bavr6

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    They are called Mempos.

    Even with Val hammers burning the japanese armor the most common property you get is reflect phys. It's kind of a drag.

    Personaly with verite and valorite hammers i would only burn the japanese armor mostly on legs and arms, but some mempos and even tunics with verite ingots.

    Don't burn weapons with them, its not worth it. You should use agapite for weapons with dull copper ingots.
     
  8. good advice
    though Im a merchant.
    Ive never been able to really price armour or weapons.
    Keeping what I like.
    Hoping to sell some stuff.


    I did the mempos, arms, legs but used valorite. If i get some extra money. Ill go verite.

    The problem with AGGY hammers now, is the cost the same as the Verite. But I guess its a 4/4 4/5 thing.

    Thanks
     
  9. o2bavr6

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    If you play Chessy I can give you 1000 verite ingots if you need them. I can also show you some of the pieces of armor I've made.

    I use the verite instead of valorite for the resist mods only.

    Ya pricing is strange. My logic was that if you can get an aggie cheaper than a verite use the aggie for weapons and the verite/valroite for armor.

    But if they are the same price you may want to try gold hammers with dull copper for weapons and the aggie/verite/valorite for armor.
     
  10. Thanks
    I am on atlantic though.
    Im good with ingots.

    Figured Id learn a new aspect of the game while its there.

    Armour goes for stupid prices here (luna of course). And then you see almost the same piece and it 1/2 as much 5 vendors down.

    Ah time to learn something new.
     
  11. o2bavr6

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    Pricing drives me nuts, I have friends who will sell an item for 80 mill, yet when i have one that is even better I cant sell it at all. Go figure!!

    Good luck with it all.

    Oh BTW, do you use an ASH hammer in your characters hand when you burn runic hammers? I use a +60ASH hammer.

    Also try to get the best blacksmith talisman you can find if you already havent.

    I'm not sure what the cutoff point is but I never fail at making "mage armor" with the 60ASH hammer and talisman, when making the japanese armor.
     
  12. Demonous

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    great ideas, i hope the devs read this and take note
     
  13. Landicine

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    1. The problem with BODs being account bonded is that the original point of BODs was that crafters would work together. The problem is that the system never really worked in that way. The system instead rewards scripters and dupers. Also, I own two accounts with a couple crafters on each (one of them is a friend's old account with our guild crafter). I would have to add another layer of complexity to my BOD sorting. It would feel like once again I was being punished for the actions of some cheater.

    2. I would like to see a slight increase in the % of good bods and reduce the timer a good bit, but perhaps put a cap on the number of times you can turn in bods for more. I like being able to turn in bods for more, but I also notice that Mr. Scripter is doing it about a thousand times more while I'm at work/sleeping/doing other things in game.

    3. I've always thought the rewards should be more random (to encourage people to fill more random BODs). Since I know what BODs give what, I won't even bother doing certain BODs. This is a bit of a shame. The rewards shouldn't also be impossible like the Heartwood quests. I've gotten a few good recipes there, but even the low level runics seem pretty rare.

    Duping is very difficult to fight. I've watched dupers switch their targets so much over 10 years. First it was piles of gold. Then checks. Then piles of ingots to sell to players/NPCs. Then it was cloth which was cut into bandages for sale to NPCs with a script. Then it was rares and runics that jumped the shards. Then it was the bods to make runic hammers. Dupers are constantly finding ways to break the system. This makes it difficult to fight. Most of the fighting needs to take place quietly since scripters read the boards and uo.com and know when to start looking for a new xploit. Considering the ease of getting a new account (many dupers and scripters probably know about and abuse the 15-day freebies), I'm not sure game fixes will ever be enough.

    In some ways, players have more power than they realize. When we buy resources in game from a scripter, buy gold for cash from a scripter, buy a rare from a duper, guild with a hacker, etc. etc., we encourage this behavior, make it profitable, and make it that much easier. I don't think many of us are without blame. I've bought ingots and gems that were a little bit too cheap. I've known people who bought gold. I'm not sure of an easy way to insure I only buy honest goods from honest players besides buying nothing.
     
  14. o2bavr6

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    I wish that all items would be obtained from loot off of corpses and that it should be random as to the creatures you have to kill. Instead of doing the Doom Gauntlet for Arties you could get arites from any high end creature like the old days.

    This is one way to stop scripters, especially if runic tools were loot instead of a reward. Not sure how this would affect crafters, other than saving them some time, but I'm willing to listen.
     
  15. Landicine

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    I know a few crafters who would be furious about this. Truly devoted crafters like to focus on just crafting, and not fighting monsters. I personally don't think this is a fix considering scripters can fight certain monsters with ease.
     
  16. o2bavr6

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    Understood, I was just thinking that the crafters would still be needed to use the items, just not necessarily to get the items.

    I always thought the the filling of BoDs was tedious, but thats just me.
     
  17. o2bavr6

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    True but it's more difficult to do, because another player can come along and mess up the script since he isn't afk.

    And in Fel you can just kill the scripter.

    In the fan dancer dojo, I used to just summon my own demon with magery to mess with the scripters trying to kill demons. My summoned demon would mess up their targeting system, it was pretty funny.
     
  18. Elydir

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    This no longer works with runic hammers. A little known new *feature* we didn't ask for. You cannot equip one tool and use another. Try it and you'll get a message to that effect. So basically the ASH is only good for enhancing things now.
     
  19. I was using my ASH in hand.
    I would click the verite hammer (in pack) and it would take a charge off the verite hammer.

    This was last night.
     
  20. miss uo

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    Equipping ash and working with a runic hammer, works fine.
     
  21. mmmbeer

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    we'd all love to see targeted crafting...never gonna happen!
     
  22. Landicine

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    BODs are tedious, though not as bad as Heartwood quests. I usually only do BODs when I'm running low on hammers or powder. My problem in game has always been one where I have too many things I need to do and too many other things I want to do.
     
  23. o2bavr6

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    Thats why I wish they would make them easier in game to get. I know that EA wants it to take people along time, because every month that goes buy is money in their pocket, but being able to get only 2 to 4 honest val hammers a year is just dumb.

    Especially when as you say, there are other aspects or templates that you would like to play as well, so it takes even longer than if you exclusively played your smith.
     
  24. Doomsday Dragon

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    In todays game anything less than a valorite hammer = poop.

    I burned a few agapite hammers and was not impressed at all. I skipped over verite hammers because they aren't much better.
     
  25. Elydir

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    Took me awhile to search through my journals to find the exact message. But this was the message I received on July 4th when I tried to hold an ASH in my hand and use a runic. I tried twice and got the message both times. Perhaps it has been fixed. I will retest later tonight.

    "If you have a tool equipped, you must use that tool."
     
  26. o2bavr6

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    So you had the ASH hammer in your hand and the runic hamer in your pack, and when you double clicked the runic hammer in you pack it gave you that message? If so thats weird, cause ive ben burning all kinds of hammers over the last 4 or 5 months.
     
  27. Elydir

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    I tested it just now and it is working as it used to now. I don't know why it behaved like it did on the 4th but it's definitely in my journal. Bug I guess.