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so.... these fordged artifacts

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Poo, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. Poo

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    some of you may remember how much fun i had with that new fordged artifact a couple weeks ago.

    pulling my hair out.
    curled up in the fetal position crying.
    good times.

    so, after thinking about it for a while i thought of something that i could finally use it on.

    and guess what!
    it didnt work for me again and i lost yet another charge!

    eh gahds i love these things!

    so this is what happened.
    i was bored, and when i get bored i make a new character somewhere.
    its what i do.
    its OCD, i know.

    so i decided to make a swordys bushy pally cause they can be fun.

    realised i hadnt made a melee guy on this shard in a LONG time, my nox weapons to train on a golem where sad indeed.
    so i thought.... why dont i imbue one!

    grand idea.
    gived me a excuse to use that queens souldforge and burn off some relics.

    so i pick up a 100% poison salad fork and imbue some HCI and some SSI on it.
    then add some UBWS so i can use it for doing swords and i figure this will be a good weapon to hand onto and keep for later use.

    then i recall a while back you could hit a weapon with Dull Copper and double the durability.

    and then the light bulb went off.

    i just invested some powerder of fort on this item to get it up to 255 durability.
    i invested some relics.
    i invested some other ingrediants.... whats one charge from a fordged artifact to push it up to a uber elite training weapon!!?!!?!!

    so i go and read the write up on this thing again.
    and it says right there.... it will 100% do the enhancement even if it pushes the item past the cap....

    sweet sauce, im finally gonna get this thing to work for me!

    so i imbue the salad fork with dull copper..... and no change in durability.
    its still at 255.

    it did add the lower requirement to it, but no doubling of the durability.

    so, i have to ask.
    what the hell is the use of this thing if its not going to do what it says its gonna do!!??!???!??!?!

    i hate this thing.

    i want to love it..... i really do.
    i want to run through fields of daisy's with it and spin is around as we let the tall grass and flowers slip through out toes on a blue sky sunny day.

    but it hates me.
    it wants to see me cry.
    and it finds some preverse pleasure in it..... my precious

    [​IMG]
     
  2. Kim Li of LS

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    enhancing for increased durability will no longer exceed the 255 cap, patched....a loonng time ago(i think)......so the enhance was successful, just didn't add anything
     
  3. Poo

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    exactlly

    but thats not what the write up on these things say.

    they say they will alow the enhancment to push it PAST the cap.
     
  4. Ender

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    I don't remember it ever saying it does anything but give you a 100% chance of enhancing, which does work, I just used it last week.
     
  5. MalagAste

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    You are not having much luck with this are you Poo?

    I wish I could help you but the one and only thing I plan to use mine for is to make one heck of an Uber Luck suit.

    Since enhancing is at 100% and trying to add 40 luck to a 100 luck item is often met with failure.
     
  6. Ezekiel Zane

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    It'll push you past the 450 or 500 max intensity cap for imbuing. It will also push past the 30%SSI cap.

    I remember when the durability changes went in. So they must have hard-coded durabiltiy to never exceed 255.
     
  7. Alvinho

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    I believe I am going to cherish my multiple halberds with 510 Durability then!!!

    *Evil Chuckle*:thumbup1:
     
  8. Poo

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    well when they say it will let you push past the cap, it would be nice to know that it is for some stuff and not others.
     
  9. Lord Frodo

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    What it should have done is put Durability 100% tag on it jult like the Lower Requirements 50% tag. But no where does it say that it take your Duribility from 255 to 510 on Stratics material bonuses page.
     
  10. Vaelix

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    All this "Pushing above cap" stuff is the same ol enhancing that has always been..

    Aka..

    If you have an item imbued with 490% Intensity, and you enhance it.. The extra properties and intensity stack, effectively pushing the item above cap..

    Thats all.. The only thing this item does is give you a 100% Success Rate.

    And on SSI.. You are exceeding the SSI Cap by enhancing the item with 10 SSI Wood (Which has always been the case) and has nothing to do with the Forged Tool, other than the success rate.

    (*Note* You've always been able to exceed intensity cap via enhancement, you were just prone to failure usually..)
     
  11. Ezekiel Zane

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    Yeah, SSI was a poor choice of an example. What you said is exactly right. All the regular enhancing rules apply with the exception of breakage.
     
  12. Saunders

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    Just as a matter of interest, what would have happened had you powdered to 250 rather than 255 before enhancing?
     
  13. A Rev

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    These tools are amazing!!

    I have revently made a full suit of 6 moded armour and its awesome!!!
     
  14. puni666

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    Should have only powdered it to 130 :/ then it'd double to 255. Saves on fort powder.
     
  15. Vaelix

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    Fort is like 140k

    1 Charge on these guys is about 1.5 - 2 Mil (As they are selling 15-20)

    *Cough*

    It saves on fort but is realistically more expesive from a Shardwise economic standpoint. :gun:
     
  16. Tinsil

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    I mean this in the nicest way possible.. but you type really, really bad for being a UO Moderator.

    And yes, they did fix the DC moving the Dur past the cap quite some time ago. You could've asked around.. somebody would have known this.
     
  17. Poo

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    why should UO moderators be required to spell good?

    im paid for my good looks and charm, and to baby sit spoiled kids, not my spelling.

    as to your main point, ive known the DC boost had been fixed a long time ago, but the write up on these new tools said they would push the item past the allowed caps so i assumed that meant the durability cap.

    and how would anyone else have known that these tools wouldnt allow this until some poor fella like me tries it?

    all im saying is these things need to have a bit more of a write up on them then "hey, you can enhance with them!"
    *insert cheesy used car saleman smile*
     
  18. Ender

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    It doesn't say anything about ignoring caps on properties, just a 100% enhancement chance.
     
  19. need the link then ... neh?
    spelling well ... aids reading well ... just saying ... NOT critiquing

    http://uogamecodes.com/store/prod_detail.asp?ProdID=UOFORGEDTOOL10&CartID={915FED42-112B-4FD9-A5E2-4DD4C9B5A899}&PromoID=996
    Having difficulty getting that quality piece of armor or weapon? Just need that simple boost to get you over the top. How about a tool that offers 100% enhancement. Let the tool do the work, and be off adventuring in minutes versus hours.

    :blushing:
     
  20. Theo_GL

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    The words you type convey your intelligence. Given the fact that you choose to use incomplete sentences, poor grammer choice and generally unintelligent banter - it is not surprising that people question your qualifications to be a moderator.

    Try using 'spell well' not 'spell good'.


    You sound like you are in 2nd grade since my third grader types better.
     
  21. Elden of Baja

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    I'd rather have a cool moderator that isn't the best at grammar then an idiot/jerk who has perfect grammar.
     
  22. Quenchant

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    Actually Richard,

    I would think that most moderators, in the professions, were chosen for their expertise in particular game skills and their ability to convey that information to the folks that have questions. They might also, try and encourage discussions or get folks to try new ways concerning the topic of the forum. That would be first on my list when looking for a moderator. The second would be to keep a cool head and not be frustrated by obvious trolls and personal attacks.

    If you go back and read Poo's posts, almost all of them are fashioned in the same manner as what has been posted here. Poo's style is to be a bit humorous and cajoling. Some might even call this style, refreshing and friendly.

    Since your disdain for his style is so massive that you attack his education and intelligence, I would suggest that you simply put Poo on your ignore list. Doing so will alleviate the obvious pain it brings your intelligence and breeding to read such banter.

    Q

    PS It's grammar not grammer
     
  23. Petra Fyde

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    Oy! Stay out of my head!

    Actually, that's pretty much exactly the criteria Mags and I use for choosing professions board mods.
     
  24. Raptor85

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    I don't see where it says that, but it does allow you to push past the imbue caps (since enhancing stacks on those) but as with anything else you can't go past the item hard caps (and being able to go over 255 durability has been fixed for quite some time). It just gives you a 100% chance of doing something you can already technically do.
     
  25. Harlequin

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    First thing I want to tell Poo -

    I'm glad somebody tested it and shared their findings. Good attempt, coz it might just be possible that the forged tool could have minute differences that makes it work differently (ie they may not have plugged the 255 durability cap when using the tool).

    Hey, someone's got to do it, I'm doubly glad it's not me whahahahahahaha! :gee:



    Second - You should have first tested it during server down!



    Third - Look at it this way, you have gained wisdom and passed that wisdom on. And you paid only about a dollar for that bit of wisdom :D