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Discussion in 'UHall' started by HOLLYWOOD_Siege, Aug 4, 2008.
What Is the fastest and easiest way to solo this beast??
ill pay a 100k on atl if you tell me a fast and good way to kill prox solo!!!
Maybe there is no good way to solo that bad boy. I've done it a few times with guildies/alliance members.... can't possibly imagine someone soloing it
probably nobody is telling you how because the particular template is under fire. ask in game.
First sampires are not immune to posion so you obviously have no clue what your talking about. You must not have played a sampire yet you still believe yourself to be an expert on the template.
In my opinion one should be able to solo peerless and not be forced to shimmy up with a group of players in order to tackle peerless.
It's not EASY like everyone thinks it is. I have tried many many times with all different types of gear. Last night was the closest I came to being able to do it and I still died once before I managed to pull it off and it probably took me 40 mins.
I repeat it is as NOT EASY as some people make it out to be. Everything has to be 'just' right and even then if you get some bad rolls your toast.
If the samurai forum was still active you'd see posts from many people explaining the ins and outs of how to tackle peerless and also from many season veterans about how they've constantly FAILED in their attempts.
Go and try it yourself and then tell me how much of a cake walk it is...
Not immune, but it has an effect similar to petals so you don't have to worry about healing it off before you actually heal.
Regardless of it being easy or not, bosses should not be soloable. They are designed as group encounters. As far as I'm concerned Parox should toss out several AOE earthquake waves or something that will decimate a solo player if they don't have group backup. They are bosses afterall, not some mindless minion.
As far as I am concerned the only boss even worthy of the designation is the harrower because if you try to do him solo you are so. very. dead. Even without the invading reds, he's hard enough on his own.
One of the neat things about UO is that some very niche templates can solo such things, albeit with tremendous difficulty as the poster before you described.
You don't appreciate this aspect of the thing, so, whatever. There's still no reason to hope for someone else's fun to be ruined. Why do you care if some guy dies 25 times and then eventually learns what he has to do to kill the thing by himself? It doesn't prevent you and your guildies from doing the peerless in your own, easier, faster way when your turn comes. And it's not like he doesn't pay his dues in insurance money for getting to do it, the people working up to this most certainly die more than you do in the effort to get it to work.
We just have a difference of opinion and I see where your comming from...
Maybe the Dev Team needs to ADD even more monsters that are a notch above Peerless and they require groups like you suggest. Trying to solo the DH has been a long goal of mine for some time and I have failed many many times. It's one of the things that has still kept my interest in UO being that I've been unable to do it without dieing. I'm still working on changing a few things with my template and gear to go and give it another shot and see if I can't do better the next time. As a solo player I need and want that challenge and there are not alot of other things in the game that can provide that.
Now there is talk of nerfing the template which I just don't see.
Ask around but players put alot of time and resources into getting the proper gear and template in order to pull off such a feat. And it's not all Peerless that can be solo'd with the sampire template. I believe only Paroxymus and DH can be soloed maybe the travesty.
Grizzle no way in hell! Shimmering and Lady M I'd have to see it to believe it.
I urge all players and even the Devs to create a sampire and go and try for yourself gathering all the keys and tackling peerless by yourself. Go and see for yourself what a picnic it is...
But are they?
If you look carefully at the environment and abilities of each peerless, it looks very much to me like they Did intend for them to be solo'd through careful tweaking of templates and strategies.
Yes, sampires can solo all of them, but that is due to their failure to consider the impact of numerous +skill items. Even without abusing those items, every peerless can be solo'd by the right template.
The only time I ever saw an actual statement by anyone on the staff that anything was "Designed to be group content" was champ spawns.
Of course since the champions have been left unchanged for several expansions now, they can all be solod by a wide range of templates.
Not being forced to group is one of the stronger factors in keeping people in UO.
Just hit YouTube.
There are videos of sampire templates soloing every peerless.
I'll check it out. I guess I'll have even more challenges ahead of me after the corrupted unicorn unless they follow through with their bad idea of nerfing certain templates.
about 15 minutes
Now it's slightly different, i have reached 50 DCI lowering some point of LMC, and using quiver of infinity
Only 35 Necromancy? I see that must be where the main problem is, essentially giving yourself the 99 required to become a vampire then swapping it back out...Doesn't seem right.
level 4 or 5 poison works on vampires and they do need to heal it
It's only the minor poisons that they will be be affected by for a short time and then shrug off as if it never happened
i agree, not only that 'grouping up' lowers your chances of getting a good drop. .. crimmy.. ridables.. etc..
someone explained to me how to solo one of the peerless, but i haven't figured out how to do it yet.
oh well, 2 or 3 other people running with isn't to awfull i guess.
Go play a console game...
We play an online game to play with people. If people have the option to solo the boss... why in the hell would they go with a group?
I stand outside of Lady Mel waiting for a party... no one shows up, except one dude who is solo'ing the chick. I even get the keys and no one wants to partake.
What in the hell is the point of playing this videogame if you are able to solo the top bosses?
There's a movement here to end the "I can do it without you" mentality where a player can experience every aspect of Ultima Online and never once need to interact with another player.
Again, wtf is the point of this being an online game? Why shouldn't they just cut the servers and let you people play on your PCs... by yourselves.
I's not right, but for now,. it is allowed.
They should either lower the casting requirement to 35 for Vamp Form (and at the same time, make it so we can tame Greater Dragons and Cu Sihde <sp> at a lower Taming Requirement), or make it like Taming is...it only works correctly when you keep everything on.
But I agree...it's not right...you can even keep Vamp Form with zero Necro...which is lame, as well.
where do you guys get off telling peeps what template to use how to use it where to use it why to use it when to use it........ who to play with how many people to play with just childish we all pay a fee and we all have the choice to play how we want.food for thought though flame this template.
100 necro +30 on jewels
120 swords +10 mark travesty mask
120 tactics +10 mark travesty mask
120 heal +10 on enhanced aides
all legit same template. so now whats wrong with the template???? yall will find something im sure
Watch those video's carefully most are Pre-Publish 42 where you could spam evasion, leeches worked different, and your mana drain for multiple special strikes was calculated differently. It's much harder to do now than what's shown in most of those videos.
It is harder now, but you still solo it on a dexer or sampire. I've always used a sampire, because it lets me hit harder, which makes the fight quicker.
There are probably more than 10 valid dexer builds that can solo prox, though. Some take a lot longer than others.
I got travesty but it was almost time out, because she inherited the life leech. also, VE does not make you shrug off lethal poison. (to above post). Lady M would require you to come up with some interesting tactic to deal with pipe playing goats.
ive only tried lady mel (utter disaster) and dreadhorn solo.
Easiest way to deal with satyrs, make sure you have a alot of honor, honor yourself, honor one of them, Enemy of one, consecrate then lightning spam with a pixie swatter.
Course, then mel just reduces your casting and just messes you up..
Dreadhorn was ok (honored of course) until i missed 8 or 10 times in a row. Lost all perfection and...yeeaah.... Got it to half health though...so i was somewhat happy.
The sampire template can solo proxy. There used to be a thread on the sammy board which showed someone doing it.
1. it requires a kick-ass suit. Max LMC, Max DCI, high resists, some MR, HPR, SR useful. Not easy to assemble and keep on Siege.
2. it requires a killer pvm weapon with high HCI, DCI, HLD, and leeches. HLA is also good.
3. it's best running in wraith mode (for the mana leech) and using healing + life leech + pots + confidence to keep alive.
4. the vampire form is not particularly useful at proxy because the poison immunity doesn't work against level 5 poison. You'll want a lot of orange pots.
5. It's probably worth practicing on other bad ass critters first. Paragon Cu's, the dark father, paragon balrons and succubi, and that big green demon in proxy's dungeon come to mind. If you can get to the point where you can confidently solo any of these, then the proxy might be doable.
6. Even if you plan to solo, it's probably a good idea to max your sacrifice and bring a rezzer with you. He might even be useful for healing/curing you.
I have already written my skills, this is my equip in details
Mace & SHielD
Shield 15/15 fc 1 verite (caos = 4 3 2 3 1)
gloves lmc 8 SI 8 res 20 21 7 5 13
sleeves HPI 5 LMC 5 res 23 20 10 4 22
ring DI 25 DCI 15 lmc 3 Phres 10
bracialet DI 23 DCI 15 HCI 11 str 7
The total is:
70 69 70 70 75 (remember i use magic reflect)
DCI/HCI 50 /46
DI 48% (sometimes i switch Void with Primer..)
STat (255 cap)
132 str (HP 131)
140 dext (stamina 164)
Int 30 (mana 60)
Its with VE: you cannot go in wraith form, because it isnt a leech, but a mana drain: as soon as the Paroxy finishes his mana, you die ^^
With my suit you can kill him easily, just less than 20mins. But the strenght of my template is that is OK in every situation..
I can go in each ML dungeon without big problem, expecially i can collect keys easily.
About Bosses, Melisande is a very difficult challange, but i carry on me enchanted apple for Blood Oath (it kills me) and I use hit area weapon for revenant plus moment/whirlwind..
DH is doable with no problems..
You can fight Interred, but its a hugh waste of durability, even if i manage to do it..
For Travesty you have to stack you necro points in the soulstone, otherwise be ready not to finish her..
I dont do shimmering, key collectings is too annoying..
Labirinth/Lurg's place can be done easy, no problem at all..
Doom its a challange, due to no magic reisist.. but you can even solo DF; just keep attention to Blood Oath, Revenant, and keep with you magic boxes
Who is we? Don't you mean you!?
Ultima is now a video game...
People play for all different kinds of reasons. What I don't want is somone's playstyle shoved down my throat which is what your advocating. If I go group/guild to tacke peerless I want it to be because that's what I wanted to do and not because there is no way to experience that part of the game otherwise.
Go stick your movement you know where I want nothing to do with it. I pay my monthy fee just like everyone else don't be telling me what I should or should not be acceptable with my playstyle. It's whiners like yourself that have been around since 97' which various Dev Teams have listened to that have caused a large exodus from the longest running MMORPG in history.
I have no problem with the Dev Team adding Demi-Godlike creatures into the game requiring groups of 16+ people to take down but right now leave the Peerless as it is.
For one you can learn from other people's trials and errors if they're willing to impart what they've learned much like some of the posters are doing in this thread. Now that doesn't mean I want to go spend an hour doing peerless with 5 of them and walk out with 1 lousy piece of muculent.
But I know as much as I try to get people of your mentality to see another point of view I'm pretty much wasting my time so I will not respond further about imposing playstyles anymore in this thread.
I'm still struggling to find the right template so I'm not holding myself out to be an expert just yet
But I do find it interesting that 2 of the above posted template don't have ANY Parry whatsoever.
I'm went again last night against the corrupted Unicorn and I did fine until my Dragon Barding gave way then I got a few bad rolls and found myself with a mouthful of dirt. I had him down to probably 1/10 when I came back to life I checked my necrobag and realized I was out of pig iron. I had to tail it out without any rewards. If I had been doing just a little more damage throughout the course of the fight I think I would have been fine. I just need to readjust my template.
This was with 80 Anatomy and 100 Tactics. I followed a template Athlon had posted a few weeks ago that is just not for me. The 80 Spirit Speak he suggested is just wasted points in my opinion.
I'm going to go back with 120 Anatomy and 120 tactics and hopefully that will give me enough damage boost to finish the job in a timely fashion.
Then I'll come back to stratics claiming to be an expert
The most important thing for soloing a peerless is having the right weapon. It's a lot harder with a bad weapon.
I'm stubborn so I'm trying to do the Dreadhorn with a soulseeker. I'm like Duka I love that weapon and it's special move. I've seen others doing it...why not me?
I also seen someone do it with Wind's Edge rather quickly.
What type of weapon +Mods do you suggest for Dreadhorn?
In a template without parry and a shield, a very good weapon is a diamond mace
With high stamina, and a mace from gold runic (not too difficult to find) like
HLD/ HLA (the second, with mace and shield, its terribly powerful)
you can do very well..
Howere, with soulseeker i can kill him, but i must onestly say that the damage is never so high in comparison to those who use ornate ^^
Who is we? How about the oodles of people complaining about it?
You can spin it to seem like I'm the only one with my position because I so bluntly told you the truth of the situation but it changes nothing.
You're playing a massively multiplayer videogame. You are not playing Madrid's personal fantasy land of solo-ness.
I don't want is your playstyle shoved down my throat. Which is currently the case.
Like I said, you don't need people so play a game without them.
Yeah, you are absolutely right. Since 97, I have watched people like you and your little cry-baby brethren ruin the biggest assets this game had going for it.
You have instanced dungeons (your own private dungeon)
You have trammel - no one can stop you from doing what you want
You have looting rights - no one can touch your corpse
You have a template that can solo all of the top bosses in this game
So explain exactly to me, how you've come to that brilliant conclusion of yours that its people like me who lead this game in this direction?
I never said loot wasn't broken and that it should be worth-while for fighting the bosses of this game that those who fight them walk away with decent loot.
What I said is that no one should be able to solo what is supposed to be considered the toughest monsters in this game.
Oh, so you mean it's everyone else that has to see your point of view... never mind you trying to see another point of view.
I know people of your mentality are the reason why UO has no more community, no more people depending on eachother, but this solo-personal fantasy land that you don't need nobody to play in.
Well, if you haven't noticed... when your goal is to play alone... YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE TO PLAY WITH!
I have to say.....Your template and setup have me drooling a bit.