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[Discussion] some sort of a museum thread

Discussion in 'UO Rares Collector' started by Xtashin, Jan 24, 2010.

  1. Xtashin

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    i was wondering if anyone else misses the old museum thread? i was wondering if anything is in the works for bringing something like that back maybe not something in such detail. but maybe at least something that tells the shard/location of different museums there is still
     
  2. Manticore

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    It has always been a great idea but its a full time job to do it right. But I am all for it if somone wants to take up on that task. *misses Sarsmi right about now* :(
     
  3. DevilsOwn

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    the old thread was a *huge* task and it was fun to just look at the pics, even if the museum no longer existed

    Xtashin is right, we could at least get a little bit of info up for everyone..... a pic of the place and it's location so that if someone wanted to visit they'd know how to find it.. but I think the thread would need watching and any posts that are not of that type removed and keep it only for information
     
  4. The Scandinavian

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    Hi there,

    I also miss the old museum thread.
    But its just to much work for one person.

    If we really want it I suggest that one rare collector per shard gather info needed on their home shard.Mybe we don't get all shards this way but some of the biggest at least.


    Regards
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  5. Laina

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    I miss it as well...would it be too chaotic if each of us was responsible for submitting pics of our own museum?
     
  6. DVI

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    It would take me a bit of time as my schedule is a bit chaotic of late, but if people submit their museums to me via pm i would be happy to start putting something together. I'll need the following info: icq number , stratics name, shard, facet, coordinates, house owners name.
     
  7. DVI

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    Oh and could anyone confirm the old museum reqs? I believe it was 15 items between seer, event rare, rubble, holiday rares, rare statues and server births.
     
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  9. DVI

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    Thanks Laina! nice to see youre still around!
     
  10. Manticore

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    not all rubble will be included, only the rare rubbles. And not all holiday items, only singing balls, white angel statues and surfers, phenoix armor pieces, and item bless deed.
     
  11. DVI

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    yah i assumed that would be the case, but was posting from my phone and didnt want to type it all out heh
     
  12. Riply

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    Umm if you are including white angels and surfers, then the rarest name white statues should be in that same category since well umm thier extremly rare too. :popcorn:
     
  13. DevilsOwn

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    okay guys, this is not meant to derail this thread at all, but I would like clarification on something.......

    the specs for a museum are needed, and if I recall correctly there were also guidelines set up for this forum some time ago.... recently there have been many posts about items that I, personally, would not consider a rare item in that they are currently spawning and will continue to spawn.... while they are difficult to get they're not a 'one of a kind' or a limited number event item, so I'm wondering when the definition of the rares forums changed

    DVI, about your offer..... will you be taking the pics and recording the information or would you like submissions from those interested in participating?

     
  14. DVI

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    i'll be taking the pics so that i can play with them and get it to work, just basic info is needed.

    also, i completely agree with you devils!
     
  15. Laina

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    As far as I understand too, if the item is spawning it is not considered a rare. Or if there are 1000s of the item like the rubble ferns, I wouldn't consider those rare. I don't consider the environmental spawn stuff rare either although others do.

    I have seen quite a few posts moved on spawning items but I guess everything doesn't get caught all the time.
     
  16. Manticore

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    Here are the rules I believe if we do it this time around. When the original musuem thread Sarsmi and I started (about 3-4 years ago) we set a minimum quantity of 25 items. Since then and especially with the recent season 7 of items, the EMs have graciously released hundreds them for us to collect. I think the idea behind all of this originally was not only to showcase collector's accomplishments but also set a standard or "challenge" for others to strive to. I believe the minimum should be raised to 35 items now. We also need a team of collectors who can validate the claim before DVI posts them. I was soloing that in the past, i.e. I verify and Sarsmi puts it up. That was time consuming and hard to meet up at times. But now I think there are enough collectors who know how to easily grade this. I propose these names to the list of Verifiers but if I forget to list you please forgive me. I choose them because they are on here frequently are readily give out their icqs so easily accessable.

    1. Manticore
    2. Lania
    3. Linemen
    4. Blueturtle
    5. Tomas Bryce
    6. Athleas
    7. Lykor
    8. DVI

    Furthermore, I went ahead and assigned rare values on the stag items and some rubble items. I think only those labeled as UR = Ultra Rare and VR = Very Rare should be included because those were pretty much shard specific and their quantity iam 99% sure are not over 75.

    But what qualifies you ask? Well here is what I think should qualify:

    1. Seer Items
    2. Server Births
    3. EM created items
    4. Items forgot to lock down by GMs during events that are not normal
    5. VR & UR Stag Items
    6. UR Rubbles
    7. Clean Up Britannia Items (Phenoix armor pieces, Singing Balls, & IBD)
    8. Xmas Gifts - 3rd Tier White Statues, White Angels and Surfers
    9. Speckled Easter Eggs - According to Messanna, only 10 were given to each EM per US, European, and Oceana shards. So thats not a whole lot considering most have uniquie names.
     
  17. DevilsOwn

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    that list (both of them) looks right to me and thank you for clearly defining things

    I can't think, offhand, of anything that needs to be added to the list of qualifiers, 'cept maybe the G'Thunk and G'Splat statues? do they come in white?


    ~edit~ ohhhhh, and also, will this also be the standard for these forums?
     
  18. Manticore

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    Yes, G Thunk and Splat along with Lathari, and that forth one all comes in white.
     
  19. woody_cats

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    Well I just looked over the rubble list and am totally put off. I fell that part of collecting is also gathering sets. So to me with rubble you are completely ignoring it.
    A completed large display case should count. Completed large benches. Picnic table with picnic benches maybe even the tables that you had to piece together, the beds if have the two or 4 pieces the ship if have 4 pieces. the rift pillars and a few others. What about the complete set of snow globes .
    To me my fun is collecting. Also it is the rares collector responsibility to try to keep the history of uo and magencia was a big part. Also easter eggs dont count some should . even if its like 20 different titled eggs count as one.

    stag items have no problem with rare vr and ur and only vr and ur count.
     
  20. BigEv

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    Bring It Back! :thumbup:
     
  21. Manticore

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    I am not sure I totally agree here. Because people can just put together a full set of level 1 xmas statues and I would definetly consider that not a rare. Putting 2 piece benches or 4 piece beds together is fun in all but they are not rare. Not when on Baja alone 100+ pieces spawned. I would consider putting together the 9 piece blood tile set though. I would also consider 5piece sand stone stairs set with block, 4 piece corner standstone stairs set,
     
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    I've updated the rubble list to include sets. Mind you a completed set counts only as 1 item.
     
  23. woody_cats

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    personnally the display cases make the look for me. my 4 piece boat is one of my favorite set ups. Hehe at least could not be a rubble museum like i was doing to have. I personnelly had 6 months ago planned to have 35 museum lvl pieces at all my houses not any more. And yes the bloods could have been an add. You by eliminating alot of people who may be trying to grow there collect and might have started with a rubble table or display case and want a rare to add to it .
     
  24. Manticore

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    I've updated the rubble list. After some careful thinking the updated rubble set list should be more than adequate to address your concerns.
     
  25. woody_cats

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    sorry for my behavior and yes i am now content with the rubble you set it up more than fair now and a great way to grow your museum . It was not that i do not have event items server rares extra but always valued the time i spent collecting and to me we were only agrueing on what should be in a museum of uo items and i spent a good year on the magenta stuff and collecting good pieces.
     
  26. Riply

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    Thier does need to be some kind of way of reducing the amount of work involved to see if players museums would qualify to be looked at before they went to check it out.

    I believe that all the players interested in collecting rares in one form or another enjoy seeing what other players collect and how they display them.

    I think its a great idea to have this again, alot of the old museums are gone now and replaced by new ones. Along with alot of new rares that have been added to the game since the last time this was done.

    As a side note I hope that some discretion is used so that some houses might be added if they are in some way really out of the ordinary as far as the types of rares they carry instead of reaching lets say 35.

    Also if a player has thier items spread over two houses that this should still be considered one collection of rares by that collector.
     
  27. DVI

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    Just to ward off any concern over the museum standards ill be including a section for new collectors featuring up and coming museums to give them their fair due.
     
  28. Manticore

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    I think if DVI is willing to take on this daunting task of making this a very nice and much needed post along with pictures etc..., we should all donate something for his efforts. I am willing to donate to him a rare.
     
  29. Athelas

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    Well it is an honor just to be nominated, thankyou Manticore.

    I spend entirely too much time in museums as it is so it will be nice to actually have a purpose beyond my own.



    Athelas [Treasure Trove] Mall, Atlantic
     
  30. lineman

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    I will donate something as well. Look forward to seeing all the new museums out there
     
  31. DVI

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    As of yet I have had only a single submission, other than that I personally know the locations of several museums on Atl, LS, and of course Manti's.
     
  32. lineman

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    tried to send info but ya mailbox full Also just noticed were ya from. )) Nice to see another MA native.
     
  33. DVI

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    just cleared the box out, so for the one person who submitted already please resubmit, and my apologies for the annoyance.

    damn right it is, b-towns where its at.
     
  34. Manticore

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    ya for starters:

    Blue Turtles on Origin
    Lania's on Baja
    Devil's Own on Legends
    Raddagast on Napa Valley
    Lykor's on Catskils
    Linemens you'll want to wait because it will move again
    Jinx's on Baja
    Suzzy's at Treasure Trove
    Luna Outfitters on LS
    Lord Courages on Baja
    Gormach's on LS
    Peil's on Asuka
    Orc's on GL
    Of The Ring on GL
    Baron's on Pacific
    Demonous on Chesypeak
    Promethia's on Chesypeak
    Manticores on Baja
    Dimitri's on Sonoma
    Lady Destiny's on Napa
    Riply Europa
    MOP Guild, Catskils
     
  35. lineman

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    ya lol thats true, ill be moving back to Baja after Pac event. Ill send ya info when im back on Baja. No sence doing it twice
     
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    Peil's is on Asuka. It is a bit of a run, but it is DEFINITELY worth visiting! I love going over there.....
     
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    I've sort of sat back and let this play out to see how things would unfold.

    I love this idea. Two months ago, I even registered a website to do this myself but was detained by my restaurant starting a construction phase and simply didn't have the time.

    DVI, if you'd like to do this, I'll donate the web name that I've secured and give you full access to it. This way, we can link from Stratics Rares Forum, but it's not bogged down by ads or rampant postings.

    Let me know!
     
  38. Riply

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    Hi you can add me to the list mostly server ups plus a few xmas statues;)
     
  39. shalanria

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    LOL a FEW Xmas statues, that is an understatement :lie: ;)
     
  40. Peil

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    I'm surprised for mine to be nominated although my house's scale is so smaller than other great museums. Anyway, I'm glad indeed, thank you :)
     
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    think its a great idea gotta get my ass in gear and finish my second museum
     
  42. Manticore

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    All, since this post was started I've had many requests on what it should go on the list as a qualifier. After some carefull consideration and self reasoning I agree with some of the comments. Therefore, I've expanded the requirements below. This was never meant to be exclusive but rather more inclusive. I understand all your hard work in trying to put together a great collection.

    This is not an easy equation I tell you but to help you understand some of that I've listed what I had to consider in order to qualify:

    1. Quantity - I compare against the highest # drop from the EM item list (Broken Crystals). Greater than than that usually doesn't qualify, but if the other 2 factors are there, then having multiples of this category, i.e. sets or just sheer quantity will result in the qualification.

    2. Desirability - Is this one person's quest for self justification or is there an actual demand among the populous.

    3. GP Worth - I try to compare the category of items to the lowest value of the EM event items to serve as baseline.

    And to qualify, the item must have at least 2 of the 3 factors above to qulaify. I think after this, most of you would agree to this method. So here it is folks, this list of qulaifiers:



    1. Seer Items
    2. Server Births
    3. EM created items
    4. Items forgot to lock down by GMs during events that are not normal
    5. VR & UR Stag Items
    6. UR Rubbles + Sets
    7. Clean Up Britannia Items (Phenoix armor pieces, Singing Balls, & IBD)
    8. Xmas Gifts - 3rd Tier White Statues, White Angels and Surfers
    9. Xmas Gifts - 3rd Tier Colored Busts and Lady in prayer (Every 5 equals 1 count)
    10. Xmas Gifts - Angels and Surfers (Every 3 equals 1 count)
    11. Speckled Easter Eggs - According to Messanna, only 10 were given to each EM per US, European, and Oceana shards. (Each 1 count as 1)
    12. 2009 Easter Eggs - Every 10 count as 1 count. I realized certain shards had very unique inscriptions and low drops.
    13. 2008 Neon Xmas Boxes (Every 5 equals 1 count)
    14. 2009 Angel Xmas Boxes (Every 5 equals 1 count)
    15. Sewn clothing with double "Blessed" tags (Every 3 pieces equals 1 count) These were the first of its series back in 1997-99. Currently, each piece in circulation when sold brings 15-50 mil.

    I hope this gives everyone an opportunty for continuing their collections and I can't wait to see them on Lykor's website.

    P.S. These requirements will be placed on Lykor's webpage so there will be no confusion as to what qualifies *I hope he puts it up there haha*

    Manticore
     
  43. The Scandinavian

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    Well done Manticore,

    your stamina for this things seems to be endless.
    :thumbup:



    But where are all the crazy smith items??
    :eyes:


    J/K


    Regards
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    i think thats great, good job cant wait to see it all come together now.
     
  45. DevilsOwn

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    *locks doors until the place is fit for company*



    :blushing:;)
     
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    Sounds Good.
     
  47. lineman

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    I think the guidelines you have set up are great. And I would also like to say thanks for all the work you do on this forum. The work that goes into listing rares from every shard event as accurate as you do is awesome. And I see from some posts it is a thankless job, that sometimes falls under some scrutiny whether or not you got a item count exact. Well if it wasn't for you we wouldn't have a clue on how to base a value on a item. Keep up the great work Manticore, you are a true Uo rare pioneer who a lot of us appreciate immensely.
     
  48. Laina

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    LOL - you too?