Since the treasure map upgrade, prime earner has been my treasurehunter. I pretty much the procedure down. I gather up a bunch of Expert and Adeptly maps, recall into the general area, and dig it up. I then cast EVs to mop up the baddies. My Thunter has 85 magery. Enough to cast EV but more often than not he fails. I have some buff items that raise it to 95 but I still fail (with scrolls yet) every once in a while. My first question is, what Magery do you need for the EVs to appear every time? I always assumed if you have 10 over the required Magery skill, you'd succeed pretty much every time, but that doesn't seem to be the case. At any rate, the EVs are great. With Expertly, one will wipe out the spawn without a problem. At Adeptly, two will usually settle them up, but not if they got the big uglies. The big uglies. Ogre Lords. They are a ***** to kill, and whats more, they dish out insane damage. I had a Ogre Slayer fire dagger made up with Imbuing, but I still can't take one down without running and gulping healing potions every few seconds. Even with all 70s resist, they hit and I'm down to 2/3 a bar. And they hit often. Usually the only fast way I can take them down is to equip my dagger and have two EVs pound em from the back. Does anyone have any good strategies dealing with Ogre Lords? Again I can take them down but with difficulty, and that's with a slayer weapon with their highest weakness. It just seems crazy that the next hardest monster in the spawn group (dread spider) I can take down in like 5 seconds without getting hit, yet if more than one OL appears, I know I'm in for a tough time.