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sooo, are we taking bets on when GL is gonna crash tonight?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Poo, Dec 26, 2012.

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  1. Poo

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    sitting at this ridiculous loaded house on GL that is in IDOC with.... hell everyone in game i think is here.... so i wonder when GL is gonna crash due to the load?
     
  2. Salivern_Diago

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    Not for a few days yet.. it aint gonna fall today.
     
  3. Poo

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    a lot of people seem to think it will.
    its already done 1 cycle to IDOC then went OSI.
    now its on its 2nd IDOC cycle, which from what some people say is where the venders that blocked the first one will be eaten.
    which may very well be true since the venders all disappeared here a hour ago.

    i dont think ive seen this many people in game..... for years!
     
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    I took a walk through earlier just to see all the interesting items that player had collected and was indeed impressed, however tram IDOCs are not my idea of fun. Most of the time IDOCs in general are rarely worth the waiting for this player. I always find myself asking, "Do I really need all this extra stuff?", the answer is almost always no.

    Regardless I wish all participating the best of luck and hopefully the time you spent is rewarded in some tangible way. From this pvper to all you collector's, a little extra luck as well.

    Edit: At this rate, with its now high population, put me down for 5 imaginary internet monopoly dollars on it crashing. :p
     
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    I'm betting it isn't going to crash :)
     
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    put me down for 1 sec after the house falls :pirate:
     
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    You might crash, but I doubt the whole shard will.
     
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    I bet Flutter's soul and some pocket lint it happens in tonight.
     
  9. Shakkara

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    House: I got shiny stuff!
    Crowd: Oooh!
    House: Who would like some stuff?
    Crowd: Meeee!
    House: Better stay up all night to get it then!
    Crowd: Hurray!
    House: So you thought you'd get my stuff? Hell no! Trololololol!

    [​IMG]
     
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    To some degree it may depend (in part) on how many people are also there trying to "place" in that spot.
     
  11. Flutter

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    Great. You lost my soul. Thanks a lot.
     
  12. Petra Fyde

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    I would be very surprised if it dropped before Jan 2nd
     
  13. SlobberKnocker

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    what makes you say that petra?

    my guildie watched that house for days....
     
  14. Shakkara

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    I think half the game's active population did.
     
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    i just went there at server up. the house is open to the public but is inaccessable. you cannot even get on the steps. its sorta funny cause there is left over tamed horses and hordeminions roaming around inside. structure is slightly worn again. someone is suggesting the reason this was done was to combat against scriptors but i dont know if thats true.
     
  16. Shakkara

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    Well with the house inaccessible and the house's contents invisible, it is more difficult for scripters to spam "Pick up this item" over and over until the house falls. But not sure if any GM made it this way intentionally. Was pretty sad though to see so many players out and about, only to have them all disappointed.
     
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    ive been to many hosues owned by OSI out in the wildernesss, most ive seen that are open to public do go into mode that is open but is still private that are owned by osi and is in demo pending.
     
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    For the first states of decay the steps are blocked for Demolition pending houses, later they become passable again.
     
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    Thank the gods I went to bed then when I did..... round 4 now I think!
     
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    Round 4! You certainly are a committed IDOCer.

    It would also appear I lost the bet, so anyone that bet correctly can collect the 5 imaginary internet monopoly dollars from me. At least I didn't bet any souls... or pocket lint. (Pocket lint keeps your pockets from getting lonely and can be used to start an impromptu fire if needed! Very valuable stuff.) :D
     
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  21. Poo

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    but its a 2nd place in the lint family.
    belly button lint will always be the king of the Lint Kingdom.
     
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    Glad I stayed on ATL during this fiasco!
     
  23. Lord X

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    I certainly did crash a few times during it, as well as the other I was there with.
     
  24. Petra Fyde

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    I'm not an idocer, but my logic tells me.
    If the vendors are gone and it still hasn't fallen then something else is keeping it up
    Which quite possibly means it needs to be manually removed - along with whatever that something is.
    I have no proof, no knowledge, just a nasty suspicion, that some of those uber rares that folk have their eyes on may not be legit and will go 'poof' along with the house - causing much gnashing of teeth, when the team get back from the Christmas break.
     
  25. Aibal

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    Down and gone. Finally. I missed it, but RL does that some times. Hope some worthy people got some goodies.e
     
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    Just logged on at the Idoc and it's poof! Another house has already been placed . Like Petra I'm not an idocer, have never even seen one fall, so wasn't really staking it out just popped on once in awhile out of curiosity. So I'm not sure what happened ,did it collapse and everyone shared in the rares, or as Petra thought was it just removed? If anyone was there I'd be curious to know. Thanks
     
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    I checked it a few hours ago and it was 'fairly worn'

    So how did we go from fairly, to greatly, to idoc to collapse in a few hours?
     
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    Reclaim?

    <------Stupid office, I'd rather be Picus at home...lame.
     
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    Olcher, you said "reclaim" not claim. Was this your house? Or did you mean it as in recycle. Just wondering because if it was yours why didn't you save it? As I said, don't know much (anything) about idoc's.
     
  30. Merus

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    From what I understand (wasn't there because some people still work for a living) a new house was placed within seconds of the collapse. The only way I know of that it happens that way is the house was dropped manually by a GM or DEV. IMO I think it is complete BS to do it that way, particularly in the middle of the day. I know not everyone works the same schedules, but every shard has a prime time for a reason... That is when most people have the ability to play. The decay timer on the house sign is there to let those who are watching have an idea when it will collapse. If you ask me a house should never collapse or be dropped without the house sign going through the decay cycle completely... no matter how many times it has to cycle through.

    Whether you believe it or not, this house and others like it get dropped to give the advantage to certain people who are close to someone on the inside.
     
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    House was fairly worn and then went poof, new house went up almost instantly. Stuff was taken left and right by hidden people (scripters).

    Only way for this to happen is GMs dropping the house manually. I think GM logs need to be reviewed, as this smells like corrupt GMs favoring their goldseller and scripter friends.
     
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    If an owned by OSI house, which was in demolition pending state is dropping, the spot is not blocked for placement, since the timer goes from the end of the first IDOC stage.
    Just another unfixed or unconsidered bug in the system ...
     
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    This is NOT true. I have been to plenty of IDOCs that drop after going OSI owned/Demo Pending and the placement timer is still in effect.

    This house was changed from Demo Pending to just owned by OSI several days ago. The only way a change like this occurs is for a GM or Dev member to actually intervene with the house ownership. Subesquent to that, the only way for the house to fall for a Dev or GM to come and drop the house manually. This was explained ingame at a previous IDOC by Mesanna herself ( I am assuming she actually understood what she was talking about)

    When this happens the game does not see an actually decay... it is treated no differently than if you or I drop our house with all the contents inside. This makes the plot immediantly available for placement.
     
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    I heard that Mesanna was the one that dropped the GL house. I heard that from several different people.
     
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    I would say that is by far the most likely scenario... but it is a slap in the face to all those who participate in IDOCs to have a house interfered with and manually dropped before the decay cycle indicates such. By all rights the house should have fallen sometime tomorrow early afternoon when the vendors in the house sign were moved into the moving crate.
     
  36. claudia-fjp

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    Well this is what happens when people who don't IDOC regularly try to do one just because people spam it on every server and the forums. They were just wasting your time. Then people get all up in arms because they think it's not working like it should. The alternative decay cycle for houses with rented out vendors has been around a long time and most people are just ignorant of it.


    Yes, decay status means nothing. It can fall at any stage, it goes by the vendor timers not house decay status. No, just because the vendors are gone it doesn't mean it will fall shortly. The vendor renters still have days before their reclaim timer go off in the sign. Vendors owned by the house owner don't have anything to do with OBO status that's why some houses with vendor just drop. No there is no way to tell a rented out one and an owner owned one.

    As for the placement issue I'm with Olahorand on this one, especially since you think the decay cycle has anything to do with when the OBO houses fall. I generally don't camp them since it's a waste of time but the few OBO houses I have seen or heard about had no placement timer. People frequently complain there was no timer and if a house turns OBO at idoc you can try a test place and guess what? The area is reserved like it had fallen which leads me to believe is the reason when it does actually drop it won't have a placement delay timer.
     
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    There were no vendors. Houses with rares are often held by "OSI" to go through and check and remove dupes etc. Which are then manually dropped.

    Edited to add: You use to be able to page a GM to drop these if you got lucky to get the right GM. Most would give you the canned response.
     
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    So the Yellow People named after the armor sets they were wearing must have just been off duty EM's? Posts like yours are why people get so confused. :/
     
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    I do not recall seeing those there but what I posted before is still true. I'm not sure what your point is.
     
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    i think it is bogus that it goes half through a third cycle, and then crashes when i left today it said slightly worn. And it fell? i know it was OSI, but cmon.
     
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    If that s true it is complete BS that she would do that. I really hope it is not the case. What a way to screw the people who actually pay attention to idocs and have a idea when it was supposed to fall. Unless of course you fall into the inner circle.
     
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    It really is BS that it did not go full cycle i logged in this am and it was fairly. From last night to today the same people were logged in standing in that house. Someone knew something. I dont see Mesanna dropping it just cause...WTEVA
     
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    Complete BS !! So pissed that a Game EM or GM would bend the rules like this Logged in saw a crowed checked the sign still fairly worn. wen to store for not even a hour came home was gone with a new house in the spot . I want who ever did this fired or removed from staff.

    I think if enough people email and call this person will loss there job!!! or Spot on UO

    Ends Rant

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    thats why ive said there should be a timer so fair shot to all,a count down timer,all the rules are twisted and not explained to everyone,it says on uoguide that it takes 9 days after the vendors go to the sign,it hasnt been 9 days,someones buddy got that loot...
     
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    merry x-mas(revert) happy newyears(pal poked)
     
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    My point is you are putting false info based on faulty observation and conjecture out there confusing people.
     
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    Dev do have access to the game works via home.... I have no doubt Mesanna made it poof to stop the load on the servers.....
     
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    If you were waiting on it to fall in normal idoc stages I suppose you havent been to many OSI houses. This one fell like any other OSI idoc. Good news is that some items decayed on corpses bc harbringers killed people!!!
     
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    Mesanna is the ONLY person that can drop OSI houses, she told me via PM a while back, and YES you are free to place straight away as there is no timer (and abuse the game mechanics via 3rd party sites)
    if it was loaded with rares I look forward to seeing a certain cheat listing them all on the rares collector section

    lol welcome to the waste of time thst is uo osi idocs.....
     
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    There are NO rules when it comes to OSI Mesanna drops when she is ready with these
     
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