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Spamming is now bannable

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Lost-Soul, May 25, 2010.

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  1. Lost-Soul

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    As the title says spamming is now bannable under...

    Rules of Conduct: 24) You will not do anything else that interferes with the ability of other Ultima Online users to enjoy playing the game in accordance with its rules, or that increases the expense or difficulty of Electronic Arts in maintaining the Ultima Online Service for the enjoyment of all its users.

    Feel free to page away on your fellow sosarian.
     
  2. Viper09

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    Someone got banned for spamming? Through global chat or not?
     
  3. Lost-Soul

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    Nope not even in global chat.
     
  4. Lost-Soul

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    While this rule is broad, it is aimed at preventing those whose sole intention is to cause problems within the game. The Rules of Conduct have been set so that players may co-exist and enjoy their game experiences in the same virtual world, and actions that are aimed at destroying that experience are strictly enforced.
     
  5. Viper09

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    Well I assume it was you who was banned then? hehe

    But surely there must be another reason than just spamming. Unless the banned person was litterally spamming over and over and over without stopping. In which case I understand some kind of action to be taken.
     
  6. Lost-Soul

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    Nope
     
  7. Lost-Soul

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    Log of incident:
    21755515: 19:34:12 WOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo chat
    21755515: 19:34:13 WOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo chat
    21755515: 19:34:21 WOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo chat
    21755515: 19:34:22 WOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo chat
    21755515: 19:34:23 WOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo chat
     
  8. Viper09

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    So if it wasn't you who got the action, how are you even certain they got banned?
     
  9. Lost-Soul

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    Ever hear of ignore option?
     
  10. Viper09

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    Of course. I didn't say they should be banned, just that I could understand action being taken. But again, if it wasn't you who was banned, how are you certain they actually got banned?
     
  11. Lost-Soul

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    It was me, was refering to no other reason than spam.
     
  12. Viper09

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    Ahh, ok. One word response to two questions isn't exactly clear it seems :p

    But that sucks then. Guess we shouldn't spam the same thing continually every half-second around people who might find it annoying despite the ignore feature. Especially in chat as people seem to have problems ignoring.
     
  13. quig

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    This is taken out of context...this moron was spamming over Mesanna during an EM event, and didnt stop after being asked several times.
     
  14. RaDian FlGith

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    Not to put too fine a point on it, dependant upon situation, spamming has ALWAYS been bannable.
     
  15. Lost-Soul

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    Better not try selling anything at the bank.
     
  16. Viper09

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    Well then that explains it all. In this instance it would definitely be justifiable.
     
  17. Lost-Soul

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    That wasn't me. I was at the vet with my dog. She had to get stiches taken out.
     
  18. Lady Michelle

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    Not a very good idea to throw spam all over a GM when asked not to.
    2 :thumbup1: :thumbup1: to GM Mesanna for taking the time to ban the spammer.
     
  19. LordDrago

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    Ah, not made clear by the OP. Griefing an event was then the actual reason for the ban, not necessarily the spamming. Makes more sense then.

    Although I understand the OP was not using his account at the time, letting someone else use your account opens you up to consequences that you may not be able to control. One of the reasons that I do not let anyone have access to my account (among several other obvious reasons). Essentially the OP trusted someone with his/her account that violated that trust.
     
  20. Flutter

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    Good. Spamming is annoying.
     
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    Actually...I think ironic poster is being ironic.
     
  22. Lost-Soul

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    So is watching Mesanna having to wait in que for GM after paging.
     
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    *waves* don't let the door hit ya on the way out...
     
  24. Lost-Soul

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    Opens door back open long enough to sell my ****.
     
  25. Martyna Zmuir

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    If Mesanna banned some loser for spamming and disrupting an EM event, more power to her. :thumbup1:
     
  26. Viper09

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    Not sure why you'd quit over something like this. You claim it was someone else playing on your account, but what did you except would happen spamming during an event? Seriously. Purposefully trying to screw-up the fun for people? Purposefully trying to mess with the EM?

    Regardless of whatever reason there was for spamming during an event you didn't seriously expect to be tolerated and not expect to get off clean. If you did...well...surprise! Many players have already been complaining of people trolling events. Glad to see they are responding!

    Of course, easy solution. Don't let that person play the account anymore.
     
  27. Flutter

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    :heart:
     
  28. popps

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    And who sets what the terms that define spamming in Ultima Online are ?

    Are they known to players ?

    What may be annoying to some may not be to others.

    Unless text spamming is WELL defined and outlined firmly within specific guidelines I do not think it is possible to ban for spamming since this would lead to inequality of treatment of players.

    Some players may be banned for yelling 4-5 times when selling something or looking for someone in game and some others only after doing it 30+ times.

    Since GameMasters are individuals, unless the guidelines to what is spamming and what is not are WELL and FIRMLY set, a whole lot of injustice can come in the treatment of players, unequally.

    Besides, not only before banning anyone the spamming boundaries should be clearly set, but they should be well told to all players so that they might not, inadvertedly, spam according to the set limits when they think they are not.

    Not to mention the fact that personally, trash talking annoys me FAR MORE than spamming.

    If we are talking about actions which "interferes with the ability of other Ultima Online users to enjoy playing the game" well, trash talking does it to me.

    I find it improper and unnecessary and yet, I often have to hear players talking a language which I do not like nor approve.

    Besides, while it is one of the easiest things to do to put spamming players onto IGNORE and so no longer hear them, this is more difficult with trash talking because it can come by a multitude of players at fights, at banks, all over.

    So, personally, my opinion is that trash talking should be way first dealt with before spamming is.....
     
  29. It Lives

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    I have yet been to any event where there was not at least one over hyper tard spamming something in moron..

    It nice to see some action being taken.
     
  30. I feel dumber after reading this post :gee:
     
  31. LordDrago

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    Well, Popps, seeing as the OP's account was asked to stop spamming at the event, several times, by Mesanna, I do not believe there should be any doubt that their actions could be actionable.

    It was their own failure to recognize the effects and consequences of their actions which resulted in the ban.
     
  32. LordDrago

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    A classic :)

    Principal: Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
    Billy Madison: Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
     
  33. I LOL'd so hard :lol:
     
  34. Yalp

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    Awww... poor thing! That nasty Mesanna is such a bully! How dare she interfere with your enjoyment of UO (or whoever was playing your account). You pay your monthly fees, just like everyone else. You have every right in the world to stand in the middle of West Brit, say, where there just so happens to be 50 or so of your fellow players there. You have every right to combine letters from a QWERTY keyboard in any combination and hit the enter button. If that's what makes you happy when you log into this game then who is EA to tell you that the way you play this game is wrong! The injustice!

    By all means the most right and proper action is to get rid of your stuff and call your credit card company to stop those automatic withdraws every month!

    No wait.. know what's ever better and will totally show those meanies at EA? Come to the stratics and post a thread about being so unfairly treated! That will show them!



    Any other schmucks out there..... listen up.. Not only should your butt have been booted and but good, but a public announcement should have been made. I hope to see a public effigy of your toon hanging in the town square in the near future.

    Hearty thumbs up to Mesanna and crew for their actions. Hope there are more to come!
     
  35. Beer_Cayse

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    er, isn't it in the RoC that you are responsible for your account? If so, then allowing anyone to use the account still makes you (the account holder) responsible for their actions.

    <does some research> Yup ... bottom of the RoC, plain as day.
    RoC linky

    Ohhh! Terms of Service section 3(a):
     
  36. Beer_Cayse

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    See my response above to Lord Drago ... ROC and TOS both state account holder is responsible for actions of those who use the account. Now, when a person is asked more than once to cease and desist actions that are disturbing an event, and they fail to do so, it can be considered a type of harassment (RoC violation).

    However, any actions are at the discretion of EA staff ... in this case Mesanna. And she booted his butt to the curb - the right thing to do. So it wasn't the account holder - they are still responsible for whatever little Johnny or Mary do on their account behind their back.
     
  37. ingsmsico

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    now they are closing accounts because people spam woooo 4 times?

    this CS team needs to get a grip on reality.
     
  38. Just Do It

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    Maybe thats why people are quitting UO in bunches. Personally i think its about time for some new devs.

    Because its painfully obvious they dont care about their customers especially on Siege Perilous.
     
  39. Personally, I think it's time people take responsibility for their actions and accept the consequences when they do something they agreed NOT to do.

    Toughen up, Buttercup.
     
  40. ingsmsico

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    what is this child rearing 101?

    can you lighten up a little please?

    the guy spammed wooooo. who gives a crap. people spamming in the global chat should just be booted from the global chat for 10 minutes. not banned from the game.
     
  41. Assia Penryn

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    I agree. I'm actually glad they banned someone for doing that. Its annoying as hell.
     
  42. DevilsOwn

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    particularly annoying during an event when trying to follow instructions/storyline, tho I also never banksit Luna just for this reason..... the crowd doesn't change for half an hour, but every 73 seconds that guy in the corner reminds you that he's got stuff for sale, check his profile
     
  43. Deb

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    First off, I was at the event. And if it was the person who I think got banned it
    was for much more than just spamming. The foul language and sexual comments
    that were thrown at Mesanna would have been cause enough. It was
    pretty disgusting. And it was definitely just cause for banning.
    I am pretty thick skinned but that was unreal what we witnessed.
     
  44. ingsmsico

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    you want to ban people for being "annoying"

    please tell me you are joking.

    #1 why do you care about a guy advertising in Luna? just put him on ignore if it really bothers you that much.

    #2 people disrupting events should be put in jail until the morning, not banned.
     
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    sexual harassment is one thing, spamming woooo or being "annoying" is a totally different thing.

    punishment for sexual harassment should be blocked or banned account based on previous infractions. and spamming woooo and being annoying should land you in jail until morning.
     
  46. Why should the rest of use change our behavior when a Mythic rep asked someone to stop doing what they were doing? Why should other people be allowed to display anti-social behavior and get away with it? Why should anyone be allowed to intentionally ruin some other person's game?

    Lighten up - it's a game, Buttercup. If you don't like this game so much, go find one you do like.
     
  47. Dryzzid of Atlantic

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    Two thumbs up for this post.

    Act like a child, and your toys will get taken away from you.
     
  48. ingsmsico

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    that's not what I said and you know it. I said spamming in global chat should get you automatically booted from global chat for ~10 minutes. I said a person disrupting an event should be put in jail until morning. I said a person sexually harassing others should be blocked or banned based on previous infractions. I said if you are bothered by a person spamming at Luna selling items you should put that person on ignore.

    I don't see how anyone could disagree with this if they actually read it and think for 2 seconds about what I'm saying.
     
  49. Yalp

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    No. they are not banning accounts because someone spammed "woo" too many times.. but nice try.
     
  50. ingsmsico

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    why do I feel that no matter how many times I repeat myself, no one will listen. no one should be banned for spamming wooo. i don't care how many times. if it is an event you should be put in jail, if it is in global chat the system should boot you from the chat, and if it is in-game and not an event anyone that is bothered can put the person on ignore.

    read each point carefully then explain to me why you disagree with my approach.
     
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