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Speedhacks and You.

Discussion in 'UO Spiels N Rants' started by Alezi, May 7, 2009.

  1. Alezi

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    Can you please start handing out friggin' bans for speedhacking?

    Can you make them legal so that everyone can use speedhacks? Maybe even post a link to a speedhack or make a speedhack of your own so that no one has the advantage of going 3x the normal running speed?
     
  2. TheScoundrelRico

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    Yeah, and let the people who report false claims for others speedhacking get banned too. Tattle tails who get their feelings hurt when someone elses connection is better than theirs have no place in the game...la
     
  3. Alezi

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    I get called a speedhacker pretty much every day because I seem to run so fast in game. Needless to say I don't use a speedhack. Then there's these fellows who run 2-3 times faster than me.

    It's getting pretty damn ridiculous. These said persons are one screen behind you and the next second they're right next to you. Once they're about to die they just warp out from your screen to two or three screens ahead of you. It's ****ing ********.

    I'm having a hard time choosing between two things: to download and use a speedhack or to just freeze my account until they start to read the legitimate reports and start banning people.

    I'm probably gonna go with the latter option, though.

    EDIT: Could some DEV please enlighten this situation? Are you even planning to do anything to prevent cheating?
     
  4. Splup

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    You are kidding right?

    Someone saying that there's no speedhack just better connections should take their head out of sand.

    Speedhackers are roarming rampart and the problem really is out of freaking hand. Something needs to be done.
     
  5. TheScoundrelRico

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    Please show me where I claimed there were no speedhackers. Please oh please oh please...la
     
  6. 4u2nv

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    i dont understand!! EA hasnt done anything to correct this for 10+ yrs, so you can drop your hopes, you have 3 options, a) get speedhack yourself, b) dont get speedhack and die more, c) quit the game

    :next:

    QUOTE=Alezi;1236870]Can you please start handing out friggin' bans for speedhacking?

    Can you make them legal so that everyone can use speedhacks? Maybe even post a link to a speedhack or make a speedhack of your own so that no one has the advantage of going 3x the normal running speed?[/QUOTE]
     
  7. Alezi

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    They could AT LEAST start handing out WARNINGS to speedhackers. After one warning -> permaban.

    The DEVs should hook up the best computer money can buy directly to the server running it in LAN. Then make a program which counts the amount of steps you can take in 1 second while running. Then make an adjustment to the client which throttles the running speed of a player if the player exceeds the amount of steps which is possible to take in 1 second.

    Another option is to give us a thumbs-up to use speedhacks so that everyone is running at the same speed creating the same situation if no one was running a speedhack.
     
  8. NO and NEVER to this part! Fix the problem, yes... but this would only make it worse.
     
  9. Viper09

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    Amen to that, lol!

    And no Splulp, no one here is denying speedhacking exists. Need to read posts a bit more thoroughly before jumping to conclusions.
     
  10. Tiny Dancer

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    There are a lot of people who do speedhack, especially in PvP, but keep this in mind, people who are hardcore into gaming and PvPing spend thousands of dollars on uber l33r computers, and all the accessories and have no need for a client modification that MAY make you faster. Really, if you are going to complain about people speed hacking you might as well complain about people who have dumped a ton of money into their gaming systems, are they cheating because they choose to spend their money which they work for on a game? I don't think so. There are lots of little tricks that you can do to make your system run better and hardcore pvpers know them and use them.

    Faster is better but honestly there are a lot worse cheats in Fel atm. I would much rather fight someone who was speed hacking than fight someone who had stump hacks, tile hacks and mods that allow them to run through para fields.

    I have been accused of speed hacking simply because I have a computer that is fairly new and run on cable. I am fast. That doesn't mean I cheat and the same can be said for a lot of pvper's. Not ALL but a lot.

    Sorry to get back on this but I think it would be more beneficial to fix the auto healing scripts, stump hacks, tile mods, hacks that enable you to run through hard objects (fields), cheats that allow you to auto target from you journal, heal from your journal and cast spells while running all need to be looked at and fixed before they worry about the speed issue.
     
  11. Arch Magus

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    what, no way?
    seriously?
    :bored:
     
  12. Laf

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    Lol. Adorable.

    Ok Yes! There are speedhacks!
    But 90% of these lil schoolgirl complaints of speedhacks is just YOUR CRAPPY GEAR OR CONNECTION.

    10% are legit.

    I get called speedhack by about 50 people a DAY.
    And while doing so.. there are* people running 3-4xs my speed.

    Just cuz Im faster doesnt make me a speedhack!
    Just finished talking about this in the Factions threade.

    UPGRADE. if you still slow. MOVE! Find a better spot.
    Dont move into a corner of an apartment with 3 roomates On a wireless router, next to a friggen internet cafe!. dont move to the 5000 block. with 30 Bussinesses and their 300 computers.
    If you cant take the steps to ensure the BETTER! OR BEST! connection.
    SIT DOWN AND STFU. PERIOD.

    ZERO! SYMPATHY FOR YOU PATHETIC CONNECTION CRYIN BANSHEES. SIT THE ** DOWN.
     
  13. Laf

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    /love


    Here's a fact. I ride around in a 94 Ford hatchback escort. It has 3 rims on it. The read wiper doesnt work. The front right headlight rattles. Theres no horn. 6 cracks in the windshielf.. and I run a simple m17aw laptop with cable/opts, w/2 24 inch monitors, and one 32 inch. Looks like this xXx.
    Next time you decide to buy a new system for your ride at $2800..So you can rattle mainstreet 3xs a week.. Think about upgrading your gear that you spend MOST of your free time on. You can jiggle your gull necks all you want about this. The fact remains that you are all too lazy, or stupid to do the simplest most logical thing. UPGRADE. 2nd to that. MOVE TO A BETTER LOCATION.
     
  14. Arch Magus

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    wtf are you talking about?

    is this directed at me? LOL:loser:
     
  15. Arch Magus

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    Oh yeah. People are going to move to get a better connection for UO. :loser:

    and what's a "read wiper"?
     
  16. Laf

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    Most of them wont. they would rather sit and cry like 9 year olds for six months on end, as they spend an extra 400$ on their monthly food bill for pop and chips.

    and a "read wiper" is a typo. Notice the "R" and the "T" are side by side.

    Great responce sofa king.
     
  17. Arch Magus

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    I gotta quote this again because it's hilarious/sad to hear you rant.
    WTF are you, stupid?

    The "fact" doesn't "remain". Your average person is not always too lazy or too stupid to upgrade their comp and connection. Every heard of money?

    This fact does remain, though: You need a life!:loser:
     
  18. Arch Magus

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    It's spelled response.

    I guess the 's' and 'c' are side by side too huh?
     
  19. Laf

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    Gratz you can spell bettar dan meeee. Now can you manage to fix your crappy system so we wont have to hear or read your pathetic boo hoo spiels about speedhacks or laggy connections? do you slow down considerably when running behind houses with circ trans on? (try a video card?)
     
  20. Arch Magus

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    Yes I can spell better, type better, organize my thoughts better, etc etc.
    I'm probably more mature and smarter than you, it's ok.

    I've never complained about lag or cheaters. My computer is super nice also. I have no problem killing people solo without speeder xp.

    I don't run with circle of trans on....lol


    Almost forgot. BOO HOO I'M CRYING WAHHHHH:loser:
     
  21. Laf

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    Dont go too far son. Theres a huge difference of knowledge and intelligence.
    The point of all this is not to have brain wars with you, or to see who has the larger pecker.
    Its a simple very direct point. If your not willing to take the steps to have a BETTER, or BEST connection. Than SIT DOWN AND STFU. Ive been reading this speedhack crybaby BS for 9 years now. And half the time its the SAME FKN PEOPLE!!!.
    Like I said, when you go to grab those extra 3 boxes of chips, and 2 crates of Pepsi. STOP. Throw it in a jar labeled UPGRADE-JUNK!. Etc.
    If your computer is better than the presidents, MOVE. Find a better location, IF YOU CANT DO THAT. SIT DOWN... !! Period.

    Ive never had a problem taking out people 3-5xs my speed, or equal to my speed.. Thats not because I try to chase them in a straight line for 40 screens. Or Play with them on open field. I cut them off, judge where they would run. Etc. Throw Crates between houses, Use of fields. etc. ITS NOT HARD. common sense.

    If your living with mom and dad. or grandmother.
    ask for an allowence.
    cut your neighbors lawn.
    trun off incoming names, snow affect, circ trans, target system etc.

    do something other than crying your fkin arses off daily for 22 months on end. enough.
     
  22. Laf

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    Or vent!! Get it all out! !! Leave a 3 page spiel!
    USE CAPS!!! AND REPEATE YOURSELF 35 TIMES!!!
    AND USE PATHETIC EMOTES AND TXT SMILIES LIKE =...[
    LET EVERY LAST DROP OF TEAR FALL DOWN YOUR FACE, AND SNOT RUN DOWN YOUR LIPS AND CHIN AND LET IT ALLLLLL OOOOUTT!
    THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. THE FULL MONTY.
    LET US HAVE IT!!!!


    ... and be done with it.
    .. So the world can continue revolving..
    .. we can all go on with our lives.

    /ADMIT YOUR FAILURE ONCE AND FOR ALL AND LAY DOWN AND DIE. LOL.
     
  23. SAVATAGE

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    Just wait till everyone gets the new one thats out now...... it makes the old ones seem like they dont work....
     
  24. Arch Magus

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    I have the larger pecker.:D
    /endthread
     
  25. Laf

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    prolly cuz your constantly tuggin on it infront of the computer.

    /agreed X.v
     
  26. :owned:
     
  27. Arch Magus

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    T-T
     
  28. LordNoximos

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    Whatever, cheater.
     
  29. LordNoximos

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    But throwing crates between houses IS illegal! :eek:
     
  30. Arch Magus

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    Is it really?:blushing:
     
  31. Lynk

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    Anyone who says speedhacking doesn't make a difference is either a ****ing moron, cheats themselves and is trying to justify it, or is just ignorant to their surroundings.

    I run in a straight line, 3 of these speedhacking d-bags all chasing me with heavy xbows moving shotting me for 30-40 + hit spell.

    Add onto that the fact that I have to run around grave stones and certain twigs where as they can run through them (stfu Draxous these are two separate cheats, I know you're simple).

    I can't escape and live unless I'm on my parry mage to tele or a stealther to smoke bomb.
     
  32. Alezi

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  33. Deathy56

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    To all the people who get falsely accused of speedhacking,

    I know some people who have been falsely accused of speed hacking. I have been on a few occasions...very few...like 2. When they do it most of the time it seems like sour grapes. However, that's not what this thread is about. It's not about being falsely accused. It's about people who actually do speedhack. If UO starts doing something and banning or warning these people, then speedhacking (and other hacking) will be greatly reduced. This means, not only fair play, but also people will stop accusing you of speed hacking. If they don't stop, you can complain to UO about verbal harrassment and those whiners will be the ones in trouble. For those of you with good systems and connections (like me), stopping hackers will give us more of an advantage since the hackers won't be cheating us. Overall, while no one likes to be falsely accused, I think we can all (except for those f*&$ing A%#hole Qu&@*#^@*er (yes...I made up a new swear for these people) agree that hacking should be enforced by UO and a movement needs to be started toward that end.

    Sincerely,
    Plague
     
  34. Busters

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    Well, considering that nothing has been done for many many years about speed hacking, you might as well realize that nothing will be done about it, no matter how much people post of comment about it. Also now you have people that modify their client to change pretty much every animation to what they want for faster play, how do u suppose that will be stopped? Yes it all needs to be taken care of, but the chances are that it will only get worse, just like any game, people find new ways to do something to help them win and they will do it, tis a fact of life.
     
  35. Laf

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    you run in a straight line.... fail.
    lets put it this way, i punch an officer, i run through 13 yards, 4 alleys, 5 stores, 3 garages, 2 parks, and 2 bus terminals... and IM FREEEEEEEEE!
    YOU' : run through 6 street corners, and ,... FAIL.

    meaning. DONT RUN IN A STRAIGHT LINE MORON! RUN UNTIL YOUR 1-2 STEPS AWAY, VEEEEEEEEER SOUTH, AND GAIN 2 STEPS, CHUG A HEAL, [if ur not a pot user.... FAIL], RUN 1-3 STEPS, veeeeeeeeeeeeeeer east!!!, runnnnnnn more, VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR NORTH... cmon,. you get it, fkn ******... cmon now... huh? ziggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg zagggggggggggggggggggggggggg! win, run down the alley with 3 cruisers laughing at you? FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAILLLLLLLLLLLL!
     
  36. you have WWWAAAYYYY too much time on your hands :wall:
     
  37. Laf

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    /FAIL ALSO =[
     
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  39. Laf

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    Do you not understand how the stump thing works?
    Its on the player's end. They choose the TREE graffic to a stump. Or To a PINK (fairies!!!!!) tile... or to a pumpkin. Or whatever.. It doesnt change the fact that ITS THERE!. They can still NOT RUN THROUGH IT. It just makes it easier for the morons to run around the clutter and their crappy computers dont lag over.

    In my opinion if you cant figure out how to run around a 2 Inch tree, and need to change it to a 2 cm tile... JUST QUIT. ok?
     
  40. Lynk

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    It definitely provides an advantage. There is no foliage blocking their sight to other objects that may block them.

    Not only that, but the tool people use to do this also provides an option to make certain objects "passable". This includes Gravestones, Candelabras, wooden boxes, hay stacks, soulstones, crates, etc, etc.

    The biggest advantage to field PvP is the grave stones. I can be chasing a speeder down, and have them within 1 hit of death but they run to the right of a tree and they go through the grave stone where I get blocked, giving them a 3 tile advantage at the least.
     
  41. Dodger

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    I think me and about 6 other people saw a speedhacker who was dragging an orc brute about twice as fast as anyone of us where running, we know the red that does this and usually we can outrun him, he killed all of us and ghost where all running about "report him for speedhacking". Its funny because he was from com so if they had more people from the guild on they wouldnt have to speedhack anyway just come and raid at the champ, like they always do, kill everyone and steal everything.
     
  42. Gladius

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    Just imagine a speed hacked Gargoyle on your tail eh?
     
  43. Cloak&Dagger

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    Why is this any different that speed hacking on horseback or speed hacking ninja? they won't be any faster than any other mounted player, and they have a delay before they can take flight, I believe it should be equal to the ethy timer.


    Alezi, making the speed hacks legal wont solve the problem, making ALL speed hacking might "fix" the problem, if everyone used it of course. but just adding an approved speed hack wouldn't work as people can still go faster than that.
     
  44. CroMag1980

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    What's the rationale for stopping speedhack?

    I mean put together a business case to justify the work involved in person-hours and how it benefits subscriptions?

    Fix client side jiggery-pokery and most players are pleased to hear so but don't care much either way. A small hardcore who have a bunch of accounts to run various automated processes move (and find a way to cheat) somewhere else in another game or get a job/go outside etc.

    Those inbetween are delighted and will continue to pvp and not freeze their accounts. A few might return when they hear it's all sorted.

    Not a hugely convincing case. Doing stuff "because it's the right thing to do" is not the capitalist way. Made bed lie in it etc.
     
  45. Nystul

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    I :heart: my speedhack.
     
  46. *sigh*

    Im sorry my speedhack is faster than yours.

    Its called KR...NOT 2D ...ie:1997 software!!! :thumbsup:
     
  47. Setanta

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    Are you kidding? EA likes speed hackers. Even the NPC's do it at times. I've gone to sell some wares to NPC shop keepers and they have outrun my horse.
     
  48. Jesusislord

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    I like the "my comp is better than yours" thing. The 2D client is umm.. 12 years old almost.

    I guess if I want to do better at Doom 1, I should buy a 10,000 dollar computer, and maybe if I press forward, I'll jump right to the last boss?

    Speedhack is real.

    Under normal circumstances, you can only move so fast. As in any other game, your movement rate is at a set pace.

    And.. considering I see people talking about which ones to use openly on my server, then certain people coming back the next day in awe of how fast someone is now, as opposed to before.. well.. blah blah blah..
     
  49. Exactly, well said!
     
  50. Blesh

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    there ya go Reek-oh. :)