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Speeding hacking is alive and well still...

Discussion in 'UHall' started by silent, Mar 28, 2013.

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  1. silent

    silent Lore Master
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    I'm pinging in the 20s running a high end system. I'm running on foot from Yew to Justice on GL and this guy literally blows past me on foot like i'm standing still. I was thinking about toying with PVP again and this pretty much convinced me not too bother.
     
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  2. legendsguy

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    Yeah... I guess I'll never understand things like that. I understand wanting to use every advantage available, but at a certain point you probably should just admit to yourself that you're not a very good PvPer if you have to use these tricks.
     
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  3. lucitus

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    EC or 2d?
     
  4. silent

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    I'm in the EC no mods. No idea what flash was using other than a speed hack.
     
  5. BeaIank

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    Silly question. Did he look like he was naked when he blasted past you?
    If so, EC couldn't finish loading all the entity data from the server and showed you the barest form of the entity.
    Please note that a mount is also part of that entity data, and thus wasn't rendered.

    If this is the case, that guy was mounted, and thus had mounted speed.
    I've had it happen a few times to me.
     
  6. silent

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    Hmmm ya he was butt neked... the animation looked like he was running though, if he was mounted his legs wouldn't be moving right? Even if the mount wasn't displayed?
     
  7. BeaIank

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    Nope, he is in movement, so the engine plays the running animation on this case, since it doesn't know it is mounted.
     
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  8. Acid Rain

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    If hes pinging 20s there is no reason why the server wouldn't be able to load server data.

    Speeder usage is rampant in this game & UO/EA has no plans to change that.
    If your looking for pvp ur best bet is..... find another game.
    BF3 and soon BF4 is my pvp release, certainly not UO.
     
  9. Viper09

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    Regardless of good ping, it still happens.
     
  10. Acid Rain

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    I can only speak from my experience and Ive never seen this happen unless ur connection is spotty.
     
  11. SlobberKnocker

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    naked men runnig at yew gate.... oh my.
     
  12. Viper09

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    There can be the occasional hic-up. But then again, I've only had this happen to me when I've been on the EC.
     
  13. BeaIank

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    Yup, it only happens on the EC. It is also not that common.
     
  14. MalagAste

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    Often what your seeing is a hic-up...... the EC does do this from time to time. But really I agree if you are "really" pinging 20 that shouldn't happen..... ever.
     
  15. Petra Fyde

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    This is NOT speed hacking. I've seen it happen. It's weird, you're in a party with someone who's fully dressed and riding an ethy, you go off screen from them and when they re-appear they seem to be in their underwear and running like Usain Bolt.
    This is nice, sedate, pvm ladies and gents. They wouldn't have any use for a speedhack.
     
  16. budman23

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    O please as if they havent known about speed hacking for over 10 years now.
    They wont do anything, and then they ask why they cant get new players LOL!
    I mean who exactly wants to step into a new game having to download a bunch of 3rd party programs to compete?
    People who have lived in tram their entire entire existence have no clue, and their opinion is worthless.
    Keep ignoring it though, just another fine example of the player you COULD of had, because he wont last as he looks around a little closer.
    O and i bet they will say scripting isnt a problem next ROFL!
     
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    I am guessing it was Wile E Coyote lookng for the Road Runner.
     
  18. kelmo

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    Budman23... No one "lives in tram their entire existence". This is a game. They may play the game in the Trammel facet. The opinion of any player is as valid as yours. I assure you.

    The use of speed hacks is a way over blown excuse many use. Hell, I have been accused of speed hacking at a ping of 80 or so. There are many other reasons a glitch can occur making it seem you are being out ran. many PvPers have told me that speed hacks really do not help and often hinder the player.

    At any rate... let's tone down harsh language.
     
  19. Storm

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    I have a ping of 150 and i think you all are speed hacking!
     
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  20. NuSair

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    Yes, speed hacking is alive and well. Just the week before last, I was listening to several pvp'ers saying yes they speed hack, but only because everyone else does it. Which caused me to laugh (have to love how people justify their actions).
     
  21. GalenKnighthawke

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    Cheating of all sorts and false accusations of it are both alive and well.

    They both hurt the game.

    -Galen's player
     
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  22. budman23

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    False accusations? LOL
    When you make comments like this the whole pvp community laughs at you.

    Allow me to post a few videos where no Mythic employee can explain the speed of the user and i will.
    They will also get deleted immediately.
    No one cares to fix it, they think it doesnt effect the game, how wrong they are.

    I think you forget i come from one of those guilds of over 100 players, i know whos using what.
     
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  23. Varrius

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    Isn't a players speed capped server side? How can someone hack into their server to make them run past cap?
     
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    And Cal's spreadsheet my friend, is blowing in the wind.
    Cal's spreadsheet is blowing in the wind.
     
  25. GalenKnighthawke

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    Your post bears little obvious relationship to the post you replied to.

    I specifically admitted cheating occurs. False accusations of cheating, however, also occur. I know this because I have been, with a rather bad ping and no speed-hack, accused of speed-hacking.

    -Galen's player
     
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    Some dispute the effectiveness of the cap.

    -Galen's player
     
  27. NuSair

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    In theory, let's assume you are correct.

    Even if it is capped server side, the cap has to be set to what the fastest a player can be set to move (ninjitsu wolf form). So, even if it is capped, players in theory using a speed hack could move up to that speed not in wolf form.

    There are other ways as well, in theory.
     
  28. NuSair

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    I'd argue there is no cap for as much good as the supposed one does.
     
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  29. budman23

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    When a newbie complains someone is cheating and everyone looks the other way we can say hes silly.
    When people over 10 years playing say it and everyone looks the other way, you dont really care to fix it.
    When you leave obvious probems in the game without caring to fix them you cant complain when others laugh at the idea of playing it.
    Most pvpers have stepped into other games even if they play Ultima they do NOT NOT NOT have these problems, meaning ultima ALONE has this problem, and if this is the case it deserves to be made fun of.
     
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    to my understanding this is correct, although if someone was on a slow connection like mine a speed hack would be able to increase the speed up to server cap.. as for how you do other things in the game that may be a different story.
     
  31. Varrius

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    but no forms are faster than other forms or not being in a form... unless you are talking about a form that doesnt permit running.
     
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    Look out! We got a bad ass over here
     
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    I remember when i first switched to the EC because it lagged me less. Im on the west coast playing on Atlantic and people say im speed hacking. Not my fault the EC doesn't have tombstones. On CC (which i still love and think looks better) I skip around the town but on the EC im smooth, that makes no sense to me.
     
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    See it all the time in the EC and my connection is NOT spotty. Ping in the 20's with no appreciable lag at any time of day. This happens when partied with guild members and they get left behind running or go offscreen and often on ships sailing.
     
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    I do not play in the EC, only the classic client. Once the comment was made of this happening in the
    EC I stopped replying. I can not intelligently speak on a topic of which I have no experience.

    I would tend to believe Petra and several others who have offered similar explanations.
     
  36. Nexus

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    shhh... the youngin's don't know who those two are... let us older folks keep something just to ourselves.
     
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    Since the observed incident has reliably proven to have not been a case of speed hacking I think we can consider this thread resolved.
     
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