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Spellweaving is flagging you Gray when you Release pixies.

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Dan123The123Man, Aug 30, 2011.

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  1. Dan123The123Man

    Dan123The123Man Lore Master
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    Ok, i'm having some serious issues... Since I cannot mass dispel my pixies I am having to release them by there name individually because there is not a command to release all summons at once. So this is my macro that I have in UOAssist with "Pause 50" after each name and release command.

    Klian release
    Klistra release
    Laeri release
    Ciline release
    Shiale release
    Ourie release
    Piepe release
    Liera release
    Sili release
    Sefi release
    Cynthe release
    Nedra release
    Hali release
    Jiki release
    Piku release
    Rael release
    Zanne release
    Zut release
    Sini release
    Os release
    Wienne release
    Xian release
    Ybri release
    Calee release
    Shendri release
    Shri release

    So after for example the first one "Klian release" I would have "Pause 50" and so on. This way it gives the macro enough time, or we assume it would give it enough time to get off all the names. Sadly I can summon about 4 pixies and say this macro and still have 1 pixie standing there. When I hit the macro a second time or third time it will see what i've said.

    What i'm saying is, I can have the pixies name in that list there and it like ignore the release command whenever I hit that macro. Those are all the possible Pixie names when you use the Summon Fey spell.

    Another problem I have been experiencing for a LONG time is when you left click and choose release on your pixie, or say the name like I have above and say release. You can go gray for no apparent reason. I have tested this in the last five minutes and have flagged twice. I summon 4 pixies and say that macro while standing still, not doing anything else. There is nothing else bound to the key that I am using.


    So in short, my problems are these:

    1. Pixies don't seem to listen to the command when I say there name and Release, sometimes I have to say it twice or three times. Ofcourse this could be my macro slipping up and skipping over there name, but I have put a Pause 50 after each name and it still seems to pass there name. This is another reason why I have requested in the past to have a command to release these summons. You cannot say there name on one line and then release at the end, it would only release the first name you typed on the line. Therefore your' macro has to be that long and using UOAssist it appears to skip over pixies names sometimes and I don't know if i'd have better luck making this macro in the UO Options or not.


    2. When I go to release pixies by saying thre name or clicking and then releasing them. It flags you gray. When you mass dispel that is another story, you will not go gray then. But when you say there name and release it can flag you gray for no apparent reason. This flagging gray is not just happening to me, my friend who is also a spellweaver has in fact experienced the same problem. He didn't know how he flagged gray either from releasing his pixie



    UPDATE:


    I Have given the pixie a command to release and it HAS Ignored it.. Picture is below for proof. Shri is the last name on my macro for releasing and the pixie named Shri, it said that it has decided to go off or better yet it said it was released and it was not. The screenshot below is proof.


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    UPDATE:

    For those that want to see another picture as proof, here you are. I told the pixie to release and it is NOT listening, and there is a chance to flag gray as well... Can you guys take a look at this and figure out what the problem is.

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  2. Kas Althume

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    I'm pretty sure they do listen but the spam protection is stopping your command. I know when i say to much via a macro i get a message from the 2D client telling me that my command has been blocked.
     
  3. Dan123The123Man

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    It clearly shows in the screenshot that I said the pixies name and to Release, the pixie did not release. No matter how long of a pause I put after saying each pixies name and release in UOAssist. There are times when it will leave a pixie stranded for no reason. I could be saying that entire macro as slow as possible and it will still leave one behind. Something is definitely wrong there. And this doesn't even explain why I am going gray for no reason what-so-ever from telling the pixie to release.

    EDIT: I updated the originally post above with a SECOND screenshot, the pixie did NOT listen again.


    for any NON mage class that uses spellweaving
    they cannot dispel them or use mass dispel
    so they have to say there name and release, or left click and choose release... I have flagged gray doing that
    for no reason either.
    I stood still and did it, people had to tell me that I was gray because I didnt even know


    sorry that little message above I just copied straight from an ICQ message lol. That's what happened though. Hell even if your a mage though, regardless of class.. When you tell them to release you can go gray, not ALL the time but SOMETIMES. For no reason either. This happens to me all the time and I just wish something would be done about both these problems here.
     
  4. WildWobble

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    hmm why would you need to release them i just get mine killed! but if your right ack bad! hope its fixed soon.
     
  5. Dan123The123Man

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    I release them when i'm chasing someone down and can't dispel them myself... There's not always something in the area that you can tell them to kill so they die, sometimes I have to release them by saying there name and release. I shouldn't have to worry about flagging gray when releasing or wondering if they are going to obey my release command. With a Pause 50 after telling each pixie to release, I don't get that Spam message filter thing in the bottom left side of my screen (the one you would get if you were spamming). In the screenshot above it even shows that the command was given and the pixie did not obey.
     
  6. Katrena

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    Hi,

    I just tried this with my Spellweaver. I used both context menu and verbal command to release and it work correctly without being flagged. I did this in Trammel and Fel and it worked everytime.

    Katrena
     
  7. Dan123The123Man

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    If anybody would like a free demonstration to prove to you that I am not lying about this. Feel free to hit me up on ICQ 103-086-263 and i'll show you in-game that my character will flag gray when I release the pixies. It's not difficult to reproduce. ICQ me and i'll show you that all i'm doing is saying there name and releasing them in Fel and it is flagging me, not EVERY time but the fact that it does it isn't right.
     
  8. Katrena

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    Hi,

    I was looking at you screen shot where is says that they are "better off without a master", and they are still in your screen shot. Do they instantly go poof when released, or do they stay around like a pet would when released, just wild? The ones I tested all went poof as soon as they were released.

    Katrena
     
  9. Dan123The123Man

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    Katrena, that's exactly what i'm trying to say. When you release a summon it's supposed to release and go "poof"... In the screenshot above; it says that it was released, but it did not release or go "poof" for that matter. It's like it ignored the release command or something. It said it was released but wasn't released, does that make sense? I can show you in the game, and you can check the journal to see for yourself. I'll show you exactly what I mean and also how it will flag you gray. I'm not sure why you are unable to produce this problem. I am able to produce it everytime I play my char with spellweaving. It won't even tell you when you flag gray either, so I have to hear about it from other players. Or watch them gank me as i'm standing there twidling my thumbs; thinking, that i'm safe.
     
  10. Katrena

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    Dan123The123Man,

    You will probably need to go through a process of elimination to determine just what is causing this problem. I would suggest just logging in fresh when you're not flagged, take a moongate to Fel, cast just one, then manually release it. If it goes poof, then cast another and use the context menu to release. If that one goes poof, then cast all 5 and use your script. If this works, then there may be something causing this from interaction with other players. If none of these methods release correctly, then your character might be bugged.

    If you can determine what works and what doesn't work, it might lead you to a solution. Have you looked to see if they are still listed as followers when this is happening? It might help if your friend with the same problem goes through this process of elimination with you to compare results.

    Katrena
     
  11. Dan123The123Man

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    They are still listed as followers when this happens... This has been happening for the last month if not longer (ever since i've had spellweaving on my char). Logging out does not do anything, it has nothing to do with my character. It is a bug with the spellweaving itself. I wish a dev or somebody would take a look at this thread and address it already, i'm tired of getting ganked because i'm flagging gray for no reason due to game mechanics acting up. I can flag gray whether I say the pixie name and release or use the context menu... At first I thought the reason was because I was using that context menu, and then I started experiencing it when I actually said there name and release. The only time I don't experience this is if you cast Mass Dispel on the pixies (in which you need to be a mage to do). ICQ me and i'll show you what i'm talking about, that way you can post on here that you have witnessed this for yourself.
     
  12. Katrena

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    Hi,

    It is obvious from your screen shots that you are experiencing this problem. I wonder if it would help to ask on the Spellcaster Forum. If it is a bug with Spellweaving, I would think that there would be a lot of people having this problem. This skill has been around for years and a problem this serious should have been noted by now.

    Katrena
     
  13. Flutter

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    What happens when you type the release in normally (not use a macro)?
     
  14. Dan123The123Man

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    Katrena, you don't seem to convinced that it's the spell and that it's not my character... ICQ me and we can get together in the game, i'll show you that it's not my character. I don't know why people haven't caught this years ago... I just know i'm not the only one that has experienced the problem, a friend of mine has experienced it. I haven't broadcasted it in the game and asked everyone if they experience it, no. When we noticed that my friend was gray, he didn't even know he went gray. It doesn't tell you when you go gray, you either have to check for yourself if your gray or someone has to tell you.

    I haven't typed in-game manually flutter, I can't type as fast as a macro can tell the pixie to release. If I type the name of each pixie myself and say release then they will probly release. But as you can see in the journal, even the macro said it... I shoudln't have to type out the pixies name and release everytime. The macro clearly said it in the journal just fine, the pixie didn't listen. Someone please god just ICQ me and i'll show you guys myself what i'm talking about... My number is 103-086-263, I just don't like having to repeat myself.
     
  15. Vyal

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    It's your karma. Improve your karma and the pixies will stop attacking you after you release them thus solving your problem.

    Actually if you tell your pixies to follow someone with negative karma into a guard zone and then release them you can sometimes guard smack people and then go loot them :)
     
  16. Viper09

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    I think I remember this bug from really early on. Pixies attack negative karma people. If you release a pixie for that brief moment before it goes poof it's wild and will thus act like a wild pixie, attacking anyone or anything with negative karma. I remember a few getting guard wacked at Yew gate when spellweaving was brought in because of this.
     
  17. Dan123The123Man

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    Ok, I can tell the both of you that it is most definatelly NOT my karma. I have chivalry on the character so I always keep my karma at 20,000 for max effectiveness of Chivalry. Also thre is still the problem of pixies not listening to commands. If anyone wants to see this for yourself then ICQ me, I know I have mentioned in the previous post that I will show anyone that wants to see for themselves. So far I have not gotten ONE ICQ though, trust me... I'm not making this up, if you want to see what i'm talking about; then ICQ me. Oh and when the pixies actually do listen to me when I release them they do not attack me, it just flags me gray sometimes and I don't know why... Still waiting on an update from Mesanna or somebody about this issue. I have told Mesanna that I would be glad to show her if she like. I just let her know so I have not heard back yet.


    @Viper09

    Your comment there would make sense if I wouldn't flag when it's just me on the screen and nobody else. With 20k karma I can flag even when it's just ME on the screen, the pixies are not attacking other things with negative karma when I release them. When I do get to release the pixies they just dissapear; they don't attack anything at all unless I tell them to, and I haven't.
     
  18. Katrena

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    Dan123The123Man,

    I have not contacted you because I don't use ICQ or any other IM. I'm on Chesapeake and it appears you're on Atlantic, so I would have to create a character to watch you. I know the problem is real, so I couldn't be of any more help just by watching you release them in person. I think a trial and error process of elimination between you and your friend is the best way to figure this problem out. My Spellweaver is on a stealther and I have very low karma, so I don't think positive karma of any level would cause the problem.

    Katrena
     
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    I have a paus of 100 and that works great.
     
  20. Viper09

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    Honestly though, you seem to be the only one having the problem. Think you really need to try and narrow it down if you want to pinpoint the problem and to help the devs replicate it before they can even find a problem to fix. Like everyone else so far I'm finding no problems with pixies.
     
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